Transferring data?

[otherclive]

Outlook, Thunderbird and most email clients run locally...they are not cloud based. Depending on the email protocol you use - POP or IMAP - your emails will be downloaded to your own machine in the case of POP, or left on the cloud server in the case of IMAP.

It's true though that even with POP the emails will reside in the cloud until you download them by running your email client. But that's not the same as cloud based email services.

(There may be an exception in some POP protocols where you can opt to not delete the emails after you've downloaded them but I don't see the point of that)

Even if you have two different machines with your email clients set to POP on each, you will split emails between whatever machine your currently running.

I’m certain that my Hotmail emails stay on the Hotmail servers even when I have downloaded them via Applemail. If I delete in AppleMail then they also delete from Hotmail. But even then Hotmail (web) can allow me to recover deleted emails. When I tried it once some 4000 ish emails appeared for me to sift through.

Confusing, or what?

 

[Sam Vimes]

Latest release of Thunderbird was Jan 2024.

Thunderbird — Release Notes (115.7.0)

www.thunderbird.net

 

[Sam Vimes]

I’m certain that my Hotmail emails stay on the Hotmail servers even when I have downloaded them via Applemail. If I delete in AppleMail then they also delete from Hotmail. But even then Hotmail (web) can allow me to recover deleted emails. When I tried it once some 4000 ish emails appeared for me to sift through.

Confusing, or what?

Hotmail is a service and not an email cleint. It's generally IMAP, so yes they'll stay on the server.

 

[Tobes]

So - completely left field option, and slightly orthogonal to the origional question, but a good way of bringing new life to an old machine. Abandon MS Windows and install a variant of Google ChromeOS - the one I use is FyDos. It's light weight (so runs on older hardware - I have it on a 2011 macbook air), has access to the Google office variants of word, excel etc, can use the play store applications and can use local storage. And it's all free. If your Dell is going to be formatted or binned, it's absolutely worth a go, just to see if it's any use to you.
https://fydeos.io

 

[Buckman]

So - completely left field option, and slightly orthogonal to the origional question, but a good way of bringing new life to an old machine. Abandon MS Windows and install a variant of Google ChromeOS - the one I use is FyDos. It's light weight (so runs on older hardware - I have it on a 2011 macbook air), has access to the Google office variants of word, excel etc, can use the play store applications and can use local storage. And it's all free. If your Dell is going to be formatted or binned, it's absolutely worth a go, just to see if it's any use to you.
https://fydeos.io

Thanks. It seems I need to load MS Outlook onto the older Asus laptop and then Thunderbird to be able to transfer emails to Thunderbird. I cannot see a way around it as Thunderbird will not recognise the stand alone 'pst' file.

I have downloaded all the Word / Excel documents etc onto the old Asus and now need to download pictures. I will be using Libre Office on the old Asus. I was thinking of trying Ubuntu, but I am so used to MS I probably will struggle with two OS on the same machine due to mindset not adapting?

Prior to adding the above I formatted the Asus so a clean drive to start with. It is still very slow to load. The specs for the Asus are;

Intel i5-4200 CPU @2.8ghz 2.79ghz with 8GB RAM

The Dell is; 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz 1.69 GHz with 16GB RAM.

 

[Tobes]

Thanks. It seems I need to load MS Outlook onto the older Asus laptop and then Thunderbird to be able to transfer emails to Thunderbird. I cannot see a way around it as Thunderbird will not recognise the stand alone 'pst' file.

I have downloaded all the Word / Excel documents etc onto the old Asus and now need to download pictures. I will be using Libre Office on the old Asus. I was thinking of trying Ubuntu, but I am so used to MS I probably will struggle with two OS on the same machine due to mindset not adapting?

Prior to adding the above I formatted the Asus so a clean drive to start with. It is still very slow to load. The specs for the Asus are;

Intel i5-4200 CPU @2.8ghz 2.79ghz with 8GB RAM

The Dell is; 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz 1.69 GHz with 16GB RAM.

Perhaps the easyest way to transfer email is to link thunderbird to Gmail using IMAP, and the same with outlook, then dump them all to gmail and pull then down again.

Ubuntu is interesting, but nothing like as intuitive as ChromeOS (IMHO).

My Macbook Air is i7-2677M @ 1.8G with just 4G of RAM.

Fydos should fly on your machines. The nice thing with it is you can run it from a thumbdrive, just to see how it works without having to change anything on the machine. If you dont like it, power off and remove and you are back to how it was. If you do, you can do a partitioned install for dual boot, or dedicate the machine to one OS.

 

[Buckman]

Perhaps the easyest way to transfer email is to link thunderbird to Gmail using IMAP, and the same with outlook, then dump them all to gmail and pull then down again.

Ubuntu is interesting, but nothing like as intuitive as ChromeOS (IMHO).

My Macbook Air is i7-2677M @ 1.8G with just 4G of RAM.

Fydos should fly on your machines. The nice thing with it is you can run it from a thumbdrive, just to see how it works without having to change anything on the machine. If you dont like it, power off and remove and you are back to how it was. If you do, you can do a partitioned install for dual boot, or dedicate the machine to one OS.

For some reason when sending out of Outlook 365 to a Gmail address the email bounces?

I have no idea about using IMAP as thought that was for businesses so have always used POP.

I think that installing and setting up Chrome FyDos will probably be beyond my capabilities. LOL!