connecting water direct to a sterling Europa

[starlightdj]

Hi all I have a sterling europa,

On fully serviced pitches I have always connected my aqua roll via a float system in the side to the tap so I never have to fill it up however after my daughter pulled the connector of the hose I guess it lost a seal or something as it now spays water all over the place.

My question rather than just replace the hose, is there any adapter i can get so the hose can plug straight into the van direct therby cutting out having to take the aqua roll.

Any advice greatfull

Thanks

John

 

[SBS]

Yes you can. Carver/Truma Waterline or Whale Aquasource. Both have a pressure reducer and so you end up with a lower shower flow (unless used in conjunction with an inboard pump).

Some people have concerns if the reducer fails and allow mains pressure to the 'van's plumbing.

However, it may be easier to fix the Aquaroll adapter. It sounds as if the 'hoselock type' connector is damaged but these are easily replaced.

Mike

 

[JTQ]

Quote: "Some people have concerns if the reducer fails and allow mains pressure to the 'van's plumbing."

Yes I am guilty I am one of them.

I could not rest at night or going out during the day knowing it only needs a malfunction for water to be trickling into the vans structure. Just a bit of dirt, a spider or similar getting in the hose and my van being effectively wrecked.

Much happier to know the consequences of the fault is limited to the Aquaroll overflowing and accepting the struggle of carrying the Aquaroll in the toilet on each trip.

 

[JTQ]

Quote: "Some people have concerns if the reducer fails and allow mains pressure to the 'van's plumbing."

Yes I am guilty I am one of them.

I could not rest at night or going out during the day knowing it only needs a malfunction for water to be trickling into the vans structure. Just a bit of dirt, a spider or similar getting in the hose and my van being effectively wrecked.

Much happier to know the consequences of the fault is limited to the Aquaroll overflowing and accepting the struggle of carrying the Aquaroll in the toilet on each trip.

Well "toilet compartment" reads more acceptably!

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hello John,

SBS has give a pretty concise answer, but I'm not sure how having an pump working inline with the pressure reducer works.

Suffice to say the majority of the direct water connection hose pipes use a pressure reducer which is set between 1 to 1.2Bar, unfortunately the equipment usually has a substantial flow restriction compared to a submersible pump, and the simply adding a pump to try and suck extra water through the reducer will have little effect.

If you have water pressure problems (low flow etc) at the moment, I am confident that using a direct water connection would be worse, so I suggest you stick with your current float valve system.

Incidentally, whilst the concerns of the pressure reducer failing and applying full mains pressure to a caravan system are understandable, If it were a real problem I am sure the likes of Truma and Whale would have withdrawn them from sale.

 

[Dustydog]

I'm afraid I'm with JTQ on this one.

Five years ago unbeknown to me my old dad accidentally knocked the kitchen tap and spout as he left the caravan. We were out the whole day and 40 litres of aquaroll water emptied inside.

What a mess and a job to clear that up.

Two rules now.

1. Whenever caravan is unattended pump is switched off.

2. Never use direct mains unless it can be isolated which I don't think it can.

The aquaroll mains adaptor has worked fine for me .

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[SBS]

Hello John,

SBS has give a pretty concise answer, but I'm not sure how having an pump working inline with the pressure reducer works.

Suffice to say the majority of the direct water connection hose pipes use a pressure reducer which is set between 1 to 1.2Bar, unfortunately the equipment usually has a substantial flow restriction compared to a submersible pump, and the simply adding a pump to try and suck extra water through the reducer will have little effect.

If you have water pressure problems (low flow etc) at the moment, I am confident that using a direct water connection would be worse, so I suggest you stick with your current float valve system.

Incidentally, whilst the concerns of the pressure reducer failing and applying full mains pressure to a caravan system are understandable, If it were a real problem I am sure the likes of Truma and Whale would have withdrawn them from sale.

John

Must admit we have never tried it direct with an inline pump as we have an inboard tank and pump. I'm OK with a direct connection as there is a solenoid valve directly after the inlet - unless the inlet to valve connection fails, as well.

We use the Whale Aquasource.

Mike

 

[Jennifer_374461363]

We use the Aquaroll adapter, but we always try to remember to turn off the tap on the pitch when we go out for the day. Also the pump in the van.

 

[chrisn7]

There is a further option you can exploit if you have on onboard tank. Use the Aquasource to fill the tank, then use the onboard pump in the usual way to supply the water. This gives you the convenience of easy fill, without the flow problems.

 

[ProfJohnL]

Hi

SBS in his comment to me has clarified his system. he has an inboard tank and he only uses the Aquasource to fill the tank which is the same as chris is suggesting. This is the equivalent of having an external Aquaroll with a float valve/Aquasource cnnected to it.

So in practice the pump is not directly in line with the Aquasource so my rreference to restricted flow does not apply.