Do I disconnect Leisure battery from Solar panel?

Jan 13, 2016
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Hi All,
Just realised I've posted in the wrong topic so re-posting here.
Sorry.

This might have been covered but all I can find is leisure battery and hook up in storage.
My question is should I disconnect my Leisure battery from the Solar panel/ Control unit when Its not being used? The control unit is set to trickle charge the unit to 12.8v

Also the engine battery is on a Ring solar maintainer panel should this be disconnected?

Thanks for any info Stu_B
 

Kate Taylor

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Hi Stu,
Thanks for asking this interesting question. I'm afraid I don't have a quick answer right now, but I have just deleted your duplicate post so that any replies from our forum friends will all be in one place and easier for you to find.

It sounds as if you've got it all covered, with the trickle charger.

When you say your motorhome is in storage, is it under cover and therefore away from any possible solar top-ups?

Thanks,
Kate
 

gjh

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I've never heard of any requirement to disconnect either battery when the motorhome is not in use. If anything the reverse is true because the solar panel will top up any drain from items such as alarms but won't over-charge the batteries.
We certainly don't disconnect anything.

Graham
 
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Leave it hooked up !

We had solar panels fitted to our 686 to maintain both vehicle and leisure batteries when in storage. This time of year the sun is weak and low in the sky, our 100W panels only manage about 25-30W average charge (2.5 Aaverage).

The only drain is the vehicle alarm as we switch the Sargent unit off to prevent any other drain. The panels keep both batteries topped up nicely !

Hoping to get away next weekend, have not been out in it since October 1/2 term so have itchy feet.
 
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We would say that maybe you should think about disconnecting Solar Panels during Summer inactivity as there is growing evidence that batteries are being overcharged when not in long term use?
The damage/benefit depends on many factors from the batteries you use (their age, condition and technology), the Solar regulator and the Power distribution unit, etc.

Victron Energy have published a document that suggests batteries on Boats and Motorhomes are being prematurely aged when a long term 'charging' voltage is applied, when a 'maintenance' voltage would be more appropriate.

First of all can we explain what we think is the difference between charging a battery and maintaining a battery?
When you charge the Habitation area battery, and this applies to almost all Motorhome chargers, the requirement is to raise that batteries charge state.
When you 'maintain' a battery the requirement is to literally put in only what is being lost, no more, no less.

Motorhome Batteries are not designed to be permanently on charge. A modern quality battery, I don't mean a budget 'Leisure' battery, can hold it's charge for 6 months plus. That is a tiny, tiny drain and very different to batteries of 10 years ago when many of these charger units were conceived.
Therefore logic suggests that with such a quality modern battery, to put in any more power than the smallest amount, is going to lead to some measure of excess charging. That excess charging may be very small, or quite large depending on the factors above.

The majority of Motorhome Mains chargers and Solar regulators do not 'switch off' when a battery is up to charge, but drop down into a lower charging state, usually from say 14.4v to 13.8v. They are always charging the battery, albeit at a low rate.
Even when the battery does not want/need any charge they get some regardless.

The Victron Energy document suggests that a 13.8v maintenance voltage is too high, proposing 13.2v is a more ideal. Better still, says the document, remove all maintenance charge completely for a week or so then bring back up to full charge using a 'proper Charge' voltage, like 14.4v.
Other battery manufacturers, after seeing an increasing number of 'Dry' batteries, are suggesting the same.

In the Classic car world, cherished Cars stay wrapped up in the Garage from October to April. It has become common knowledge amongst these owners that leaving a battery on a 'charger' over Winter shortens it's life dramatically.
Classic car Folklore says to use a specialist battery maintainer, like the Optimate, that spends a lot of it's time 'inactive'. The Optimate 'maintains' at a low 13.2v, not the 13.8v of most Solar regulators. It actually switches off, yes physically drops any sort of charge, for half the time it is in maintenance mode.

To additionally support this emerging evidence, the new 2016 Schaudt Solar regulator ( LRM1218 AGM optimised version) has a maintenance voltage of just 13.4v when all previous Schaudt chargers have been around 13.8v. Not quite the 13.2v recommended by Victron Energy, but certainly a change from the norm.

Rumours suggest that from mid 2016 the lesser LR1218 Solar Reg will adopt a 13.2v maintenance voltage. We would suggest you will start to see other charger manufacturers following suit, both mains chargers and Solar chargers?

Therefore, if your battery is a little bit tired, so actually running down more than average, it's life may be extended by being left on charge, but keep an eye on that Acid Level.
Likewise if the battery bank is very large or there is the drain of an Alarm, leaving it on Solar might not do any harm, so long as the Solar Regulator does have very good charge control. Some don't.

Your battery might prefer some disconnection, if the charger :
a). has a higher maintenance output than 13.2v.
b). the battery is a very high efficiency unit.
c). the battery is 'Open Top' like some of the Banner 'wet' range,

We have found the Banner Energy Bull 'wet' acid range particularly prone to fluid loss when left on long term maintenance charge. Likewise the budget 'Leisure' batteries.

See the full text of the Victron energy document here : http://www.aandncaravanservices.co.uk/ehu-full-time-yes-or-no.php
The web page is primarily about long term EHU connection, but the same principal applies.
 

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