Vectra Noseweight

Aug 22, 2005
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I am thinking of changing from a Peugeot 407 1.6 hdi to a Vectra 1.9 cdti (150).

However according to information I have seen, the Vectra has a nosewight of only 50kg for all models including the estate. This appears very light and difficult to achieve.

Help please!

JSD
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi Jason

Your info appears to be correct, Vauxhall's own website states 50Kg max noseweight. If you have a choice and need a car to tow a caravan I would look elsewhere.

You will have great difficulty achieving such a low noseweight for the vast majority of vans, it will become too much of a hassle each time you want to travel anywhere.

Anything less than 75kg becomes a bind.

I am assuming you are talking of a current model Vectra as different data may apply to previous models.

Happy motoring
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi Jason,

I own a 51 plate vectra 2.2dti estate,(last of the old shape)

the figure quoted within my owners manual is Coupling socket load Max 75 kg.

Trust this is of help to you.

Royston
 
Nov 6, 2005
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Vectra noseweight limit is 75kg for earlier models and 78 kg for later and current ones, I'm not sure when the change was.

Any reference to 50 kg is erroneous - all Cavalier and Vectra derivatives have been 75/78 kg. Website data can never be relied on. Get a brochure from your nearest dealer to check.

Even the Astras have had a 75 kg limit for several models, although the Nova / Corsa were 50.
 
Mar 14, 2005
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Hi Jason,

If RogerL is correct and Vauxhall have put incorrect specs on their website, I think Vauxhall are a bunch of t"ssers and need to pay a bit more attention to what they are doing!

Happy motoring
 
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Hi Jason,

Like Royston I have a Vectra 2.2dti and we use a noseweight of 75kg and we tow a Baileys pageant Champagne caravan,the 1.9 should be ok with the 75kgs noseweightwe have been caravanning for 30yrs and never had a problem with noseweight.I must say it always pays to ask an experienced caravanner like the ones we get on this forum,they are a great hive of information.Jim
 
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Hi Jason - you may like to have a look at the Honest John website for an anal ysis on the Vectra

My thanks to Cliff for introducing me to this wonderful source of info.

For ease I repeat the info here:-

Source:- Honest John website

"Still only a three star performer in 2001 NCAP crash safety tests. Clutch replacement remains a five- to-six-hour job involving engine removal instead of the simple half-hour job it was on the Cavalier. Stodgy handling with severe understeer of early cars not entirely cured even in the 1999 improvements. Styled door mirrors give limited view. DI 16v has undeserved reputation as an oil burner. What actually happens is that oil collects in the 16v head and takes a long time to drain back to the sump. Dip within an hour of stopping and you will get a falsely low reading leading you to overfill with fresh oil. But engine also seems to have a genuine oil consumption problem. Apparently, the bores were machined with too high a gloss. Running-in oil has been used to attempt a quick fix, has been known to cause other problems. Vauxhall/Opel will not accept liability because it would mean expensive repairs to most 2.0DI and 2.2DI Vauxhall/Opel models. Several pressure groups are emerging to try to get Vauxhall/Opel to take responsibility: www.zafirauk.tk and www.peachorlemon.co.uk 2001 model year ex-fleet cars which have been subject to 20,000 mile oil changes will not be as good a second-hand buy as cars which have had their oil changed every 6 months or 7,000 miles at most. Plug leads deteriorate and are ridiculously expensive to replace. Whole dash needs to come out to replace odometer bulb. DIs seem to need new mass/airflow sensors every 36,000 miles. Timing belt and tensioner changes re-scheduled from 80,000 miles to 40,000 miles on engines which have them. Timing belts on 4 cylinder 16v engines also drive the water pump which can shed its impeller blades and seize, throwing off the belt, so best to change water pump too. Tensioner bolt which passes through oil pump also prone to fracture, leaving belt untensioned and apt to fly off. Internal roof stiffener bars on estate models can become unglued due to heat and cold on the roof and cause a rattle. Best tyres for older non-sporty Vectras are Pirelli P6000s. Best for new SRis and GSis are Yokohamas. Front suspension can wear prematurely. 15th from Bottom of 100 models for reliability in Auto Express 2002 survey. See 'What to Watch Out For' for a lot more faults. Clarkson was right first time. Now suffering corrosion of area around rear door latches. Franchises will repair under 6 year no perforation warranty, but only if service history is stamped up with corrosion inspections by Vauxhall franchises. Starting to get reports of water pump failure throwing off timing belts on 2.0 litre 16v petrol models. Noise from rear of car which sounds like wheel bearing noise is usually due to uneven rear tyre wear. Gearbox problems now beginning to emerge on late 1.8s. 2.2 16v petrol engine has been known to snap its timing chain due to the lubrication jet becoming blocked, possibly as a result of running on dirty oil due to extented oil change intervals. Ignition control unit of 2.2 petrol engine is prone to burning out. Repeated a/c compressor failures are common and using the a/c once a week does not seem to prevent this. On diesels, older F18 gearbox prone to fail and by 2005later e F23 gearboxes were failing too. I cannot recommend these cars. Only 88% breakdown free in 2003 Which survey. 28th from bottom out of 137 models in 2003 Top Gear survey. Only 89% of cars up to 2 years old breakdown-free over previous 12 months in 2004 Which? survey. 2004 Which? quote: "Disappointment on wheels. A slightly depressing driving experience and woeful build quality."
 
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The Honest John website seems to have jumbled up everything negative it could find on the Vectra, irrespective of model year or engine/transmission combination. The 150hp 1.9CDTI that Jason is asking about, however, has a good reputation and shouldn't be thrown in with the rest of them. A very biased report which has obviously been written to slam the Vectra by someone who doesn't like them in the first place.
 
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Agreed Lutz - I feel the same way about the report on the Freelander - But some think it is fair game to quote it so I did the same on the Vectra.

All I ask is a level playing field.
 
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Agreed Lutz - I feel the same way about the report on the Freelander - But some think it is fair game to quote it so I did the same on the Vectra.

All I ask is a level playing field.
You don't need a level playing field, LandRovers can go most places......

;o)
 
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If the Vauxhall Vectra is such a poor car, why are the Saab 9-3, 9-5 and Cadillac BLS all rated so highly? They all use the Vectra as a basis - floorpan, suspension, engines, transmissions, electrics, etc.

Fleet users concentrate on one important statistic - cost per mile - if they weren't getting value for money they'd have stopped buying Vectras years ago.
 
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The change from 75kg to 78kg max. noseweight was with the introduction of the current shape. and it applies ONLY to the saloon/hatchback and the Signum. The estate car has a 85kg limit.

Just for further info:

The Meriva has a 50kg or a 55kg limit, depending on the respective D value for the towbar (7.55 and 8.25).

The Astra and the Zafira are always rated at 75kg.
 
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Roger - Nobody is saying the Vectra is a poor car.

That is the whole point - The Honest John website would have you believe the thing is the biggest pile of poo on 4 wheels.

The actually slate it more than the Freelander. My point is that whilst nobody jumps up and down with righteous indignation every time a Vauxhall Vectra is mentioned.

The same old names DO jump up with their "you don't wanna do that" brand of haemorrhoidal balm as soon as any Land Rover product is mentioned.

As you say - if any car were that bad - nobody would buy them!
 
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Agreed Lutz - I feel the same way about the report on the Freelander - But some think it is fair game to quote it so I did the same on the Vectra.

All I ask is a level playing field.
You are right Lol - I should have said - all I want is a muddy track with a 45deg slope up and a 45deg dowm.

Sort the men from the boys!
 
Jan 3, 2004
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The extract from honest john is actually refering to the old shape vectra (pre 2002). Honest John is actually quite complimentary about the ne one, especially the 1.9CDTi engine! http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road_tests/index.htm?id=151

Andrew
 
Aug 28, 2005
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Lutz/Clive V ,

Talk about irony, because at the beginning of the week I was told that I will be asked to take a Company Car from Later on in the year rather than continue to opt out.

As our children our now out of buggies etc then the good lady will down size and I will upsize, Following on from Clive's comments I thought that the current version of the Vectra had been substantially sorted by improvements all round particularly the use of a new engine is this not the case ?? I'll be running some data from the Lease co next week but the choice is getting less by the day Volvo V50 not big enough, Laugna II - potential weight issue. Looks like the New Octavia or Passatany others ?? (Lowest tax please)

Kindest Regards

MH
 
Aug 22, 2005
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Thanks all for your replies.

Finally managed to get an answer from Vauxhall......they say 78kg and this was confirmed when I eventually got a brochure.

Thanks again.

JSD
 

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