This morning on tv BBC1 the presenter asked why so many young people drinking than before.Parents have a lot to blame in there moden day lifestyle.For instance i am a wrinkly and you would never find alcohol in our house when i lived at home , my Dad use to meet his brothers in a pub for their drinks , i might be outside with a lemonade and biscuit .Times change and every one i know has a stock of wine plus some beers in their house so children are brought up that it is quite ok as parents have it so why not them. I am sure many of you see differant.
Young people drinking
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My parents allways had beer and wine in our house when i was younger (born 1965)but i didnt dare to touch it and the same goes for my house, i allways have a stock of beers wine and spirits in the house since we never know who might visit and when. neither of my kids have ever dared to take any from the house and ive never once seen them come home showing the effects of drink, well at least untill they both turned 18 that is.
Its not hard to understand why more and more people are turning to drinking at home though is it ? my wife and myself went to our local last saturday at 9 in the evening and returned home 3 hours later
Its not hard to understand why more and more people are turning to drinking at home though is it ? my wife and myself went to our local last saturday at 9 in the evening and returned home 3 hours later
Drinking just seems to be one of the things that kids 'do' these days! Did you also hear the radio programme about their behaviour now they have free unlimited travel on London buses! It was scandalous - they have no respect for adults, no fear of repercussions, and just do what they like, threaten who they want, mug their own friends for their phones, or money, swear like troopers, vandalise the seats, scratch the windows, spit down the stairs, and intimidate other travellers.
Some kids these days have little to fear, because they know the bus driver can't do anything, the law can't do a lot, teachers can't punish them, parents can't punish them, the police choose to ignore them, and their behaviour just escalates and gets really out of hand. Look at the other thread about someone who was kicked to death for a bottle of wine, for heaven's sake.
Some kids these days have little to fear, because they know the bus driver can't do anything, the law can't do a lot, teachers can't punish them, parents can't punish them, the police choose to ignore them, and their behaviour just escalates and gets really out of hand. Look at the other thread about someone who was kicked to death for a bottle of wine, for heaven's sake.
There was always a few bottles of shorts in the sideboard cupboard at home when I was a child but it was only touched if we had "posh" visitiors, Christmas time or for a special celebration. Apart from buying a few flagons of stout for the Christmas puddings and maybe a bottle or two of shorts at Christmas I never knew my father entering a pub or off licence. I never witnessed my parents being drunk and I have never been drunk in my 60+ years of life - I do enjoy a pint and also a few different shorts and probably more than the drink/drive limits (never driven after even a shandy) but know when I have had enough.
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When I was young I lived for a lengthy period with my aunt and uncle because my father was a widower with a young family of four children.
Aunt and Uncle were licencees in a very busy public house but although I was allowed to make up and maintain the coal fire, run errands for favoured customers and help to sweep up during afternoons while my Uncle had his forty winks (the pubs used to close in those days) the thought of drinking any alcohol would never have entered my head.
When my father remarried he also became a licencee and I would often help out but I wouldn't drink the stuff.
When I was eventually allowed to imbibe it was under the supervision of my father who taught me to know my limits. The stuff that they serve up to youngsters these days are soft drinks but with a hidden and very high alcohol content.
If they had to try and tackle a pint of Hansons Mild as we did in our youth they wouldn't drink so much I can tell you!
Aunt and Uncle were licencees in a very busy public house but although I was allowed to make up and maintain the coal fire, run errands for favoured customers and help to sweep up during afternoons while my Uncle had his forty winks (the pubs used to close in those days) the thought of drinking any alcohol would never have entered my head.
When my father remarried he also became a licencee and I would often help out but I wouldn't drink the stuff.
When I was eventually allowed to imbibe it was under the supervision of my father who taught me to know my limits. The stuff that they serve up to youngsters these days are soft drinks but with a hidden and very high alcohol content.
If they had to try and tackle a pint of Hansons Mild as we did in our youth they wouldn't drink so much I can tell you!
At the risk of being persecuted I have to say its not all the youngsters fault. It is a learned behaviour in my experience, fragmented family units, benefits culture, cheap booze, its a recipe for disaster.
I was only thinking the other day when my daughter passed her driving test, what about the kids whose parents/single mum can't afford to pay for driving lessons let alone a car. Is it surprising there's so much taking without consent and joyriding - these kids have not a hope in hell of learning to drive. Same as drinking, we are all a sum total of our life experiences - it is a learned behaviour. The parents are financially better off on benefits and sitting on their butts all day, they can't afford to do anything more than socialising drinking cheap booze....just don't get me started.
Before you accuse me of judging from my ivory tower I was a single mum for 8 years - I gave up a job in London for one of the four big banks because I was better off on the dole... that's the truth of it..I would have loved to keep my job! My kids are going on to uni and I am now working full time, this is due to the inherited values and attitudes from my elderly parents. The kids of today don't have the want or moreover the need to get out of bed to make anything of themselves. Drink is their escapism, can you blame them when they have little or no hope of making anything of their lives?
I was only thinking the other day when my daughter passed her driving test, what about the kids whose parents/single mum can't afford to pay for driving lessons let alone a car. Is it surprising there's so much taking without consent and joyriding - these kids have not a hope in hell of learning to drive. Same as drinking, we are all a sum total of our life experiences - it is a learned behaviour. The parents are financially better off on benefits and sitting on their butts all day, they can't afford to do anything more than socialising drinking cheap booze....just don't get me started.
Before you accuse me of judging from my ivory tower I was a single mum for 8 years - I gave up a job in London for one of the four big banks because I was better off on the dole... that's the truth of it..I would have loved to keep my job! My kids are going on to uni and I am now working full time, this is due to the inherited values and attitudes from my elderly parents. The kids of today don't have the want or moreover the need to get out of bed to make anything of themselves. Drink is their escapism, can you blame them when they have little or no hope of making anything of their lives?
Valerie - I think you have hit the nail fair and square on the head. Majority of children of today are given anything and everything on a plate and those who cannot for some unknown reason have it just take it as if it is their right. I admire your stance and attitude as a single parent and the morals you must have instilled into your children during this time. Society in general is to blame with the lack of disciplin in the home and school as the so called "do gooders" of this country has handed the rod to the child and not the adult. "I know my rights - you can't touch me" attitude.
We see violence on TV, available on DVD/video, games consuls and God knows where else - the youngsters will grow up thinking this is normal and act accordingly. Between alcohol and drugs clouding their brain it is no wander they then turn to crime and violance. Stiffer corective penalties are required and if the child is under the age whereby they cannot be taken to court the parent should pay the penalty for not supervising their child correctly.
It was reported the other day of a 14 year old boy being killed by a train late at night in Liverpool. Where were his parents to let him out that late. My children at that age were in bed at that time and even now with a 28 year old son living at home my wife and I are in bed but only "cat napping" until he is home.
We see violence on TV, available on DVD/video, games consuls and God knows where else - the youngsters will grow up thinking this is normal and act accordingly. Between alcohol and drugs clouding their brain it is no wander they then turn to crime and violance. Stiffer corective penalties are required and if the child is under the age whereby they cannot be taken to court the parent should pay the penalty for not supervising their child correctly.
It was reported the other day of a 14 year old boy being killed by a train late at night in Liverpool. Where were his parents to let him out that late. My children at that age were in bed at that time and even now with a 28 year old son living at home my wife and I are in bed but only "cat napping" until he is home.
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