First time caravan user

Feb 22, 2007
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Myself and my wife want to buy either a secondhand caravan or a new caravan.It needs to be small because I do not want to tow anything too large. I have been told either Lunar Arriva or Eriba are the best to buy. Can anyone advice me what would be the best model to purchase.I have never had a caravan in my life so I am very wary about towing so it needs to handle well yet still give us the best possible comfort for the money?

Grateful for any advice? Peter
 
Dec 16, 2003
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It might be an idea to know what tow car you intend to use.

If you have the tow car go to http://www.whattowcar.com/ for an idea of what will suit your car.

It's actually easier to tow a larger caravan than a small in many ways including reversing.

Personally I would never touch a Lunar as I know of two many that have had bad problems all though some here swear by them.

If you put a call out for Rob-jax he is our Eriba expert.

Try and spend some time in some caravans and imagine how you will use them and live and work with them.

We have had two caravans before that the previous owners hardly ever used as they had bought with little thought and no experience.

A small compact van maybe OK, but in practice sat in a wet field clambering past one another may not make for a relaxed break. So give your choice some careul though especially if you intend to buy new.
 
Nov 26, 2006
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If you have no experience of caravanning, you will have difficulty working out what is the best layout for you.

Start by finding out what size of van your car can tow, then go to a couple of big local dealers, new and secondhand, and look at all the vans that fall within your spec.

Sit in each one for a while and think what it would be like living in it for a fortnight - cooking, cleaning, eating, watching TV, whatever.

You will soon realise that there are a range of standard layouts, and be able to narrow down the possibilites.

There are companies who will hire you a touring caravan, and if you are thinking of spending a lot of money, this could be a good way of trying out the layout you think you want. And this time of year is good for this - cheaper rates, and a better test of how you get on (anybody can have a good time in almost any van on a lovely August weekend).
 
Dec 16, 2003
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Following on from Oldfogey's points. Our first caravan was gifted to us and the second we had long term use of. We had no choice in the layouts and thought the first van was brilliant at first and then changed our mind very quickly, my parents bought the second as they had fallen out of love with the first and then gave it to us.

We found the dining table that only had a leg at one end and a hook strip at the window end a major nuisance for us, and ended up on the second trip out throwing it away and buying a free standing table.

Along with O F , time in a van is well worth it before you buy. A good second hand van maybe the way to go before you settle for a nice new one that you then know due to personal experience will suit your needs.
 
Sep 13, 2006
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I agree with OF and Chris

We started in an old s/hand van before changing to a new one and it was a good decision -several reasons.

Until you have a season under your belt you do not know if you are really going to like caravanning and towing.

If you do you may not have even decided if you have a preference for commercial/CC sites, rallies or CLs and if you like rallies and CLs the bathroom will become more important.

You may not like making beds up every night.

and many more...

I would recommend a cheap van that meets your immediate needs before going for a more expensive or new one later.
 
Jul 15, 2005
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Hi Peter,

I'll try to speak for the Eriba Touring owners; designed by an aircraft designer in the 50's they are unlike any other caravan - aerodynamic, lightweight, superb build quality, ultra strong construction and with a life expectancy three or four times that of a UK caravan - they hold their value very well.

But you need to see one in the "flesh" - and either you'll fall in love with these cute Touring caravans or decide they are not for you.

For two people, a 3-berth Triton (which would give you two fixed single beds and a two person dinette) would be a good starting point. And can be towed by any family saloon / hatchback - VW Golf TDI for instance. Bigger, more powerful car - even better.

If you want to look inside an Eriba - take a look at the For Sale pages on http://www.eriba-amiga.co.uk/pre_forsale.html

Regards, Robert
 
Jan 3, 2007
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Peter...I'm sure most caravanners would agree that we all love our hobby but at the same time we like to be individual and have different caravanning needs. Many of us started off on a shoestring budget and bought a used van (my first van was a few years old and full of damp) but it was cheap. The most important aspect is that until you have tried it you really don't know if caravanning is for you and your partner/family also have to be just as enthusiastic as you are for it to work.

As others have suggested, buy secondhand, ensure you tow within the limits of your tow car and follow the sensible 85% rule. Also, often if you buy second hand you can sometimes get a package that could include awning, gas bottles, water carries which all cost a lot if you go out and buy them new. Some dealers will include a starter pack in a deal so ask.

Don't try to tow too far for your first few trips out and above all give yourself plenty of time to get where you are going and to set up on site without having to rush. A good towing course run by one of the caravan clubs is also good advise.

Finally, if you get stuck on site you will always find someone who is willing to help and advise. We have all been there at one time or another! We are usually an amicable bunch.

Happy caravanning, Mal
 
Nov 19, 2006
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I know someone has mentioned the Eriba. We looked at one but the bed is short.Its very well built. You might want to look at a T@B made by Tabbert. Its sort of retro and very funky and you can choose your trim colour etc. If you go to www.springbankleisure.com they supply them. They work out a lot cheaper than the Eriba and are only 550kg and can be towed by a 600cc car.Also try www.tabme.de for the German website (its in English)
 
Feb 22, 2007
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Dear Rob and Chris,

Can I thank you for your comments they are really useful.I drive a Mitsubishi Spacewagon which is quite a big vehicle 2 litre so I think it would tow an Eriba. I saw an Eriba on holiday a few years ago in France when we stopped in a static caravan and they looked cute. Because my children are now grown up we are really looking at a two berth van.I looked on the Lunar site and found an Arriva which had a good layout, they looked clean and functional and new were quite cheap. From what you said Chris they are not such an attractive buy??However, I do not want to be put off caravanning and want to buy the best quality for the money.We are reluctant to buy too old because of the wear and tear and cleanliness, so I have thought of new or nearly new. I do not think I could buy and old van! Maybe it is better to buy new and if we don't like caravanning we could always sell it after a year or two? From what you have said Rob I am warming to the Eriba, it looks good quality, but do they provide the same level of comfort and facilities of English vans. I am really grateful for your advice 'cos I know if I went to a dealer they would try and flog me something which might not always be want we would want??

Thanks Peter
 
Dec 16, 2003
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Good luck with your quest Peter.

Our last Bailey had been used 3 times when we bought it and still had the carpet delivery covers and manufacturers stickers everywhere. The owner husband and wife just could not get on together when caravanning despite beinf long time married !

We got a bargain but they lost a small fortune!

Our previous Bessacarr had only done the one full season and the owners decided it was the wrong van for them so that was a bargain buy in show room condition. Good buys are out there so have a good look around.
 
Feb 22, 2007
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Good luck with your quest Peter.

Our last Bailey had been used 3 times when we bought it and still had the carpet delivery covers and manufacturers stickers everywhere. The owner husband and wife just could not get on together when caravanning despite beinf long time married !

We got a bargain but they lost a small fortune!

Our previous Bessacarr had only done the one full season and the owners decided it was the wrong van for them so that was a bargain buy in show room condition. Good buys are out there so have a good look around.
Hi Cris,

Thanks for your reply. How did you go about finding such superb bargains, did you use the internet or search locally?And am I better off not looking at any Lunar Arrivas?I do not want to buy something that is not reliable!Particularly since it will be my first caravan

Thanks Peter
 
Dec 16, 2003
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There are a few happy Lunar owners here who may put out a "hit" on me ;-0

To many they are know as "Leaky Lunars", we are a caravanning family and are in family doer upper has had more than his fill of fixing Lunars I'm afraid and friend shave had their lovely lunars spring leaks and rot away!

Are Bessacarr was in a write of on loan to sister inlaw and had been a trade in and I just happened to be in the dealers when it came in with the owners.

The replacement Bailey we bought privately after spending two weeks scouring the internet and visiting dealers that seemed to have a lot of tat! We did a 4 or five times a day interne search and found a new ad on the Auto Trader web site for the bailey we bought. The owners could have sold it twenty times over. If it sounds good you have to drop everything and run to see it. Dealers make huge mark ups on many used vans so owners sell privately. 2k less than you pay a dealer to a private buyer may still be one hell of lot more than the dealer offered them to take the van off their hands !
 
Oct 27, 2005
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Don't let Chris put you off. We have a 2005 Lunar and are very happy with it. Maybe its the older ones that gained the reputation. All I can say is that you hear a lot of complaints about MOST vans on this forum not just Lunars. In the CC mag this months I was looking at the ads for second hand vans and there are 12 Lunars for sale and 40 Baileys! Does that mean that people prefer to hold on to their Lunars?
 
Dec 16, 2003
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Denise.

I have said that many love their Lunars. Bailey are a much bigger firm than Lunar and sell far more many vans so maybe that reflects on the numbers on sale and Lunars often poor reputation!
 
Feb 8, 2007
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First and foremost book yourself on to a good caravning course.

Its nice to have a nice caravan to enjoy, but it is also very important to know how to load it, tow it & reverse it & also the legal side to things.

Berty.......
 
Jul 15, 2005
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Peter,

Regarding the bed lengths in an Eriba - there are at least two lengths available - and I'll take our Eriba Triton 410 as an example:

In the "rear" of the Triton, there are two standard sized 6ft6 single beds which can also be made up as a 6ft6 by 6ft6 "square" King size bed. We have ours as two singles, then you can walk between them to the end locker.

Alternatively, you can buy the 410 (as the 418) with a double bed at the end - 5ft by 6ft6 - and you sleep across the van. If you don't know, it looks like that bed is short, but it's just turned through a right angle. This has a larger front dinette, but isn't as popular.

We bought a Triton 410 because we can leave the two single beds down all the time, and use the front dinette to eat, read, listen to music, etc.

Interior:

The Eriba is made from a cage of welded tubular steel tubing - so most people are surprised by the amount of usable space inside - there's no need for big lumps of chipboard to support the upper lockers and cupboards - they are bolted to the tubular steel frame.

This tubular steel frame is expensive to make, it has an impact on how the caravan is assembled, and consequently an Eriba is more expensive than you would expect - but excellent resale values and long life more than compensate.

The Eriba is probably the only caravan that is made how most people think a caravan is made - the frame is welded together, the aluminium body panels are fitted, the insulation and wall panels are fitted, and then the lockers, cooker, fridge are bolted to the walls. A UK caravan is made from the floor up - and the walls are screwed on last of all - much cheaper to make, but flawed from a strength and water ingress point of view.

Comfort and facilities:

Seating and bedding is either multi-density foam or sprung interior foam - on a slatted wood base. The original owner will have chosen from four pages of close typed options, or in the UK taken the easy way out and bought one of the factory packages.

The seating cushions (beds) are flat - no rolled edges - which means that the bed is perfectly flat and a great sleep. Firmer than UK caravan beds - I'd describe them as "orthopaedic" - and no buttons or other embellishments to get in the way of a good night's sleep.

Toilet / Washroom:

Depending on model, you can opt for just a toilet (which we did - and stay on serviced sites) or a toilet / washroom.

Cooking / heating:

Standard is a three burner gas hob, 3-way fridge and blown air Truma S3002 heating. A fitted oven is not an option - most Eriba owners will use a Remoska (the standard model from Lakeland).

The blown air trunking runs inside the caravan - making them especially good in the winter.

Insulation:

Rated for use down to -18
 
Jul 15, 2005
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Feedback on an Eriba - Part two

Corrections - the owner of Eriba UK is Mark Peursum (I hate this forum software where you can't edit your own postings)

Eriba have built 160,000+ caravans, but in the UK there is probably between 1000 and 2000 Eriba Touring caravans known to the owners group

Suggestion: Don't fall in love with the smallest Eriba - it's fine if you are young - but a Triton or Troll is probably more sensible.

Robert
 
Nov 19, 2006
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Feedback on an Eriba - Part two

Corrections - the owner of Eriba UK is Mark Peursum (I hate this forum software where you can't edit your own postings)

Eriba have built 160,000+ caravans, but in the UK there is probably between 1000 and 2000 Eriba Touring caravans known to the owners group

Suggestion: Don't fall in love with the smallest Eriba - it's fine if you are young - but a Triton or Troll is probably more sensible.

Robert
I note what has been said about the Eriba but although they may be good caravans they are not cheap. In fact there are plenty about which give good spec at a reasonable price.e.g. Adria Action. It all depends what you want. If its basics a bed, a burner and a fridge then the T@B by Tabbert is cheap. Its also german built and is as good quality as the Eriba and it is very light-550 kgs which means you can pull it with a Mini
 
Feb 22, 2007
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Hi Rob,

Thanks for your detailed comments on the Eriba.You certainly know your caravans.As I said to Chris given it will be our first caravan I do not want an old smelly one?? Chris has definitely put me off the Lunars.I think we will probably have to but new or nearly new.My wife would not take kindly to sleeping in a secondhand bed.As a first caravan I want it to smell clean!!!! I have looked on the Eriba website and they are starting to appeal to me even more. I like what you said about the better construction and quality than UK vans. We need one with a toilet, I would like it small for towing but not too small. What is the best Eriba I can buy new or nearly new bearing in mind it will just be myself and my wife. I have a Mitsubishi spacewagon which is quite big so it should tow one

Thanks again for your detailed comments and taking the time and effort to respond.I think I am going to enjoy caravanning, there appears to be a nice "buzz" and supportive group of people

Cheers Peter
 
Mar 16, 2006
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Hi Rob,

Thanks for your detailed comments on the Eriba.You certainly know your caravans.As I said to Chris given it will be our first caravan I do not want an old smelly one?? Chris has definitely put me off the Lunars.I think we will probably have to but new or nearly new.My wife would not take kindly to sleeping in a secondhand bed.As a first caravan I want it to smell clean!!!! I have looked on the Eriba website and they are starting to appeal to me even more. I like what you said about the better construction and quality than UK vans. We need one with a toilet, I would like it small for towing but not too small. What is the best Eriba I can buy new or nearly new bearing in mind it will just be myself and my wife. I have a Mitsubishi spacewagon which is quite big so it should tow one

Thanks again for your detailed comments and taking the time and effort to respond.I think I am going to enjoy caravanning, there appears to be a nice "buzz" and supportive group of people

Cheers Peter
Do not be put opff Lunars,we are on our second one.Present one being a Solaris 2.No problems with either
 

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