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Hi , We have just bought a Bailey grande se messina.We have loads of 240v sockets but just 2 12 v. Is it easy to swap a 240 to a 12 v socket and best place to get one. Thanks Mike
 
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Hi , We have just bought a Bailey grande se messina.We have loads of 240v sockets but just 2 12 v. Is it easy to swap a 240 to a 12 v socket and best place to get one. Thanks Mike
Not that easy - you'd need to re-wire from a 12v source after removing the trim the panel is on.
 
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Hi , We have just bought a Bailey grande se messina.We have loads of 240v sockets but just 2 12 v. Is it easy to swap a 240 to a 12 v socket and best place to get one. Thanks Mike
Is there a reason why you need more 12v sockets? It is not an easy task to swap wiring unless you have a circuit diagram and are competent with electrics as you do not want to put your family in danger.
 
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When people state it is NOT easy, it all depends on your level of competence.
For myself I would be easy to do, but for me to colour in a paint by numbers picture would not be a very easy task.
Search through the various caravan supply shops, for sockets, Google makes it easy. As does You Tube for changing things.
 
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When people state it is NOT easy, it all depends on your level of competence.
For myself I would be easy to do, but for me to colour in a paint by numbers picture would not be a very easy task.
Search through the various caravan supply shops, for sockets, Google makes it easy. As does You Tube for changing things.
You can't just change the socket - the hidden wiring would need changing as well.
 
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Hi , We have just bought a Bailey grande se messina.We have loads of 240v sockets but just 2 12 v. Is it easy to swap a 240 to a 12 v socket and best place to get one. Thanks Mike
How old is it Mike ?

You need to be careful whatever you do doesn’t compromise any outstanding Warranty from Bailey or your Dealer. If you don’t know use an AWS engineer
 
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if you brought your caravan from dealership i am sure they would put some extra 12v sockets in for you just give them a ring.
 
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Why do people not give an answer to someone's question.
If yo want to change a socket then they want to change a socket.
Don't question it give a real answer.
Yes it's awkward for a numpty to change a socket. Then again it's hard for someone to change a caravan wheel, if you are disabled.
The Forum site is Practical Caravan, Not Contact a Dealer.
 
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Why do people not give an answer to someone's question.
If yo want to change a socket then they want to change a socket.
Don't question it give a real answer.
Yes it's awkward for a numpty to change a socket. Then again it's hard for someone to change a caravan wheel, if you are disabled.
The Forum site is Practical Caravan, Not Contact a Dealer.
Thanks Hutch, most eloquent for a Woosie but spot on..👍

My old girl has a 230v system made up of basically spurs.. Later models may be ring main which will need a different approach to any capping off and maintaining continuity of the mains circuit.
I expect Mike knows that and will tell us how he intends approaching the conversion.

Meanwhile the various sockets required are easily available on line or at most reputable caravan dealers.
 
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Beach all, that's NOT the point, Mikc16 want to know if it is easy to do.

Surely that is what this forum is about.
Not just saying go to a dealer.

In this particular case, the OP's question is impossible for us to answer based on the information we have received. Based on the way the question has been asked, it calls into question the OP's understanding of the electrical system in the caravan, and that also raises concerns, becasue someone who would know about electrics would not need to ask this type of question.

Professionally I have had to deal with far too many DIY attempts at changes in caravans where the DIY'er has got it wrong and in some case had very serious consequence.

It is irresponsible to offer unfettered advice where there are signs of a lack of knowledge that could lead the person into real danger. What are the chances such a person has all the necessary test gear to be able to not only make the changes he wants, but to be able to properly test it for safety afterwards?

This is the danger of anonymised forums, where no has any real knowledge about the competencies of any other member - unless they know them personally.
 
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Why do people not give an answer to someone's question.
If yo want to change a socket then they want to change a socket.
Don't question it give a real answer.
Yes it's awkward for a numpty to change a socket. Then again it's hard for someone to change a caravan wheel, if you are disabled.
The Forum site is Practical Caravan, Not Contact a Dealer.
WHOO! How many bees 🐝 have you got in your bunnet now 🤔
 
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In this particular case, the OP's question is impossible for us to answer based on the information we have received. Based on the way the question has been asked, it calls into question the OP's understanding of the electrical system in the caravan, and that also raises concerns, becasue someone who would know about electrics would not need to ask this type of question.

Professionally I have had to deal with far too many DIY attempts at changes in caravans where the DIY'er has got it wrong and in some case had very serious consequence.

It is irresponsible to offer unfettered advice where there are signs of a lack of knowledge that could lead the person into real danger. What are the chances such a person has all the necessary test gear to be able to not only make the changes he wants, but to be able to properly test it for safety afterwards?

This is the danger of anonymised forums, where no has any real knowledge about the competencies of any other member - unless they know them personally.
But you could reply to the question by asking , what would the 12 volt supply be used for. And therefore give a sensible answer .
 
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But you could reply to the question by asking , what would the 12 volt supply be used for. And therefore give a sensible answer .
Several people already have asked the OP to provide more information, but until he does, there is nothing that builds any more confidence in his abilities to start the job.

Perhaps with your aeronautical experience you could talk him through it?
 
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Several people already have asked the OP to provide more information, but until he does, there is nothing that builds any more confidence in his abilities to start the job.

Perhaps with your aeronautical experience you could talk him through it?
When he/ she replies, then we may give the poster some help.
We have probably scared them away to Caravan Talk.
 
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Beach all, that's NOT the point, Mikc16 want to know if it is easy to do.

Surely that is what this forum is about.
Not just saying go to a dealer.
Actually in this case BB is perfectly correct as if bought from a dealership the caravan will be covered by CRA 2015 and perhaps a warranty. If the consumer interferes with the electrics, it will probably invalidate any warranty or CRA 2015 will not be applicable. If bought privately then there is no issue.
 

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Gentlefolk.....

Yet another example of why some new members never return. More discussion amongst long serving members about the content of their replies or questioning abilities. Being overly pedantic doesn't help either.

We were all new at it at one point. Not knowing how to do something or even phrase the right question is normal.

Please try and help the new members, not scare them away.
 
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Actually in this case BB is perfectly correct as if bought from a dealership the caravan will be covered by CRA 2015 and perhaps a warranty. If the consumer interferes with the electrics, it will probably invalidate any warranty or CRA 2015 will not be applicable. If bought privately then there is no issue.
See #6.
Sometimes we fall between two stools.😉

I’m very much for diy. The magazine name says Practical. But in reality we all know there are limitations.
Maybe someone should draw up a basic questionnaire for new members when asking technical questions? It could ask the extent of their experience etc?

As Hutch suggests the OP has probably gone elsewhere!

Crossed with Sam’s
 
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Another vote here for the use of plug in adaptors (not cheap EBAY ones, they get rather warm!). However as others have possibly said, most caravans use electric outlets (12 volts, 230 volts, aerial etc) from one manufacturer with a common plinth size. Providing the 230 volt feed is safely terminated or disconnected it could be done/swapped but adding another 12 volt socket next to an existing one might be easier.
 

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