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LOL! - fancy getting my r's i the wrong place.Woops - posted in comments by mistake
Whatever! - you just protest too much - your reaction to my post portrays the same attitude.
Even considering killing a dog in such circumstances is perposterous.
So any dog that nips your dog winds up dead!
Very mature!
Here we go again, more abuse from CliveV
Reply to Ian re dangerous dogs. We have an 8 year old Doberman who has been bought up to be a 'pet' and is one of the most loveable, friendly dogs you could meet and loves to met strangers and get her ears tickled. Yes I admit we keep her on a lead and definately keep her away from children as even being as timid as she is you never know what reaction ANY dog will have. Better save than sorry. We ourselves dislike Yorkies and Westies and their never ending yapping. In fact our dog hates these as well as one bit her on the nose for no reason. As I said ' you never know'!!!
We have a 7 year old German Shepherd, and she's really soft to us but to be honest i dont want her to be like that with everyone. When someone is trying to get in my back gate i want them to know they've made a big mistake.
But on the other hand i never put her in a position to injure anyone's children or another person, when we go away we mostly go to adult only site's as there usually quiter, but if we go to a family site its always out of the school holidays.
With other dogs she's great off the lead but not on it, but if i see another dog off the lead and shes off the lead i let her carry on and mostly she takes no notice.
If i see children she goes straight on the lead i take no chances i love my dog and i dont want to have her put down for biting a child .
But on the other hand i never put her in a position to injure anyone's children or another person, when we go away we mostly go to adult only site's as there usually quiter, but if we go to a family site its always out of the school holidays.
With other dogs she's great off the lead but not on it, but if i see another dog off the lead and shes off the lead i let her carry on and mostly she takes no notice.
If i see children she goes straight on the lead i take no chances i love my dog and i dont want to have her put down for biting a child .
ian, what colour was the pit bull?.
jo-anne
jo-anne
Pleased that I can't get involved in this one,not being a dog lover. IMHO dogs are machines that just turn a ton of food into something that needs to be picked up in Parks and on Pavements etc.And a lot of owners don't mind, if it's picked up by a childs or an adults shoes.
ps I think it's very childish to call for a forum member to be banned, because he has an outrageous point of view -)
I can't fall out with someone I have never met.
Cats forever thats what I say --------))))))
Val & Frank
Val & Frank
ps I think it's very childish to call for a forum member to be banned, because he has an outrageous point of view -)
I can't fall out with someone I have never met.
Cats forever thats what I say --------))))))
Val & Frank
Val & Frank
Wayne,
You have put your finger on it mate - it's all about responsibility. GSD's are naturally suspicious of strangers, it's in their nature and this is used to good effect in guarding and security work. They also make excellent familiy pets and are fiercly loyal as you and I both know, but undeniably, they do actually have a bad reputation.
It is not fair to them or residents to subject this breed or other "dangerous" breeds to the close proximity of other families in high season, I would not dream of taking my 4 year old GSD to a site where there would be many other dogs and young children.
In my opinion this is not a dog or owner issue iether, it is simply about responsible owners recognising that their dog needs careful management in public places.
You have put your finger on it mate - it's all about responsibility. GSD's are naturally suspicious of strangers, it's in their nature and this is used to good effect in guarding and security work. They also make excellent familiy pets and are fiercly loyal as you and I both know, but undeniably, they do actually have a bad reputation.
It is not fair to them or residents to subject this breed or other "dangerous" breeds to the close proximity of other families in high season, I would not dream of taking my 4 year old GSD to a site where there would be many other dogs and young children.
In my opinion this is not a dog or owner issue iether, it is simply about responsible owners recognising that their dog needs careful management in public places.
We have dogs and cats - they sleep together and play together.
Would not be without any of them.
Thank goodness more sensible comments now. Dogs are a huge responcibility - and should not be taken on lightly.
The concept of "a dog is for life" is certainly one I follow and whilst I know that having them on a lead is sensible as Wayne points out, from my experience if dogs meet off the lead, there is usually a pecking order to sort out amongst them then all is happy.
Happens in every pack/herd animal.
Just been on holiday with our two dogs and our friends with their two. No problem whatsoever.
Dogs often pick up on aggression.
Certainly too much of it here of late.
Would not be without any of them.
Thank goodness more sensible comments now. Dogs are a huge responcibility - and should not be taken on lightly.
The concept of "a dog is for life" is certainly one I follow and whilst I know that having them on a lead is sensible as Wayne points out, from my experience if dogs meet off the lead, there is usually a pecking order to sort out amongst them then all is happy.
Happens in every pack/herd animal.
Just been on holiday with our two dogs and our friends with their two. No problem whatsoever.
Dogs often pick up on aggression.
Certainly too much of it here of late.
Debbi, if a Ridgeback is a fighting dog, I want my money back. Our dog was chased off by snappy little thing that stood perhaps 13 inches high. Fighting dog? More like frightened dog!I used to have a German Shepherd cross that looked identical to a pedigree Shepherd, would you then have animals looking like a particular breed banned?
At present I have a gorgeous looking mongrel but she is Staffy cross Rhodesian Ridgeback (fighting dogs) and greyhound. Should she be banned as she has two fighting dogs, which you would ban, in her breeding. To look at she is neither one or the other.
It is the owners that make dogs nasty and any responsible ownwer will mozzle a bad tempered dog and/or not take it away with them in the caravan.
Please do not blame all dogs whatever their breed or how they look, as in people not all have the same temperament within the same breed.
Well said.Wayne,
You have put your finger on it mate - it's all about responsibility. GSD's are naturally suspicious of strangers, it's in their nature and this is used to good effect in guarding and security work. They also make excellent familiy pets and are fiercly loyal as you and I both know, but undeniably, they do actually have a bad reputation.
It is not fair to them or residents to subject this breed or other "dangerous" breeds to the close proximity of other families in high season, I would not dream of taking my 4 year old GSD to a site where there would be many other dogs and young children.
In my opinion this is not a dog or owner issue iether, it is simply about responsible owners recognising that their dog needs careful management in public places.
For those who are thinking of getting a dog. Please remember that its a big responsibility.
Toby did an OWEN last week and was due to have it fixed on Friday PM. They noticed a problem and postponed until this Wednesday. On Monday he did the other one and now has no control of his back legs. He has 12months plus of ops and recovery and my bill will be close to
Toby did an OWEN last week and was due to have it fixed on Friday PM. They noticed a problem and postponed until this Wednesday. On Monday he did the other one and now has no control of his back legs. He has 12months plus of ops and recovery and my bill will be close to
In response to the original poster. Its not about the breed of dog, its about the way the dog is handled and has been raised/trained. We have a german shepherd and it REALLY narks me that some sites actually decide to ban her from their site because of her breed reputation. Of course GSD'S, Dobermans, Rotties etc are powerful big dogs, but ANY dog can cause injury or be a nuisance.
On site, you wouldnt even know we had our GSD with us, she is hardly makes a sound, we go to adult only sites in the height of summer because firstly I want a quiet holiday, secondly I know she is not all that keen on children so I CHOOSE not to put her in a situation where she would become stressed or cause annoyance to others. In the winter we go to normal sites, but we tend to pick quiet sites with an onsite forest (for walkies) or access to the beach. When we are on site our dog is on the lead at all times, and is never left un-attended around the caravan.
If a neighbouring caravanner/camper approaches for a friendly hello they will ask if she is friendly and we always say "no - not with strangers", which is natural for a GSD as they are natural protectors.
She has never bitten anyone, or been aggressive to anyone as we have taken responsibility for our dog and she has led a happy life, why should we be banned from a site?
We returned a few weeks ago from an adult only site in Dorset where the majority of dog owners (and there were a lot!) had small dogs (terriers, cockers etc) and there was constant noise from them, yapping, fighting, barking..but not one squeak from our GSD who was happily lied on the chair in the van.
Now if you were to line the doggies on site in an identity parade for a "neutral" person to pick out the most likeliest nuisance on site - that person would pick the german shepherd everytime......that's what comes with the territory owning a so called "dangerous breed"!
Im sure this topic will go on and on (as I have raised this point before about large breeds being banned).
We will continue having hundreds of lovely relaxing holidays with our german sheperds....the only people losing out are the sites that decide to ban us and not get our hard earned pennies.
On site, you wouldnt even know we had our GSD with us, she is hardly makes a sound, we go to adult only sites in the height of summer because firstly I want a quiet holiday, secondly I know she is not all that keen on children so I CHOOSE not to put her in a situation where she would become stressed or cause annoyance to others. In the winter we go to normal sites, but we tend to pick quiet sites with an onsite forest (for walkies) or access to the beach. When we are on site our dog is on the lead at all times, and is never left un-attended around the caravan.
If a neighbouring caravanner/camper approaches for a friendly hello they will ask if she is friendly and we always say "no - not with strangers", which is natural for a GSD as they are natural protectors.
She has never bitten anyone, or been aggressive to anyone as we have taken responsibility for our dog and she has led a happy life, why should we be banned from a site?
We returned a few weeks ago from an adult only site in Dorset where the majority of dog owners (and there were a lot!) had small dogs (terriers, cockers etc) and there was constant noise from them, yapping, fighting, barking..but not one squeak from our GSD who was happily lied on the chair in the van.
Now if you were to line the doggies on site in an identity parade for a "neutral" person to pick out the most likeliest nuisance on site - that person would pick the german shepherd everytime......that's what comes with the territory owning a so called "dangerous breed"!
Im sure this topic will go on and on (as I have raised this point before about large breeds being banned).
We will continue having hundreds of lovely relaxing holidays with our german sheperds....the only people losing out are the sites that decide to ban us and not get our hard earned pennies.
We have a mid sized yorkshire terrier who is as dull as they come, she does bark but listens when i tell her to be be quiet, she is rarely nasty, not even to other dogs but get in between her and her jumbone and she will rip your hand off.
My feeling is that a well trained dog no matter what breed can be a loving adorable pet, from a yappy little terrier to those horse sized japanese things.
However, should any dog turn for no reason (as does happen from time to time) i will take my chances on booting a terrier in preference to taking on a staff who lets face is a solid muscular machine that is unlikely to be stopped.
We all think our pets are well trained and wont turn, but should it i want to know i will win a fight with it. yappy terriers all the way for me.
My feeling is that a well trained dog no matter what breed can be a loving adorable pet, from a yappy little terrier to those horse sized japanese things.
However, should any dog turn for no reason (as does happen from time to time) i will take my chances on booting a terrier in preference to taking on a staff who lets face is a solid muscular machine that is unlikely to be stopped.
We all think our pets are well trained and wont turn, but should it i want to know i will win a fight with it. yappy terriers all the way for me.
lol 🙂 the jumbone must be just as big as her!We have a mid sized yorkshire terrier who is as dull as they come, she does bark but listens when i tell her to be be quiet, she is rarely nasty, not even to other dogs but get in between her and her jumbone and she will rip your hand off.
My feeling is that a well trained dog no matter what breed can be a loving adorable pet, from a yappy little terrier to those horse sized japanese things.
However, should any dog turn for no reason (as does happen from time to time) i will take my chances on booting a terrier in preference to taking on a staff who lets face is a solid muscular machine that is unlikely to be stopped.
We all think our pets are well trained and wont turn, but should it i want to know i will win a fight with it. yappy terriers all the way for me.
it hangs out of her mouth like a cuban cigar!lol 🙂 the jumbone must be just as big as her!
brilliant to see.
🙂
hi we have a staffie and we used to get stopped everytime we went anywhere in cornwall.its nice but it gets to much. we are going to breed from her next year because we want a dog out of her and people wanted our details off champdogs etc.Ian
When we were on holiday in Cornwall in the summer, whilst out and about, on beaches, walking through towns and villages, on average we were approached by upto 15 people a day wanting to stroke my Stafford and enquire about his temperament. This gave me the chance to dispel a few myths.
In fact, in Fowey, I was approached by a couple (middle aged, well dressed) who actually tried to make me an offer for him. They ended up taking loads of photos of him.
Staffordshire bull terriers were originally bred for bull baiting and dog fighting. As said previously, they make terrible guard dogs.
Look at this link
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/lhousley/dieselchanged.jpg
A killer in the mist? I think not.
Lisa
jo-anne
i am the proud owner of a very well bred staffordshire bull terrier.its the owners not the dogs who give certain dogs a bad press.
Do you see why I feel like I have sinned? *L*i am the proud owner of a very well bred staffordshire bull terrier.its the owners not the dogs who give certain dogs a bad press.
Don't cats take dumps then Frank?? Oh yes, I just remembered, in other peoples gardens :O) now thats what I call training, get the neighbour to clear it up. hehheh!Pleased that I can't get involved in this one,not being a dog lover. IMHO dogs are machines that just turn a ton of food into something that needs to be picked up in Parks and on Pavements etc.And a lot of owners don't mind, if it's picked up by a childs or an adults shoes.
ps I think it's very childish to call for a forum member to be banned, because he has an outrageous point of view -)
I can't fall out with someone I have never met.
Cats forever thats what I say --------))))))
Val & Frank
Val & Frank
No I don't Nicci - if you had lied in your post maybe but you posted as you saw the situation :O)i am the proud owner of a very well bred staffordshire bull terrier.its the owners not the dogs who give certain dogs a bad press.
I forgive you so theres no need to say 10 Hail Mary's and gargle in Holy Maids Water - hehheh!
For those who are thinking of getting a dog. Please remember that its a big responsibility.
Toby did an OWEN last week and was due to have it fixed on Friday PM. They noticed a problem and postponed until this Wednesday. On Monday he did the other one and now has no control of his back legs. He has 12months plus of ops and recovery and my bill will be close to
MikeAce is right - whilst the Flat Coat Retriever I previously mentioned was "a bit off wack" from day one it seems, the owner said that at times it was very loving.
It may have had a real problem, mental or physical that caused its aberrant behaviour but sadly no amount of training seemed to work.
Apparently when it launched itself at the vet after sitting there wagging its tail and "smiling" at him, a decision had to be made.
It may have had a real problem, mental or physical that caused its aberrant behaviour but sadly no amount of training seemed to work.
Apparently when it launched itself at the vet after sitting there wagging its tail and "smiling" at him, a decision had to be made.
I am pleased to see that 99% of readers of this topic had the intelligence to understand the point of my topic and respond to the original topic in a civilised and constructive manner. From this I assume that they set high standards for themselves and it would be a pleasure to be camped alongside them.
Bad dogs come from bad owners no matter what breed, some sites overreact on breed of dog, but then you have a really dangerous breed that according to some posts is specifically mentioned in an Act of Parliament, something I never knew, and that is the breed that should be banned from sites for the safety of children and other dog owners.
Most sites do not question the breed of dog when taking a booking as I assume that they think a caravanner is a responsible person who will use their common sense and judgement when deciding whether their dog is safe to bring onto a site.
Bad dogs come from bad owners no matter what breed, some sites overreact on breed of dog, but then you have a really dangerous breed that according to some posts is specifically mentioned in an Act of Parliament, something I never knew, and that is the breed that should be banned from sites for the safety of children and other dog owners.
Most sites do not question the breed of dog when taking a booking as I assume that they think a caravanner is a responsible person who will use their common sense and judgement when deciding whether their dog is safe to bring onto a site.
Sadly Ian no matter what walk of life you go that 1% is always there lmaoooo. ;O)I am pleased to see that 99% of readers of this topic had the intelligence to understand the point of my topic and respond to the original topic in a civilised and constructive manner. From this I assume that they set high standards for themselves and it would be a pleasure to be camped alongside them.
Bad dogs come from bad owners no matter what breed, some sites overreact on breed of dog, but then you have a really dangerous breed that according to some posts is specifically mentioned in an Act of Parliament, something I never knew, and that is the breed that should be banned from sites for the safety of children and other dog owners.
Most sites do not question the breed of dog when taking a booking as I assume that they think a caravanner is a responsible person who will use their common sense and judgement when deciding whether their dog is safe to bring onto a site.
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