why is it that when us welsh stay at english caravan sites many (not all)english fellow caravanners cannot pass the time of day with you in fact some seem quite rude and don`t even reply when you say good morning for example. when the english are visiting a welsh site they want to hold a conversation then why is this???
Don`t like the welsh??
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I think it must be in your mind Anthony. You will probably find that those same people treat all the same, just lifes miseries :O) Be thankful you were born in the happy camp and not the grumpy one ;O)
I'm English, and proud of it but I don't care if people are Scots, Welsh, Irish or Mongolian, I talk to all as I'm sure most English do. The only ones I have contempt for are those who show an hatred for us, people like Alex Salmond :O)
What I did find strange in your post Anthony is how do you know they are English if they never spoke to you?
I'm English, and proud of it but I don't care if people are Scots, Welsh, Irish or Mongolian, I talk to all as I'm sure most English do. The only ones I have contempt for are those who show an hatred for us, people like Alex Salmond :O)
What I did find strange in your post Anthony is how do you know they are English if they never spoke to you?
because they find a need to fly huge english flags to say where are from and its not just me as recently i was in dorset and spoke to a fellow welsh holiday maker and he said to me how nice it was to talk to someone as he had been there a week and nobody had spoken to him
Anthony proberbly the same reason some welsh start speeking in welsh when they hear english comming. Ive herd that twice in 2 different towns in wales. Ill talk to anybody me but I cant abide ignorance form english welsh or anybody else
Kevin H
Kevin H
i agree ignorance is untolerable and as i cant speak welsh that does not apply to me, some people also think its funny to put a welsh accent on when they do speak to you i dont put a brummie, cockney or northern accent on so why do they seem to take the mick out of us??
Coming from a mixed race marriage, my wife is Welsh; we always used to fly both the Welsh and English fags and never had a problem with anybody. You must have just been unlucky Anthony.
However I do relish the time in a PH in Llangollen that having gone to the bar and placed my order in a broad cockney accent that some lads at the bar said something in welsh, that was obviously derogatory, and the look on their face when my wife retaliated in their own language was really sweet!
However I do relish the time in a PH in Llangollen that having gone to the bar and placed my order in a broad cockney accent that some lads at the bar said something in welsh, that was obviously derogatory, and the look on their face when my wife retaliated in their own language was really sweet!
They don't come anymore patriotic than me for being English Anthony but I've never flown the cross of St. George at campsites and neither do I intend to. On that note though, living in Hereford close to the border, I have seen numerous Welsh flags flown, especially at rallies at Lucksall, just outside of Hereford. Does it bother me? No, it doesn't.
I do have the English flag on my car when we were playing in the World Cup etc. which reminds me of a post I made last year when at Berwick on Tweed. I drove to a town called Duns, just across the border but stupidly forgot to take my flags off. I had all kinds of gestures shown me as I drove, most of them involving the middle finger with the persons face pushed against the windscreen, grimacing full of hatred. It was only when we got to Duns that I realised I still had the flags on and that was the reason why I was being greeted by the natives in such a friendly way .... hehheh!
Now back to Kevs remark, I was visiting a friend who lived on Anglesey when we went into a pub in Caernarfon. Immediately we opened our mouth to ask the barman for our drinks the people propping the bar up went from English to Welsh. Again, did it bother me? No, it didn't, I just put it down to their ignorance but by that I didn't hold a grudge against the Welsh nation.
For the record I was born in Hereford but reared in a mining village in Nottinghamshire, where my father came from. I left there 45 years ago to come back to Hereford. Because I lived in Hereford for the first 5 years of my life since moving back I've lost my Notts accent although my brother and sisters still have it because they still live there. Now when I go back to Mansfield to visit my relatives people ask if I'm Welsh because as one landlady said, "you have a sing song voice".
So by that score I should also find that I'm discriminated against if people think I'm Welsh but I can honestly say I'm not.
Are you sure you're not pitched in the middle of the annual English National Party Rally ..... hehheh!
I do have the English flag on my car when we were playing in the World Cup etc. which reminds me of a post I made last year when at Berwick on Tweed. I drove to a town called Duns, just across the border but stupidly forgot to take my flags off. I had all kinds of gestures shown me as I drove, most of them involving the middle finger with the persons face pushed against the windscreen, grimacing full of hatred. It was only when we got to Duns that I realised I still had the flags on and that was the reason why I was being greeted by the natives in such a friendly way .... hehheh!
Now back to Kevs remark, I was visiting a friend who lived on Anglesey when we went into a pub in Caernarfon. Immediately we opened our mouth to ask the barman for our drinks the people propping the bar up went from English to Welsh. Again, did it bother me? No, it didn't, I just put it down to their ignorance but by that I didn't hold a grudge against the Welsh nation.
For the record I was born in Hereford but reared in a mining village in Nottinghamshire, where my father came from. I left there 45 years ago to come back to Hereford. Because I lived in Hereford for the first 5 years of my life since moving back I've lost my Notts accent although my brother and sisters still have it because they still live there. Now when I go back to Mansfield to visit my relatives people ask if I'm Welsh because as one landlady said, "you have a sing song voice".
So by that score I should also find that I'm discriminated against if people think I'm Welsh but I can honestly say I'm not.
Are you sure you're not pitched in the middle of the annual English National Party Rally ..... hehheh!
Don't worry about it. I am Scots and we are getting lots of 'stick' at the moment. However, I don't think it extends to not talking to me, it is usually the opposite as the English all want to tell me how lucky I am, and that they are subsidising me. I usually respond by stating they can all come north of the border, but better be quick as we are rebuilding the wall. Am I kidding?? Who knows??
I am currently in Hungary and if the Hungarians do not like you, they just totally ignore you. Can be fun in a restaurant.
As for the flags, get your own back by sticking a leek down your trousers, they will talk to you then.
Slainte
I am currently in Hungary and if the Hungarians do not like you, they just totally ignore you. Can be fun in a restaurant.
As for the flags, get your own back by sticking a leek down your trousers, they will talk to you then.
Slainte
Oh dear Anthony, me thinks you have camped next to Anne Robinson. She is well known for trying to take the micky out of the Welsh. I have never experienced it!
PS:
What do you call a Sheep tied to a Lampost in Cardiff......
........A Leasure Centre
smile, you're on candid camera
PS:
What do you call a Sheep tied to a Lampost in Cardiff......
........A Leasure Centre
smile, you're on candid camera
Fact 1 .... we are subsidising you.
Fact 2 .... theres no chance of us coming to live north of the border until you get rid of those %&"@?< midges, why do you think 50% of Scots live south of the border already, you don't see them rushing to get back ;O)
Fact 2 .... theres no chance of us coming to live north of the border until you get rid of those %&"@?< midges, why do you think 50% of Scots live south of the border already, you don't see them rushing to get back ;O)
Fact 3, keep subsidising us, we are officially defined as an ethnic minority so we need it.
Fact 4, the midges only live west of the Highlands and enjoy English beef. Have not seen one in years.
Fact 5, 50% of Scots are not in England, they are in other parts of the world enjoying sunshine, all 20 million of us.
Fact 6, isn't it fun???
Did you have a good holiday as I seem to recall you mentioning that you were travelling? We returned home for 3 weeks in July, it rained and was b...y cold for the 2 weeks we suffered and then escaped to Mallorca for the 3rd. Have not moved the van one inch this year, and not likely to.
Fact 4, the midges only live west of the Highlands and enjoy English beef. Have not seen one in years.
Fact 5, 50% of Scots are not in England, they are in other parts of the world enjoying sunshine, all 20 million of us.
Fact 6, isn't it fun???
Did you have a good holiday as I seem to recall you mentioning that you were travelling? We returned home for 3 weeks in July, it rained and was b...y cold for the 2 weeks we suffered and then escaped to Mallorca for the 3rd. Have not moved the van one inch this year, and not likely to.
looks like i`ve stirred something up here but the point is as you can all see, all nationalities have a go at each other WHY?? we are all british (at least at the moment)i have no need to fly a flag if so why not all fly a union jack but you dont see many of them
Yes thank you SL, we had a great time with a deserted beach about 20 yards away with a calm, tepid sea. We had wall to wall sunshine for 10 days with the temp. around 23/25c. Where was this deserted place? Carradale Bay, Kintyre.
If only those bloody midges would have left me alone. After driving over 6 hours I was bu**ered when we arrived but Her Ladyship was adamant we should put the awning up that evening and the sods must have thought it was all their birthdays rolled into one. Annoying thing is though they don't bite her ... EVER
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If only those bloody midges would have left me alone. After driving over 6 hours I was bu**ered when we arrived but Her Ladyship was adamant we should put the awning up that evening and the sods must have thought it was all their birthdays rolled into one. Annoying thing is though they don't bite her ... EVER
(Being English we always used the Union Jack regardless of whether we were supporting an English, U.K. or G.B. sporting occasion but in recent years, and we have the Scots to thank for it and I'm not saying that sarcastically, the English are now beginning to find their own identity and patriotic pride. That is why theres not many Union Jacks seen now when England are playing but the Cross of St. George. As an Englishman I would always support and hope a home nation won through but ask a Scot who he would wish to win if say England were playing Iran :O) Why that is I don't know but could hazard a guess. You can't change a nations mentality or attitude to others when there are the likes of Alex Salmond spewing their hatred out, a fine role model he is. The sad part of it is he only has the backing of about 35% of the populace. Why don't they have a referendum? Because he knows he would lose, that's why.
My heart tells me we would be all better off together but my head tells me it's better to go our seperate ways. That way it will put an end to the unjust Barnett Formula where Scots are subsidised by around
My heart tells me we would be all better off together but my head tells me it's better to go our seperate ways. That way it will put an end to the unjust Barnett Formula where Scots are subsidised by around
we should be building bridges not walls unless its a case of rugby and thats just tradition but the welsh were always better at that then the english or scots but no longer i think, when it comes to football i always support england (not great britain)in any major championship because they are without argument the better home side
LB " Immediately we opened our mouth to ask the barman for our drinks the people propping the bar up went from English to Welsh. Again, did it bother me? No, it didn't, I just put it down to their ignorance but by that I didn't hold a grudge against the Welsh nation.
Can see why it didn't bother you, the conversation would have been about sheep, so you wouldn't want to be listening in about that boyo. Flags have only become an issue since the English started to fly the Flag of St George a lot more often. A few years ago if you happened to be Scottish, Irish or Welsh it was patriotic to fly your flag, for the English it's arrogance
Anthony,
Max Boyce has a lot to answer for IMHO, fancy your most ferverent rugby supporter dressing up as a leek, and then being expected to be taken seriously, I ask you.
Frank Val refuses to put her name to this.
Can see why it didn't bother you, the conversation would have been about sheep, so you wouldn't want to be listening in about that boyo. Flags have only become an issue since the English started to fly the Flag of St George a lot more often. A few years ago if you happened to be Scottish, Irish or Welsh it was patriotic to fly your flag, for the English it's arrogance
Anthony,
Max Boyce has a lot to answer for IMHO, fancy your most ferverent rugby supporter dressing up as a leek, and then being expected to be taken seriously, I ask you.
Frank Val refuses to put her name to this.
O.K. Anthony, I'm having a word with my contacts in the Upper House to see if I can get you a salaried position as a missionary to Scotland so as you can spread the good word about supporting England when they play ;O)
You will have your work cut out though and I don't hold out much hope for a successful result on your part ... hehheh!
I've also asked Her Ladyship to order you some Avon Skin So Soft to ward off those heathen midges.
You will have your work cut out though and I don't hold out much hope for a successful result on your part ... hehheh!
I've also asked Her Ladyship to order you some Avon Skin So Soft to ward off those heathen midges.
How can arrogance be compared to a pride in being English. Quite Frankly Frank you talk a load of tripe :O)
If you had been reading the newspapers you would have seen that Wee Alec has been very nice to everyone south of the border. None of them could be courteous enough to congratulate him on his election victory. And suprise surprise the country seems to be doing quite well and has not fallen apart. We now have debate and defeats for the ruling party, seems a long time (10 years in fact) since we last had that. Of course, it will not always go right, but at least it is a start.
As for flags, i ssupect you will not see too many in Scottish gardens, we don't need to remind ourselves of who we are. Yes, we would like to fly the Scottish flag on Edinburgh castle as we now own it.
Scottish Labour is 'crowning' Wendy Alexander, she the sister of wee Dougie, Brown's gofer. No contest of course, as that is too democratic. Seems familiar with the English version as well.
Methinks it is not so much nationalism that is the issue, just the fact that everybody is totally sick of New labour and we managed to get rid of them first.
As for flags, i ssupect you will not see too many in Scottish gardens, we don't need to remind ourselves of who we are. Yes, we would like to fly the Scottish flag on Edinburgh castle as we now own it.
Scottish Labour is 'crowning' Wendy Alexander, she the sister of wee Dougie, Brown's gofer. No contest of course, as that is too democratic. Seems familiar with the English version as well.
Methinks it is not so much nationalism that is the issue, just the fact that everybody is totally sick of New labour and we managed to get rid of them first.
frank what the heck are you going on the offensive for and i agree with LB you talk tripe whats max boyce got to do with caravanning you might as well bring roy chubby brown into the conversation
I am welsh and i see far more english flags on site than welsh flags, i dont buy into the whole England versus Wales culture, i am however welsh and proud but have no problem with the english, its not your fault you were born there.
I was in cornwall last year and popped into a pub at lunch time with my wife, as i stood at the bar ordering a drink the scruffy looking fisherman at the side of me commented to his mate "that theres too many bloody foreigners in here today" when i confronted him about his comment he denied ever saying it. there are always bad eggs in all countries, just dont rise to it.
Fly your flags with pride, i wont have one, they look rather tacky as far as i am concerned and lower the tone of a nice clean caravan.
I was in cornwall last year and popped into a pub at lunch time with my wife, as i stood at the bar ordering a drink the scruffy looking fisherman at the side of me commented to his mate "that theres too many bloody foreigners in here today" when i confronted him about his comment he denied ever saying it. there are always bad eggs in all countries, just dont rise to it.
Fly your flags with pride, i wont have one, they look rather tacky as far as i am concerned and lower the tone of a nice clean caravan.
LB " How can arrogance be compared to a pride in being English. Quite Frankly Frank you talk a load of tripe :O)"
You sir are a court jester, arrogance is how it is perceived by the others you know the Welsh the Scots and Irish.
( for court jester read clown ) And don't try to listen in to other peoples conversations and then get uppity when they thwart you by changing lanuages. -)))
Val & Frank
LB, Delighted you had a great holiday in Kintyre. I have not been there since 1967 when I was chatting up a girl who lived there, about halfway down on the west side. Well, I met her in Aberdeen and when she told me where she lived I had to look up the map. Unfortunately, love did not bloom and we parted, maybe just as well as I then met my wife and she has owned me for 35 years. But I do admit a beautiful place.
Maybe I had too many bad experiences as a child with holidays in Scotland that I tend to avoid them. 3 times out of 4 we came home early because of the rain and cold, and this was summer. I watched all these movies with hot sunny beaches and decided that was where I was going, and that is what I have done.
Maybe I had too many bad experiences as a child with holidays in Scotland that I tend to avoid them. 3 times out of 4 we came home early because of the rain and cold, and this was summer. I watched all these movies with hot sunny beaches and decided that was where I was going, and that is what I have done.
Anthony,
frank what the heck are you going on the offensive for and i agree with LB you talk tripe whats max boyce got to do with caravanning.
Nothing to do with caravanning, the same as you perceiving to be snubbed by the English is nothing to do with caravanning. See we can all talk tripe.
IMHO people like Max Boyce are one of the reasons people take the mick out of the welsh accent. Just look at the commercials on TV they all take the p**" out of the accent.
Frank
frank what the heck are you going on the offensive for and i agree with LB you talk tripe whats max boyce got to do with caravanning.
Nothing to do with caravanning, the same as you perceiving to be snubbed by the English is nothing to do with caravanning. See we can all talk tripe.
IMHO people like Max Boyce are one of the reasons people take the mick out of the welsh accent. Just look at the commercials on TV they all take the p**" out of the accent.
Frank
Frank I will post your reply beings you hid it among the comments
LB " How can arrogance be compared to a pride in being English. Quite Frankly Frank you talk a load of tripe :O)"
You sir are a court jester, arrogance is how it is perceived by the others you know the Welsh the Scots and Irish.
( for court jester read clown ) And don't try to listen in to other peoples conversations and then get uppity when they thwart you by changing lanuages. -)))
Val & Frank
Now read what Anthony said dear Frank, methinks you have egg on your face. We all know that dear Frank likes to be controversial but please, please Frank, at least give your posts some substance and reasoning then you might be successful at winding people up ;O)
Let me see, Sunday afternoon, hmmmm, looks like Franks at the vino again and not making sense. Try posting tomorrow me old mate when you're sober ;O) I'm afraid you're no competition when drunk ... hehheh!
LB " How can arrogance be compared to a pride in being English. Quite Frankly Frank you talk a load of tripe :O)"
You sir are a court jester, arrogance is how it is perceived by the others you know the Welsh the Scots and Irish.
( for court jester read clown ) And don't try to listen in to other peoples conversations and then get uppity when they thwart you by changing lanuages. -)))
Val & Frank
Now read what Anthony said dear Frank, methinks you have egg on your face. We all know that dear Frank likes to be controversial but please, please Frank, at least give your posts some substance and reasoning then you might be successful at winding people up ;O)
Let me see, Sunday afternoon, hmmmm, looks like Franks at the vino again and not making sense. Try posting tomorrow me old mate when you're sober ;O) I'm afraid you're no competition when drunk ... hehheh!
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