any suggestions on use of aqua source to fill an onboard tank - seems very expensive. is it possible to use an ordinary hose pipe?
regards
eddie
regards
eddie
filling onboard tanks
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Eddie,
Do you want to drink or cook with the water? If yes - then you must use food grade tubing, unless you like the taste of hose pipe plasticisers that cause sex changes in fish.
Still that might make for interesting times in the shower block
Food grade tubing won't taint, add or subtract anything to the water flowing through the pipe.
If you are only going to use the water for washing - then fine.
Robert
Do you want to drink or cook with the water? If yes - then you must use food grade tubing, unless you like the taste of hose pipe plasticisers that cause sex changes in fish.
Still that might make for interesting times in the shower block
Food grade tubing won't taint, add or subtract anything to the water flowing through the pipe.
If you are only going to use the water for washing - then fine.
Robert
Hi Eddie
The Aquasource works fine for filling your onboard tank-this is probably the best use for it! The unit does not work satisfactorily when used as a direct supply to the van due to the action of the pressure reducing valve inside the connector block.
The tubing does however collapse into quite a compact package which is handy
The Aquasource works fine for filling your onboard tank-this is probably the best use for it! The unit does not work satisfactorily when used as a direct supply to the van due to the action of the pressure reducing valve inside the connector block.
The tubing does however collapse into quite a compact package which is handy
On our Bailey we have an external pump and i fill the on board tank from the Aqua roll, dont all caravans with on board tanks have this.
Wayne the current Bailey Senator range has the infamous lever(under a bed locker) system for tank filling that gives the choice of tank fill/water from tank to taps/water direct from aqua source etc/water from aquaroll.
Its a humbug and I have fitted an external pump as before so that we use the water from the tank but can refill at the throw of a switch from the aquaroll when the low level light comes on.
I have used good quality garden hose for tank filling for many years with no taste or problems causing me to want to swim upstream and spawn.(well not yet!)
The aqua source pressure reducer is good when filling the tank as the reduced pressure avoids mains pressure filling the tank faster than the overflow can overflow.
This can lift the lid of the round inspection hatch and flood inside the caravan!!
I have met several new Bailey owners who don't use the tank at all but then the choice is there if required.
Its a humbug and I have fitted an external pump as before so that we use the water from the tank but can refill at the throw of a switch from the aquaroll when the low level light comes on.
I have used good quality garden hose for tank filling for many years with no taste or problems causing me to want to swim upstream and spawn.(well not yet!)
The aqua source pressure reducer is good when filling the tank as the reduced pressure avoids mains pressure filling the tank faster than the overflow can overflow.
This can lift the lid of the round inspection hatch and flood inside the caravan!!
I have met several new Bailey owners who don't use the tank at all but then the choice is there if required.
John, you have raised an intresting point about on board water tanks, regarding the inspection cap leaking because of pressure.Has any other Foram members had simular problems with onboard tanks?.
We use an aqua roll, but keep the drinking water seperate in a container inside the caravan, in case there is some contamination in the aqua roll that we dont know about.
Robert I have had it on 2 different tanks fitted with a similar cap.
The water pressure from the mains raises the cap off the O-ring and it can then leak.
That is why when I fitted a tank to a series of vans I had them underneath
The water pressure from the mains raises the cap off the O-ring and it can then leak.
That is why when I fitted a tank to a series of vans I had them underneath
Am I alone in liking the onboard tank and filling system in the current Bailey Senators? I fill our Oklahoma's tank from the Aquaroll whose capacity is slightly less than the onboard tank so water escaping from the inspection hatch should not be an issue. I can't believe any water would get past my hatch cover as it is really well screwed down.
Lastly, regarding the pump noise. I posted elsewhere that I don't think the pump is noisy but it is a different noise compared with the external pump which Bailey previously used. That external pump made a serious whining noise, especially when the Aquaroll emptied but the inboard pump is a deeper noise though, as I say, i don't find it obtrusive.
Lastly, regarding the pump noise. I posted elsewhere that I don't think the pump is noisy but it is a different noise compared with the external pump which Bailey previously used. That external pump made a serious whining noise, especially when the Aquaroll emptied but the inboard pump is a deeper noise though, as I say, i don't find it obtrusive.
Hi Malcolm
I use the same method as you on site and have a pump timer so that when I switch on my modified external pump it switches off when the aquaroll is almost empty.
The question was about using the aquasource that is why the advantage of it relative to the non lifting of the inspection cover was raised.
I too really like having and inboard tank but not the lever arrangment which involves moving seat cushions(possibly mid shower) to refill the tank from the aquaroll etc.
I use the same method as you on site and have a pump timer so that when I switch on my modified external pump it switches off when the aquaroll is almost empty.
The question was about using the aquasource that is why the advantage of it relative to the non lifting of the inspection cover was raised.
I too really like having and inboard tank but not the lever arrangment which involves moving seat cushions(possibly mid shower) to refill the tank from the aquaroll etc.
Hi JohnG,
I suspect Bailey have made some changes to the water pump location in the Senator. I think it used to be under the corner seat cushion i.e. between the front drawer unit and the offside wall so the square corner cushion would need to be lifted, but on our '07 Oklahoma, the onboard tank is in that area and the pump can be easily accessed from the front of the bed locker. No need to move seat cushions now. Also has the advantage that the front unit again consists of two drawers and a locker (ideal for shoes, trainers etc)
I suspect Bailey have made some changes to the water pump location in the Senator. I think it used to be under the corner seat cushion i.e. between the front drawer unit and the offside wall so the square corner cushion would need to be lifted, but on our '07 Oklahoma, the onboard tank is in that area and the pump can be easily accessed from the front of the bed locker. No need to move seat cushions now. Also has the advantage that the front unit again consists of two drawers and a locker (ideal for shoes, trainers etc)
Hi John
I am interested to know more about your external pump modification as we are not fans of the lever system, in my view it is the only bit of our Senator that is not better than our previous Abbey, on the Abbey we had a switch inside the door that filled the tank from the aquaroll, or you could draw direct from the aquaroll to the taps if the switch was off, gave the best of both worlds, the Senator lever system just doesn't work for us.
I am interested to know more about your external pump modification as we are not fans of the lever system, in my view it is the only bit of our Senator that is not better than our previous Abbey, on the Abbey we had a switch inside the door that filled the tank from the aquaroll, or you could draw direct from the aquaroll to the taps if the switch was off, gave the best of both worlds, the Senator lever system just doesn't work for us.
Malcolm that is very interesting .
In our 2006 Oklahoma the tank is central under the drawer unit and the pump/levers as you describe in the front corner
Keith all that I have done is to fit the 12V terminals into the existing pump housing and I now have a whale pump outside to fill the tank via an extra pipe that goes from the pump outlet to another hole in the tank top alongside the original.
I purchaesed the whole pump socket assembly but found that the 12V terminals could easily be transferred and so avoid breaking the existing seal to the van body
The original water feed to taps from the tank is used with the existing lever position for tank to taps supply
The new external pump is switched using the switch on the control panel for the nod disconnected front locker light via a relay to give better voltage at the pump and reduce load on the switch contacts.
Hope that helps
In our 2006 Oklahoma the tank is central under the drawer unit and the pump/levers as you describe in the front corner
Keith all that I have done is to fit the 12V terminals into the existing pump housing and I now have a whale pump outside to fill the tank via an extra pipe that goes from the pump outlet to another hole in the tank top alongside the original.
I purchaesed the whole pump socket assembly but found that the 12V terminals could easily be transferred and so avoid breaking the existing seal to the van body
The original water feed to taps from the tank is used with the existing lever position for tank to taps supply
The new external pump is switched using the switch on the control panel for the nod disconnected front locker light via a relay to give better voltage at the pump and reduce load on the switch contacts.
Hope that helps
What very complicated systems!
Not having a shower fitted, and no hot water system, the water container just has a hose to a footpump that supplies the kitchen sink tap.
There was an electic pump, but I took it out as redundant.
On the question of hose, I doubt if it makes much difference using garden hose to fill up, as the water is in transit for such a short time, but it is not suitable for onboard piping, where the water may sit in contact with the plastic for quite some time.
I doubt if the cheap or dear garden hose matters - indeed the cheap is usually less flexible, so perhaps it has less of the dodgy chemicals in it?
Not having a shower fitted, and no hot water system, the water container just has a hose to a footpump that supplies the kitchen sink tap.
There was an electic pump, but I took it out as redundant.
On the question of hose, I doubt if it makes much difference using garden hose to fill up, as the water is in transit for such a short time, but it is not suitable for onboard piping, where the water may sit in contact with the plastic for quite some time.
I doubt if the cheap or dear garden hose matters - indeed the cheap is usually less flexible, so perhaps it has less of the dodgy chemicals in it?
OF
I bought my hose in 1972 with a 10 year warranty and so dear has worked out cheap----if you know what I mean !!!
I also have pack flat hoses coloured green and red but the water tastes the same.
Our first camper (Martin Walter Dormobile) had two 4 gallon water containers and you had to lift them to the sink .
None of you feather bedding with pumps etc !!
I bought my hose in 1972 with a 10 year warranty and so dear has worked out cheap----if you know what I mean !!!
I also have pack flat hoses coloured green and red but the water tastes the same.
Our first camper (Martin Walter Dormobile) had two 4 gallon water containers and you had to lift them to the sink .
None of you feather bedding with pumps etc !!
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