I am Scottish & proud of it. I do not have to fly a flag to show my patiotism. I also go on my summer hols to sites all over England and have had no problems conversing with anyone whether English, Welsh, Irish or whatever. Although I support the SNP, I keep it to myself. Why people want to slag each other off is beyond me. Live & let live is my motto.
Don`t like the welsh??
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LB, I did not particularly like Charles, but he did like to party (nice pun eh!) and what is wrong with that. I am sure they would be doing better if he was still in charge, at least the bar would.
Thing is he has nothing to do with the breed north of the border, and they are really something else. Even their leader has the record of the shortest period of time as an MP. He won a byelection when everyone had gone on holiday and as soon as the real one came around, the electorate dumped him.
Unfortunately the English have never seen them in their true light. We have. They are the nastiest people you would never wish to meet and are only interested in what they can get for themselves. Fortunately, they are now consigned to the dustbin for a very long time.
Thing is he has nothing to do with the breed north of the border, and they are really something else. Even their leader has the record of the shortest period of time as an MP. He won a byelection when everyone had gone on holiday and as soon as the real one came around, the electorate dumped him.
Unfortunately the English have never seen them in their true light. We have. They are the nastiest people you would never wish to meet and are only interested in what they can get for themselves. Fortunately, they are now consigned to the dustbin for a very long time.
Rob,
Polotics are an adversial sport, same as debating that's why it appears people are at each others throats.
Frank & Val
Polotics are an adversial sport, same as debating that's why it appears people are at each others throats.
Frank & Val
Hi
I'm English and proud of it, but I did vote SNP at the election, I suppose that makes me like a Lib Dem, because I voted SNP for what they promised. No Water Rates/50 % Council Tax for pensioners, Free tuition fees for my son, possible cancelling student debt for my other son and his wife. Who wouldn't vote for that ???
Frank & Val
I'm English and proud of it, but I did vote SNP at the election, I suppose that makes me like a Lib Dem, because I voted SNP for what they promised. No Water Rates/50 % Council Tax for pensioners, Free tuition fees for my son, possible cancelling student debt for my other son and his wife. Who wouldn't vote for that ???
Frank & Val
Lord B I uncovered my eyes and there it was 'hung drawn and quartered' the problem I have is that whilst my ancestor was HD&Q at the Tower for treason it was to help Mary Queen of Scots take over From Liz 1 so I suppose I should be on Franks side..................................but then again that would be like treason and an unintelligent thing to do!
I truly love the Welsh. What an accent.
Love so much recently returned from 3 weeks in Pembrokeshire and going for a week around Aberdovey on the 29th, brilliant
PeterW
Love so much recently returned from 3 weeks in Pembrokeshire and going for a week around Aberdovey on the 29th, brilliant
PeterW
Thanks to all the serious comments recieved (maureen), Frank give it a rest and LB do the same please
Anthony please try and keep up to speed mate, if you scroll you will see I haven't responded to Frank, or he to me, for almost 48 hours. If you don't keep up to speed and start casting aspersions about me it might cause me to develop, like the others you accuse, a severe case of Taffiphobia :O)
Dwi'n Gymraes, yn siarad Cymraeg ac yn mabwysadu pob peth sy'n gysylliedig a'n diwylliant, ein iaith a'n hanes. R'wyn falch o'r ffaith fy mod yn gallu siarad yr iaith ac fod hawl gennyf i wneud hynny. Ar un adeg nad oedd hawl gan y Gymraeg i siarad eu hiaith na dysgu darllen, heblaw mynd i'r ysgol. Cafwyd eu hysgoloriaeth drwy mynd i'r Capel a dysgu drwy'r Beibl. Tryst yw'r byd heddiw. Pam ni all mwy edrych nol mewn amser ac ystyried sut y byddai pe bawn nhw wedi eu genu mewn oesoedd felli. Beth byddent ar rhai o'r adegion ymma, carafanwyr neu sipswn? Rhywbeth i'w feddwl amdano. Mae'r gwr yn Gymro, yn anfodus dydi o ddim yn siarad yr iaith, ydw i yn siarad Cymraeg iddo? Cofiwch hefyd, mae'r mwyafrif o ni yn teithio er mwyn mwynhau mannau gwahanol, diwylltiannu lleol a'u phobl. Os rydych am glywed pobl yn siarad eich iaith eich hyn yn unnig, arhoswch yn eich gwlad eich hyn.
I am Welsh, I speak Welsh and embrace everything associated with my Welsh culture, language and history. I'm very proud of the fact that I can speak Welsh and that I have the right to do so. At one time we were not allowed to speak Welsh, learn to read let alone go to school. At that time education was taught in Chapels through the Bible. Its a sad world today. Pity more of us can't look back in time and wonder what kind of life we would be living then. What would we be, carvanners or gypsies? Something to think about. Hubby is Welsh but unfortunately he doesn't speak Welsh, but do I only speak Welsh to him? Remember, the majority of us travel around to see differnt places, enjoy different cultures and the people. If you only want to hear the tongue of your own country then you should stay there.
My motto has always been:
Un byd, un bywyd, sawl cyfle(?) which can translate as:
One world, one life, many opportunities or
One world, one life, how many opportunities?
Such is the beauty of the Welsh language, its meaning can change with the inflection of the tone.
Make the most of it and don't join the rest of the sad b######
Mwynhewch
Sian
I am Welsh, I speak Welsh and embrace everything associated with my Welsh culture, language and history. I'm very proud of the fact that I can speak Welsh and that I have the right to do so. At one time we were not allowed to speak Welsh, learn to read let alone go to school. At that time education was taught in Chapels through the Bible. Its a sad world today. Pity more of us can't look back in time and wonder what kind of life we would be living then. What would we be, carvanners or gypsies? Something to think about. Hubby is Welsh but unfortunately he doesn't speak Welsh, but do I only speak Welsh to him? Remember, the majority of us travel around to see differnt places, enjoy different cultures and the people. If you only want to hear the tongue of your own country then you should stay there.
My motto has always been:
Un byd, un bywyd, sawl cyfle(?) which can translate as:
One world, one life, many opportunities or
One world, one life, how many opportunities?
Such is the beauty of the Welsh language, its meaning can change with the inflection of the tone.
Make the most of it and don't join the rest of the sad b######
Mwynhewch
Sian
Frank give it a rest and LB do the same please
That Anthony is a little weak, what part of Wales did you say you are from ??.
It is light hearted banter, but boyo it's hard in here see!!!
Val 100 % Welsh, Frank 100 % English & our two boys 50/50 English/Welsh. Our Daughter in Law 100 % Scottish, Our Grandaughter who must be 50 % Scottish and 25 % English and Welsh. We all send our love to the poor Welsh boyo who thinks he's hard done by Boo Hoo
That Anthony is a little weak, what part of Wales did you say you are from ??.
It is light hearted banter, but boyo it's hard in here see!!!
Val 100 % Welsh, Frank 100 % English & our two boys 50/50 English/Welsh. Our Daughter in Law 100 % Scottish, Our Grandaughter who must be 50 % Scottish and 25 % English and Welsh. We all send our love to the poor Welsh boyo who thinks he's hard done by Boo Hoo
Sian,
So very well put, and that's not being condesending. My two nieces go to Welsh School in Church Village.
We have two grog shop sheep on our kitchen windowsil
" Wales is OK if you like Foreigners "
" Keep England Tidy throw your Litter in Wales"
Val & Frank
So very well put, and that's not being condesending. My two nieces go to Welsh School in Church Village.
We have two grog shop sheep on our kitchen windowsil
" Wales is OK if you like Foreigners "
" Keep England Tidy throw your Litter in Wales"
Val & Frank
Sian, im very pleased for you that you can speak more than 1 language, i only wish i could speak more than 1.
Now my point about people speaking in welsh was not the fact they spoke in their language, the point was when they hear an english person they turn to speaking welsh from english. Before you get uptight about the comments I did say in my post it had happened to me twice, I did however spend alot of time working west of the bridge and found it to be very friendly on the whole.
I was responding to a welsh mans point about being egnored whilst on english campsites, thats all not having a go about the welsh, or frank whos english and lives north of the border
keep it in context
Kevin H
Now my point about people speaking in welsh was not the fact they spoke in their language, the point was when they hear an english person they turn to speaking welsh from english. Before you get uptight about the comments I did say in my post it had happened to me twice, I did however spend alot of time working west of the bridge and found it to be very friendly on the whole.
I was responding to a welsh mans point about being egnored whilst on english campsites, thats all not having a go about the welsh, or frank whos english and lives north of the border
keep it in context
Kevin H
Kevin H
quote "the point was when they hear an english person they turn to speaking welsh from english."end of quote
That's because they are talking about Mr Jones carrying on with Mrs Williams, and they don't want to share the juicy bits with a stranger !!that's all it's about.
Val & Frank.
Still getting over being hit with a soggy wet leek from Anthony -)
quote "the point was when they hear an english person they turn to speaking welsh from english."end of quote
That's because they are talking about Mr Jones carrying on with Mrs Williams, and they don't want to share the juicy bits with a stranger !!that's all it's about.
Val & Frank.
Still getting over being hit with a soggy wet leek from Anthony -)
Sian wrote "Such is the beauty of the Welsh language, its meaning can change with the inflection of the tone."
I can understand that,
My wife who is from Ynysybwl can say Sugar with more venom that I can tell someone to go away, and that's in the English version of Welsh ( now that could be a real debate ) A people who the majority of, do not speak the lanuage of the country.
head down
Val & Frank
I can understand that,
My wife who is from Ynysybwl can say Sugar with more venom that I can tell someone to go away, and that's in the English version of Welsh ( now that could be a real debate ) A people who the majority of, do not speak the lanuage of the country.
head down
Val & Frank
Lord Brakewynde,
My Lordship I read a lot of your comments within this forum and would like to put you up for a seat in the House of Lords where I am quite sure you would educate those old f**ts and maybe drive a few of them out.
By the way if you do have a wynd problem charcoal tablets are very good.Jim
My Lordship I read a lot of your comments within this forum and would like to put you up for a seat in the House of Lords where I am quite sure you would educate those old f**ts and maybe drive a few of them out.
By the way if you do have a wynd problem charcoal tablets are very good.Jim
Thank you Jim but rather than try to educate them I'd like to see it abolished :O)
With regards to my constitution, yes, I do suffer from the bottyburps but it does have it's compensations by keeping Her Ladyship on her side of the bed.
While on this rather touchy subject of flattulence why is it that by eating nuts gives me a guaranteed attack of the bottyburps yet you never hear squirrels swinging through the trees letting rent their rear ends. Just a thought to ponder on ;O)
With regards to my constitution, yes, I do suffer from the bottyburps but it does have it's compensations by keeping Her Ladyship on her side of the bed.
While on this rather touchy subject of flattulence why is it that by eating nuts gives me a guaranteed attack of the bottyburps yet you never hear squirrels swinging through the trees letting rent their rear ends. Just a thought to ponder on ;O)
Niether have we on commercial campsites, even I admit a bit cras. We used to camp in support of our hobby on what I suppose would be the equivalent of a rally site.They don't come anymore patriotic than me for being English Anthony but I've never flown the cross of St. George at campsites and neither do I intend to. On that note though, living in Hereford close to the border, I have seen numerous Welsh flags flown, especially at rallies at Lucksall, just outside of Hereford. Does it bother me? No, it doesn't.
I do have the English flag on my car when we were playing in the World Cup etc. which reminds me of a post I made last year when at Berwick on Tweed. I drove to a town called Duns, just across the border but stupidly forgot to take my flags off. I had all kinds of gestures shown me as I drove, most of them involving the middle finger with the persons face pushed against the windscreen, grimacing full of hatred. It was only when we got to Duns that I realised I still had the flags on and that was the reason why I was being greeted by the natives in such a friendly way .... hehheh!
Now back to Kevs remark, I was visiting a friend who lived on Anglesey when we went into a pub in Caernarfon. Immediately we opened our mouth to ask the barman for our drinks the people propping the bar up went from English to Welsh. Again, did it bother me? No, it didn't, I just put it down to their ignorance but by that I didn't hold a grudge against the Welsh nation.
For the record I was born in Hereford but reared in a mining village in Nottinghamshire, where my father came from. I left there 45 years ago to come back to Hereford. Because I lived in Hereford for the first 5 years of my life since moving back I've lost my Notts accent although my brother and sisters still have it because they still live there. Now when I go back to Mansfield to visit my relatives people ask if I'm Welsh because as one landlady said, "you have a sing song voice".
So by that score I should also find that I'm discriminated against if people think I'm Welsh but I can honestly say I'm not.
Are you sure you're not pitched in the middle of the annual English National Party Rally ..... hehheh!
Are you sure ? You used to be able to especially mid and north wales.Only trouble is in wales you cant get a pint of Banks's
I was actually born in a Banks's pub. My parents had been with Wolverhampton & Dudley Breweries (Banks's & Hansons) since 1953 up until they retired in 1989. And in total that was only four pubs.
Just thought I would add that.
PeterW
Being English we always used the Union Jack regardless of whether we were supporting an English, U.K. or G.B. sporting occasion but in recent years, and we have the Scots to thank for it and I'm not saying that sarcastically, the English are now beginning to find their own identity and patriotic pride. That is why theres not many Union Jacks seen now when England are playing but the Cross of St. George. As an Englishman I would always support and hope a home nation won through but ask a Scot who he would wish to win if say England were playing Iran :O) Why that is I don't know but could hazard a guess. You can't change a nations mentality or attitude to others when there are the likes of Alex Salmond spewing their hatred out, a fine role model he is. The sad part of it is he only has the backing of about 35% of the populace. Why don't they have a referendum? Because he knows he would lose, that's why.
My heart tells me we would be all better off together but my head tells me it's better to go our seperate ways. That way it will put an end to the unjust Barnett Formula where Scots are subsidised by around
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