I think I might start calling myself McVal A - just to join in!
Us Yorkshire lassies are tight too - and keep our money tightly to our chests!
Us Yorkshire lassies are tight too - and keep our money tightly to our chests!
I think that went over Macs head Parksy lmaoooo
Somehow I think he shot himself in the foot.
hold yer horses here queenie, i found the post.
Somehow I think he shot himself in the foot.
hold yer horses here queenie, i found the post.
From your post above MacHighlander ...
"After all Gordon keeps exhorting us to 'spend, spend' just like he does."
quote from scotchlad.
So what we are saying is that ScotchLad, obviously a Scot who made the remark, is also fed up with Broon so obviously it's not only us south of the border.
"After all Gordon keeps exhorting us to 'spend, spend' just like he does."
quote from scotchlad.
So what we are saying is that ScotchLad, obviously a Scot who made the remark, is also fed up with Broon so obviously it's not only us south of the border.
Parksy
Moderator
Mac Highlander you wrote earlier quite rightly but in the wrong thread about forum posts that moaned about Gordon Brown and you wondered if 'maybe it's because he's a Scot?'
Then when you found the topic that you were looking for you quoted a couple of examples but the first one was written by Scotch Lad!
Then when you found the topic that you were looking for you quoted a couple of examples but the first one was written by Scotch Lad!
I think I might start calling myself McVal A - just to join in!
Us Yorkshire lassies are tight too - and keep our money tightly to our chests!
you feel free to join in lass, we've heard all about the yorkies tendencies up here, seen them on x tube
Us Yorkshire lassies are tight too - and keep our money tightly to our chests!
you feel free to join in lass, we've heard all about the yorkies tendencies up here, seen them on x tube
"Mac Highlander you wrote earlier quite rightly but in the wrong thread about forum posts that moaned about Gordon Brown and you wondered if 'maybe it's because he's a Scot?'
Then when you found the topic that you were looking for you quoted a couple of examples but the first one was written by Scotch Lad!"
yep, i know that buddy, but going by his posts which i have read in here since i joined, he no longer is, and gid riddance to him, can do without that attitude up here.
Then when you found the topic that you were looking for you quoted a couple of examples but the first one was written by Scotch Lad!"
yep, i know that buddy, but going by his posts which i have read in here since i joined, he no longer is, and gid riddance to him, can do without that attitude up here.
Parksy
Moderator
I wouldn't worry too much, Scotch Lad is an equal opportunity political critic, he moans about all of them, not just Broon.
no worries parksy, i just take people as i find them, whether its face to face or through the interntet, ye get a feeling who's alright and who's not in any of them.
I don't get this MacHighlander.
Because ScotchLad doesn't like Broon and posts as such as a Scot he shouldn't have that attitude.
Now I know that ScotchLad is a great fan and supporter of Big Eck so where does that place him??? ;O)
Because ScotchLad doesn't like Broon and posts as such as a Scot he shouldn't have that attitude.
Now I know that ScotchLad is a great fan and supporter of Big Eck so where does that place him??? ;O)
I don't get this MacHighlander.
Because ScotchLad doesn't like Broon and posts as such as a Scot he shouldn't have that attitude.
Now I know that ScotchLad is a great fan and supporter of Big Eck so where does that place him??? ;O)
dont get yer knickers in a twist with what i post lordy.
Because ScotchLad doesn't like Broon and posts as such as a Scot he shouldn't have that attitude.
Now I know that ScotchLad is a great fan and supporter of Big Eck so where does that place him??? ;O)
dont get yer knickers in a twist with what i post lordy.
They aren't my knickers, they are the chambermaids and if I was you I'd keep low for awhile. SL might not take kindly to, as a financial supporter and Hon. Sec. of the Eck Fanclub, having his loyalties questioned ... heh! heh! heh!
BTW, SL is 6'9" and has muscles in his spit :O)
I am repeating my post after a score or so of Mc'something posts that seem to be more interested in discussing/popping at Gordon Brown than the intended purpose of this site; i.e. debating real caravan issues . . . .
This issue of the CC opening its online bookings to all members (without deposit) on a specified day during December has always seemed totally barmy to me!!
It encourages multiple bookings with no real commitment and in my experience has for the last two years has caused the CC website to crash for hours/days at a time.
Why do we not learn from a commercial site that I tried to book with last year - I requested a long (3 day) weekend and was told that I should 'call back' nearer the time such that they could protect their commercial opportunity to let that pitch for a full week or similar.
I would suggest that the CC allow a 'rolling window' for bookings, such that you can book ahead a number of months - say 5 or 6 or 7, etc. This would eliminate the 'huge crush' that is currently experienced when the CC 'open' their bookings each year.
Additionally in order to better balance the system I would only permit bookings to be made in proportion to the duration of stay planned; i.e. stays of 6 or more nights could be booked 6 months in advance; 5 or more nights only 5 months in advance; etc, such that stays of 2 nights could only be made a maximum of 2 months in advance.
Finally I would expect everybody to pay a booking deposit of
This issue of the CC opening its online bookings to all members (without deposit) on a specified day during December has always seemed totally barmy to me!!
It encourages multiple bookings with no real commitment and in my experience has for the last two years has caused the CC website to crash for hours/days at a time.
Why do we not learn from a commercial site that I tried to book with last year - I requested a long (3 day) weekend and was told that I should 'call back' nearer the time such that they could protect their commercial opportunity to let that pitch for a full week or similar.
I would suggest that the CC allow a 'rolling window' for bookings, such that you can book ahead a number of months - say 5 or 6 or 7, etc. This would eliminate the 'huge crush' that is currently experienced when the CC 'open' their bookings each year.
Additionally in order to better balance the system I would only permit bookings to be made in proportion to the duration of stay planned; i.e. stays of 6 or more nights could be booked 6 months in advance; 5 or more nights only 5 months in advance; etc, such that stays of 2 nights could only be made a maximum of 2 months in advance.
Finally I would expect everybody to pay a booking deposit of
Over many years the method of bookings has always been a hot topic among caravan club members. Many ideas have been put forward by members and the wardens who have to deal with the members frustrations.
Over the past few years many members and non members have taken early retirement, therefore having more time to caravan. Membership has increased year on year.Caravan sales have increased. However new sites opened by the club have not kept pace. The club have done their best but they have a limited budget.
Most of my friends are members including wardens, and the subject of bookings often raises it's head.
If the club are going to give members a greater opportunity to book the busy sites, e.g. Chatsworth--Rowntree, to me they will have to make changes.I would suggest as follows:-
1. No more than say 5 bookings at any time. This would be on a rolling system.As one booking is used another can be made.
2. Two nights or less must be paid for in full at time of booking.
3. For any nights over two a decent deposit of say
Over the past few years many members and non members have taken early retirement, therefore having more time to caravan. Membership has increased year on year.Caravan sales have increased. However new sites opened by the club have not kept pace. The club have done their best but they have a limited budget.
Most of my friends are members including wardens, and the subject of bookings often raises it's head.
If the club are going to give members a greater opportunity to book the busy sites, e.g. Chatsworth--Rowntree, to me they will have to make changes.I would suggest as follows:-
1. No more than say 5 bookings at any time. This would be on a rolling system.As one booking is used another can be made.
2. Two nights or less must be paid for in full at time of booking.
3. For any nights over two a decent deposit of say
Julie .. absolutely nowt wrong with your ideas ..but they won't go down well.
Problem is too many folks don't think that the CC "should" be run as a business ... it is a club and it is "their" club ... so everything must happen to allow "them" what they want ....
The fact that commercial considerations must apply or the club goes broke .. doesn't enter their heads.
"I want it and I want it now" is the present mantra ..
Problem is too many folks don't think that the CC "should" be run as a business ... it is a club and it is "their" club ... so everything must happen to allow "them" what they want ....
The fact that commercial considerations must apply or the club goes broke .. doesn't enter their heads.
"I want it and I want it now" is the present mantra ..
Parksy
Moderator
I'm a member of the C&CC where deposits are taken on advance bookings.
The way that the CC conducts it's business is up to them and as a non member it's really none of mine but a look around any caravan forum will confirm that the deposit system causes no problems to C&CC members.
The gripes about pre booking or block booking in advance never appear on any forum from C&CC members.
Surely this is no coincidence and is proof that deposits work?
The way that the CC conducts it's business is up to them and as a non member it's really none of mine but a look around any caravan forum will confirm that the deposit system causes no problems to C&CC members.
The gripes about pre booking or block booking in advance never appear on any forum from C&CC members.
Surely this is no coincidence and is proof that deposits work?
Parksy I dislike everything about the unfriendly club, but in this case I have to agree with you.
Parksy
Moderator
Each to their own Ian
The C&CC does leave itself wide open by calling itself 'The Friendly Club' but I have to say that judging by forum posts from CC members over the past few years on various forums the title 'Unfriendly Club' has to go to the CC
The C&CC does leave itself wide open by calling itself 'The Friendly Club' but I have to say that judging by forum posts from CC members over the past few years on various forums the title 'Unfriendly Club' has to go to the CC
There are obviously other gripes about the C&CC (and I can think of more than one which is why I am not a member) otherwise,if it was that simple, the griping members of the CC club would just join the C&CC club instead.
Parksy
Moderator
Most of the gripes about the C&CC that I've seen (and I've seen a lot) are from non members of the C&CC.
Forums contain many post from CC members which tell us that they would NOT join the C&CC but very few gripes from actual members of the C&CC. My point is that CC members tend to be more vocal and do not confine their criticisms to the club that they are members of but seem to feel the need to constantly snipe at the club that they are not members of.
As a C&CC member I am fed up of non members having a pop at our club every time I submit a post which dares to mention the C&CC in a positive light.
CC members should address their own problems, pay a deposit like everybody else does even on commercial sites and stop moaning about a club that they are not members of.
Are CC members so insecure that they feel the need to add some sort of negative comment every time the C&CC is mentioned on the forum?
Forums contain many post from CC members which tell us that they would NOT join the C&CC but very few gripes from actual members of the C&CC. My point is that CC members tend to be more vocal and do not confine their criticisms to the club that they are members of but seem to feel the need to constantly snipe at the club that they are not members of.
As a C&CC member I am fed up of non members having a pop at our club every time I submit a post which dares to mention the C&CC in a positive light.
CC members should address their own problems, pay a deposit like everybody else does even on commercial sites and stop moaning about a club that they are not members of.
Are CC members so insecure that they feel the need to add some sort of negative comment every time the C&CC is mentioned on the forum?
It's basic human nature I am afraid Parksy, Tribalism is beyond reasoning.Some people have to challange anyone that is different from them or from their way of thinking.
Steve W
Steve W
I think its the popularity of the Caravan Club that is causing some of the problems for them. Clearly not getting a pitch you want seems to be the main cause. Whether deposits will solve that I somehow doubt. Rowntree Park and Chatsworth will still be popular and as difficult to get on. The real issues are the single day start of bookings rather than a rolling date, perhaps some rationing of weekend bookings might help but are more complicated. Clearly CC&C sites don't seem to be as popular as many CC sites,at least thats the impression you get unless CC&C members are trying to keep the best sites secret! Perhaps that is because they take deposits perhaps its because tent campers don't book up as far in advance as caravanners? I think its perfectly OK for non member of both Clubs to comment on the other providing they make that clear when posting. When ever you have a debate on deposits you always get members of the CC&C chipping in to say their system is better. I suspect the CC, and the CC&C are more likely to listen to members who contact them direct rather than be overly influenced by what is said on forums!
David
David
I suspect the CC, and the CC&C are more likely to listen to members who contact them direct rather than be overly influenced by what is said on forums!
Unfortunately David, In my experience, they don't seem to take any notice even then. Have the time they don't even acknowledge the fact that you have taken the time to write or e:mail.
Steve W
Unfortunately David, In my experience, they don't seem to take any notice even then. Have the time they don't even acknowledge the fact that you have taken the time to write or e:mail.
Steve W
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