hi our friends have a Pageant Moselle and use a Galaxy 1.9 diesel to tow it but they say that they do not know that the van is there. Good luck Gary
"I can't put my finger on it ( well not here anyway or else it won't get printed!!)but there only seems to be one particular "class" of vehicle that has attracted the "rapid responce defence team" leap of faith".Oh dear, you've stirred the "chelsea" hornets nest there Ricky.
I can't put my finger on it ( well not here anyway or else it won't get printed!!)but there only seems to be one particular "class" of vehicle that has attracted the "rapid responce defence team" leap of faith.
Everyone has different perceptions of what is good or bad about anything and as ive said in the past "you can call me what you like, but never call me late for breakfast". I've had our 4 wheel chums and as my mum would say there's a place for everything and everything has it's place.
So I too find it strange that there seems to be plenty of the "tractors" parked outside the local school, and they always gleam with plenty of bling!!
For the moment you'll get away with running a 4 Litre V8 on gas and it may well beas cheap as a Passat on oil (diesel), but just wait until Gordon Brown has found a way to tax gas the same as petrol and you'll have the last laugh again!!
Even last night Clarkson tested the golf R32 against the BMW 130i and found that the golf was 4K cheaper and just as quick and further more, you could get 4 adults in it and not 2 stick insects in the back like the beemer. But of coarse the beemer has B for bling on it!!
Go with facts and information and a look at the running cost's and then you'll make the right choice. Often trying to be in the bling only cost's more for the same outcome.
Actually Lol, I've got no beef with anyone who owns a 4X4, as i've owned several myself."I can't put my finger on it ( well not here anyway or else it won't get printed!!)but there only seems to be one particular "class" of vehicle that has attracted the "rapid responce defence team" leap of faith".
Hmmm, if you prefer, we could start up the "Renaults avoid towing" group, RAT for short. That way the 4x4 owners will feel less victimised. I'm sure there are caravaner out there that could comment on such a thing, and if not, we will just have to make up a few statistics, to prove our point.
Sound familiar?
Steve, I too have nothing against 2 wheel drive (rear or front) or four wheel drive, I like them all and can argue each others case for them. What I don't like is the constant attack and defence that goes on in this forum, all it takes is a mild comment to set it off. However at the end of the day, you will always get someone that doesn't like your choice of tow car and highlights that fact. So I see no "End" to this one, the few that like to attack will always be answered by the few that feel they must defend. In my personal opinion, the off-roader/4x4 is the ultimate car for towing, for some very good reasons, but it's not "The Ultimate" car for exactly the same reasons."I can't put my finger on it ( well not here anyway or else it won't get printed!!)but there only seems to be one particular "class" of vehicle that has attracted the "rapid responce defence team" leap of faith".
Hmmm, if you prefer, we could start up the "Renaults avoid towing" group, RAT for short. That way the 4x4 owners will feel less victimised. I'm sure there are caravaner out there that could comment on such a thing, and if not, we will just have to make up a few statistics, to prove our point.
Sound familiar?
Well said StephenThe only problem associated with "chelsea tractors" is narrow mindedness by people like yourself who would insist on thinking that any car that has drive to all 4 wheels is a chelsea tractor and is just a fashion accesory.
As more sensible people know this isnt the case. The smaller 4x4's (x-trail,crv, sorento etc) are smaller (width and length) then many large family saloons (especially as people go for estates to increas the kerbweight). They are also, often put to a good use off road for peoples work or recreation.
Granted, many folk in towns/cities buy them to ship their little ones to school and no more and that is pure stupidity, but driving any child less than a mile to school in ANY car is plain stupidity, its quicker to walk!!
Point is, not all 4x4's are chelsea tractors.
Steve