Lutz, I like my outfit to sit as level as possible and for me 2" at ball height is a big difference if van is nose high.
I think the thread has gone a bit awry.
We tow with a small single axle - never felt any need for a twin axle.
Only thing I can think about is the manouverability of these vans, its tricky for us to store our caravan on our drive unless we take it off the car and move the van by hand to position it on the drive.
in my opinion, twin axles just don't give that option as the scrub from the 4 wheels can just be too much to do on your own.
I note the comment from Steve that "The only minor draw back is manual manouvering, but even then I can move our van single handed with the aid of my motor mover."
You still can't move it single-handedly WITHOUT the mover then?
It's all a matter of personal choice I suppose - as long as they are loaded correctly and towed by a suitably matched towcar ( i agree that the Laguna probably isn't a safe bet) then who's business is it anyway??
I do think that people should be able to reverse any outfit whether twin axle or not - either practice in a quiet place or go on one of the Caravan Club (or similar) courses.
rambling over - carry on
We tow with a small single axle - never felt any need for a twin axle.
Only thing I can think about is the manouverability of these vans, its tricky for us to store our caravan on our drive unless we take it off the car and move the van by hand to position it on the drive.
in my opinion, twin axles just don't give that option as the scrub from the 4 wheels can just be too much to do on your own.
I note the comment from Steve that "The only minor draw back is manual manouvering, but even then I can move our van single handed with the aid of my motor mover."
You still can't move it single-handedly WITHOUT the mover then?
It's all a matter of personal choice I suppose - as long as they are loaded correctly and towed by a suitably matched towcar ( i agree that the Laguna probably isn't a safe bet) then who's business is it anyway??
I do think that people should be able to reverse any outfit whether twin axle or not - either practice in a quiet place or go on one of the Caravan Club (or similar) courses.
rambling over - carry on
I have a 1998 laguna 2 Ltr estate with a gross train permissable of 2945Kgs.
The caravan in question is a 1982 Link 575 which has a gross weight permissable of just 1360 Kgs.
The Laguna is rated as able to tow 1350 Kgs (OEM figures)
Yes, I do tow at 100% capacity for the car. On my first journey of the season I go to our local seed merchant at the end of our road and weigh the outfit in a ready to go state, including the two labradors in the boot and me plus the family in the car, as per the way the dept of transprot would do if I were stopped on route. So far we have not gone past 2900 Kgs, and that was with a full fuel tank and 15Kgs of dog food.
Had low speed rapid deflation with medium sized single axle van, never again thanks. I'll stick with twin axle.
One flat on a singl is 50% of the rolling system. chances of 50% on a TA are somewhat limited.
Simple science proves that TA is more stable than SA.
I am probably doing something wrong but I have towed all around Europe and Britain with TA and never found need for a motor mover. I just reverse the thing into spaces and I don't think that I am even that briliant at reversing the rig. I send the wife to the camp shop whilst I park the van!
Remove the main line of concern and you will find you can park the thing much easier on your own.
And I advise lady drivers to do the same with their male partners!
If you are happy with what you tow, fine. But you are deluded if you think Single Axle is as safe and Stable as a Twin Axle van when they are a loaded correctly.
Why do you think most commercial trailers are twin axle?(it is not just for the weight they carry)
I also tow a TA car trailer and guess that most commercial drivers that pull trailers would fall about laughing at the idea that a SA is as safe and stable as a TA.
Try towing a single axle race car trailer and then try the same car on a twin and then try convincing yourself that a SA is as good as a TA
One flat on a singl is 50% of the rolling system. chances of 50% on a TA are somewhat limited.
Simple science proves that TA is more stable than SA.
I am probably doing something wrong but I have towed all around Europe and Britain with TA and never found need for a motor mover. I just reverse the thing into spaces and I don't think that I am even that briliant at reversing the rig. I send the wife to the camp shop whilst I park the van!
Remove the main line of concern and you will find you can park the thing much easier on your own.
And I advise lady drivers to do the same with their male partners!
If you are happy with what you tow, fine. But you are deluded if you think Single Axle is as safe and Stable as a Twin Axle van when they are a loaded correctly.
Why do you think most commercial trailers are twin axle?(it is not just for the weight they carry)
I also tow a TA car trailer and guess that most commercial drivers that pull trailers would fall about laughing at the idea that a SA is as safe and stable as a TA.
Try towing a single axle race car trailer and then try the same car on a twin and then try convincing yourself that a SA is as good as a TA
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