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Hi All I have posted this one eslewhere and thought afterwards ... wrong place

So here we go while away on this wonderful weekend nice cold caravan put the heater on( First time away in this one )on electric not very warm at all unless you sit on top of it so I switched over to gas and couldnt stand the heat have I done something wrong on the elecrical side or could it be the onsite power supply ?

Regards StewartPs its on an Ace Supreme Twinstar 2004
 

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Stewart, I assume you have the Truma Ultraheat.

Had you adjusted the thermostat on the wall switch, and had you selected the right power setting?
 
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Hi Damian

Yep tried the setting on the wall 500 1000 and 2000 still the heater notthat good if I put the blow air air on I may as well leave the door open.

Thanks for coming back on thios

Regards Stewart
 

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Stewart, thanks for answering the post, but I am still unsure if you changed the setting on the inner dial of the wall switch to a high number.

If you had, and assuming that you heated the van via gas, then it is possible that the cavity in which the thermostat fits had warmed enough to shut down the electric heater.

I am also going to assume that you do not have a remote sensor fitted to the heater, in which case that may be the solution to your problem.
 
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Hi again Damian

I did set heater control to 1000 and tried adjusting the temp from there , I had it set in the end to nearly as high as it would go. AS regards to sensor in the heater Im sorry but you have lost me on this

Forgot to add we have only had this van about a month so its all different to our old Compass.

Thanks for keeping up with me.

Regards Stewart
 

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I am guessing that your switch and, therefore, the thermostat is located on the side of the wardrobe. This acts as a big heatsink and takes ages to cool down before the electric heating switches on again. The solution is a remote thermostat (preferably fitted to the gas thermostat on the front of the fire. These plug into the control box at the back of the fire. These can be obtained from most dealers for
 
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Thanks everbody for your input to this problem of minejust to recap the control for the heater gas and electric are just inside the entry door if I set it at 1000 heat does come from the heater leaving it as a convector for about an hour and then turn blown air on I very quickly get cold air.

Thta it in a nutshell Guys Thanks once again for al;l your help

Regards Stewart
 
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2004 van, this is pre upgraded control board for the ultraheat and pre fitting the temperature stat in a sensible place, either or both of these could be having an effect on your electric heating.

Apart from the stat not responding to temperature change as it should, a common problem with older control boards is lack of 2kw heating due to a faulty relay not switching it on.

Understanding the system might help determine if it's user error or a fault with the system, I wrote this as my thoughts on how blown air heating works;

Blown Air Heating

All but the smallest caravans are fitted with a gas fire rated at 3.5kw output and almost an equal number of vans now have mains electric heating rated at 2kw output and giving a total of 5.5kw. This heating is generally distributed around the van by the hot air being blown along ducting and hence the name.

It is often said this system of blowing the air around the van is not as good as without, or at least until the heater itself as got hot, well this is simply wrong

When you get to site the van is stone cold, not just the air inside but the vans whole fabric, that's the walls, furniture, cushions, everything. So when the fires switched on it's got a big job to do, it will only take a few minutes to warm the air but this heat will be absorbed by the fabric just as quickly. Depending then on how cold it all starts will determine how long this process takes and the whole van comes up to a comfortable temperature.

1), So how do you get it there as quickly as possible? there is only so much heat available from the gas fire and or the electric, so as both can be used together this is the best thing to do. In this situation though the fire may well overheat, it is therefore essential to use the fan to move that heat quickly.

2), While this process goes on the air returning too the heater will be slightly cooler than the overall temperature of the van which at the beginning will feel to 'us' somewhat colder still. However the heaters themselves get to full temperature in under 5 minutes, blown air on or no.

3), Without the fan, hot air from the heaters will rise straight to the roof where there are one or two roof lights with fixed ventilation for it to go straight out. The hot air that does escape will be instantly replaced by outside stone cold air coming in through floor level ventilation.

3 and a half), With blown air on, hot air from the heater is forced down to floor level where most of the major fabric is, this then can now absorb the heat more quickly and also slows down heat wasted through ventilation as some of this blown air is used to heat up what cold air does come in.

So as much heat as possible and blown air straight away is best, but it must be remembered to give it enough time to heat everything to a desired temperature before turning back the heating too much.

At some point the fire will get on top of the job and can be turned down, if though you do this to quickly and the fabric is still absorbing a lot of heat, then the overall temperature will drop to low as the heater is unable to replace heat fast enough, the van will always then feel 'draughty' In this case it's no good turning up the temperature setting as the heaters already on, you need to increase the total heat output.

Once though an equilibrium point is reached and the van is fully warm, all the heater needs to do is heat air coming in through normal ventilation and quite low heat settings can often maintain a constant temperature

If now a door is opened, a rush of cold air is quickly warmed by taking heat from the fabric which in turn gives the heater chance to replenish that heat loss without you probably noticing for more than a few moments.

With that in mind, if you do feel a slight dropping off of the overall temperature, it is wise to turn the heating up slightly straight away rather than letting the van cool off to far and your left in the cold waiting for it to heat up again.
 
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Thanks Gary I am trying to take all that in .

It does make sense I have to say.

I have to say we were away on the coldest of nights of the Easter Break so I guess the heater had got plenty of hard work to do Regards Stewart
 
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hi stewart am in Daventry also,have bought the bits to make aa remote sensor for me if you need one let me know and you can have it at cost had to buy 5 thermisters to get one

Mods can give you me email if you want it
 
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it took me ages to get on top of the truma heating so don't despair. This is what i found works:

Switch the power input to 2000 watts, assuming you are on a mains hookup of at least 10 amps.

Turn the thermostat to 7 or above- the seven lines up with the 2000.

Dont touch the blown air until the heat exchanger is hot and you can feel heat convecting. Use the blown air on automatic about 3 or 4.

If it's cold outside, lower than say 10 the electric will probably not keep the van hot even on 2000. To get the van hot quickly use both gas and electric.

Most British vans are category 2 insulation which means that on gas the van should be 20 above outside. So on electric which is 4/7 the power of the gas you mightn't get it warm enough. I find in a 2006 senator indiana that a quick burst on gas even in the coldest weather keeps teh van warm once it has warmed up.
 
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it took me ages to get on top of the truma heating so don't despair. This is what i found works:

Switch the power input to 2000 watts, assuming you are on a mains hookup of at least 10 amps.

Turn the thermostat to 7 or above- the seven lines up with the 2000.

Dont touch the blown air until the heat exchanger is hot and you can feel heat convecting. Use the blown air on automatic about 3 or 4.

If it's cold outside, lower than say 10 the electric will probably not keep the van hot even on 2000. To get the van hot quickly use both gas and electric.

Most British vans are category 2 insulation which means that on gas the van should be 20 above outside. So on electric which is 4/7 the power of the gas you mightn't get it warm enough. I find in a 2006 senator indiana that a quick burst on gas even in the coldest weather keeps teh van warm once it has warmed up.
Thank you al for your comments on this one I will be off again a week on Saturday so I shall try all the recommendations then

KIndest Regards Stewart
 

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