Tyre dates!!

Jul 9, 2016
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Hello,
I have heard that tyres should be changed every 5 years.I have looked at my tyres to see how old they are but can't see any date stamps on them.Is it me or am I being a bit thick. :blink:
Thanks in advance ,
All the best,
Mike.
 
Jul 9, 2016
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Well,well,well.Now that's almost like a magic trick,well hidden. Thanks for the extra rapid response Gagakev ,guess what I'm doing in the next 5 minutes.
Mike.
 
Apr 20, 2009
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fleetwood4444 said:
Well,well,well.Now that's almost like a magic trick,well hidden. Thanks for the extra rapid response Gagakev ,guess what I'm doing in the next 5 minutes.
Mike.

Come on Mike you have had 12 minutes now....how old are they?? :)
 
Feb 3, 2008
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Sometimes the date code is only on one side of the tyre and sod's law says it's on the inside where you can't see it. :(
This then requires a mirror and a torch.
 
Jul 9, 2016
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The answer is 4811. I had to pop out to collect my wife fron the village hall hence the delay. Signal very poor also. Thanks for your help. Love this forum.
Mike.
 
Apr 7, 2008
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fleetwood4444 said:
The answer is 4811.

So Mike
Your tyres were manufactured between the 28/11/2011 & the 04/12/2011 that makes them just over five & half years old ....
 
Nov 16, 2015
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Fleetwood, don't panic too much, there is another thread about tyres and age , and with lots of folks having different ideas, I tour with the van( maybe 6000 miles) a year, so will be happy to have my tyres on the van for 7 years as long as they do not show signs of deteriation, cracks etc. On the side walls. But if your van is mostly static, then I would chose to change earlier.
 
Jun 20, 2005
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Mike
This from the Caravan Club is very good
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022844/caravan-tyres-and-wheels-mo.pdf
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Dustydog said:
Mike
This from the Caravan Club is very good
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022844/caravan-tyres-and-wheels-mo.pdf

Hello Dusty,
That is a pretty good document, a lot to commend it in its conclusions, but I do find some of its logic off the mark.

It clearly recognises that especially single axle caravans load their tyres aggressively, even alluding to the fact
at times one tyre may be carrying virtually the whole caravan weight when towing, but incongruously it then tries to make out that caravan tyres are less tortured than car tyres, and that is a point I would argue.

I accept that only driven wheels under go the forces associated with putting power down to increase speed, however the forces endured under breaking are far more aggressive. after all most cars can get from 60 to 0 far quicker than 0 to 60. Also if you are increasing speed the whole tread surface is being used thus sharing the energy transfer, where as under braking the wheel has to be under-rotaing or even stopped to effect retardation, this means the energy density through the tread per unit area is higher.

As for lateral loads consider a typical car. When it corners, the side ways force is resisted predominately by the two outer most wheels. But as the mass sits within the wheel base, neither wheel sees more lateral load than the than the maximum mass it carries. But for a caravan, almost half its mass is distributed behind the axle, and when cornering this mass produces a greater lateral force on the outside wheel by virtue of its position behind the axle and hitch, in simplistic terms the pendulum effect.

I venture to suggest that caravan tyres rather than having an easy life just trundling behind a car, actually are subject to several forces that car tyres would not see.

Its important to have explained the forces issue before approaching the subject of directional tyres which has been touched on in earlier postings.

Given a scenario of a large puddle on a motorway, and an outfit travelling at speed towards it. If we assume the tow vehicle has good wet weather tyres and wont be troubled by the puddle, can the same be said for a caravan with poor wet tyres such as a directional tyre(s) fitted the wrong way round.

As the tow vehicle hits the puddle you can feel the cars speed drop as some of its forward kinetic energy is used to lift and throw the water away from the tyres. Now if the caravan tyres are less able to do the same to the water they will loose grip and could start to aquaplane. This means the caravan brakes effectiveness are reduced or completely ineffective. So the car is continuing to slow down, but the caravan is effectively floating on the water and pushing into the tow vehicle. When the hitch is fully compressed where can the caravan go - only sideways.

Its for this reason that I have come to the conclusion that you should have tyes on a trailer that should be at least as good as those on the car, and certainly it would be foolish to have a directional tyre fitted the wrong way round.

As the Caravan Club Document points out, the use of a directional tyre counter rotating should be used with the same caution as a space saver such as minimal distance and speed.and corrected as soon as possible.
 
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I can't argue the caravan tyres should be as good as the cars but this is generally the case given the low mileages the caravan tends to do. What I think is essential is that the wheel be removed at least once a year and examined for cracking and damage and replaced if there is the least suspicion of a problem. If the caravan has been stored over winter then it is best to do this before it is taken out again although if stored moving it a bit from time to time to prevent it standing on one section of the tyre too long also helps.
 

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