Absolutely disgusted when I heard my road tax was increasing from £210 per year to £445.00 - started to have a look at changing the Mitsubishi Shogun Sport to a more economical car say a mondeo or vectra. Then started to wonder what it would cost to change - all the sales people advising that my car was crap and not worth what it used to be and so on. Probably lose £2000 - £3000 on what I paid for it 12 month ago, okay so the fuel is still thirsty but that can't keep rising or can it??? My 4x4 can do everything I need it to do - it goes off road when we need to collect wood for my fire, it carrys my smelly dog when he's been for a swim, it carries my family, it takes me to and from work, it can carry bikes and it can pull my caravan. It does all this with not much effort. Did look at the new more economical 4x4's say for instance the Mitsubishi Outlander but to change I would be looking at the best part of £10000. Therefore I am sticking firmly with what I have got. Was it just us or has everyone else has this dilema now that the road tax has increased?
Are you changing your 4x4 now the road tax has increased???
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Hi Dan & Paula,No,No,No! I will not allow the idiots in this Government to force me out of my Disco.Sadly the tax issue has nothing to do with pollution but more to do with this Country being bankrupt due to Blair and his inept companions.I shall also keep having a pint and the odd bottle of wine,still eat the odd full breakfast and open doors for old ladies.I shall continue to say, please and thank you as well.
Sod them!
Cheers Bernie
Sod them!
Cheers Bernie
VED is emotive - people have no problem budgeting several tens of thousands of pounds for a car but get wound up by VED of several hundred pounds.
The amount of VED is only important when you're choosing your next car - the cost to change will greatly outweigh any VED savings.
My VED will rise from
The amount of VED is only important when you're choosing your next car - the cost to change will greatly outweigh any VED savings.
My VED will rise from
Not a chance - we love our Landcruiser and as it does 31mpg daily we do not consider it to be a 'gas guzzler'. IT is just more dishonest thieving by this government who should be ashamed of themselves for the mess we are now in. They set a fine example of hypocrisy riding around in 'bullet proof' Jags.
Disgusted and disheartened but not yet beaten.
Disgusted and disheartened but not yet beaten.
Hi not a chance of us changing our shogun its our choice and were sticking to it.... Although were pre 2001 so it doesnt effect us YET!!!!(I dont think)....
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I am convinced that your responses are exactly what the chancellor was expecting. There will be a few who will dispose of their high consumption vehicles, but the majority who have them will grin and bear the cost of the extra duty for exactly the reasons you give.
It may discourage some people buying such vehicles new from now on, but as a large majority of these are company purchases rather than private, the economics of ownership are slightly different.
As Bernard says, these hikes in VED will not go towards reducing CO2, they simply fill the exchequers coffers.
Perhaps my view is rather simple, but I cannot see why the government (of all political persuasions) find it necessary to increase taxes so much. The exchequer reaps the benefit of inflation.
So why do they need to push taxes up all the time? Any suggestions?
I am convinced that your responses are exactly what the chancellor was expecting. There will be a few who will dispose of their high consumption vehicles, but the majority who have them will grin and bear the cost of the extra duty for exactly the reasons you give.
It may discourage some people buying such vehicles new from now on, but as a large majority of these are company purchases rather than private, the economics of ownership are slightly different.
As Bernard says, these hikes in VED will not go towards reducing CO2, they simply fill the exchequers coffers.
Perhaps my view is rather simple, but I cannot see why the government (of all political persuasions) find it necessary to increase taxes so much. The exchequer reaps the benefit of inflation.
So why do they need to push taxes up all the time? Any suggestions?
John L - irrelevant to anyone's political opinion but education is in a mess, health is in a mess, defence is overstretched and under-equipped - these all need huge amounts of taxpayer's money to get right.
My solution - tax aviation fuel at the same rate as road fuel, abolish National Insurance to save collection costs, increase income tax from 20% to 30% to compensate for NI payments (no increase in collection cost) and 50% higher rate tax, with no concessions or loopholes.
Brown and Darling, successively, seem to expect taxation of UK motorists to cure the world's emission problem - we can't do it on our own !!
My solution - tax aviation fuel at the same rate as road fuel, abolish National Insurance to save collection costs, increase income tax from 20% to 30% to compensate for NI payments (no increase in collection cost) and 50% higher rate tax, with no concessions or loopholes.
Brown and Darling, successively, seem to expect taxation of UK motorists to cure the world's emission problem - we can't do it on our own !!
RogerL, I am sorry but if you think Education and Health need loads of money, I must ask where you think the massive amounts of cash that has been put into them over the last 6 years in particular have gone. The answer is simple---- Consultants reports,Wage increases ( I know one Head on
I,m with you Bernie - less government, less tax, less interfering in other countries business, less Quangos, less consultants, less civil servants, less council officials, less immigration, less health and safety and less rubish in the streets.
More comunity spirit, more individual involvement and more common sense in every walk of life.
More comunity spirit, more individual involvement and more common sense in every walk of life.
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