Flags and Ensigns?

Jun 3, 2005
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White, which is nice because it really goes with other other colours. We have a collection of table flags which we display on the rear window shelf, but what really I want to know is how to fix a small flagpole to the van so I can display my new Devon courtesy flag. Also are there any laws about this?

I don't really understand the relevance of your question.
 
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The most important thing is that the courtesy ensign should match the van, so I think a white ensign is probably best for you. Remember to take it down at sunset and raise it at sunrise.
 
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If you are lager lout driving a white delivery van (NOTE DELIVERY VAN - NOT A CARAVAN!!!)then I suppose you might fly that during some football competition, but it would be quite unsuitable for a touring caravan.

Does anyone have any SENSIBLE questions?
 
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When we go away we always raise the Red Dragon flag - hitch it to the jockey wheel attachment on a long pole. As a patriotic Welsh couple we have been doing this for many years and have no complaints from either the site owners/wardens or fellow campers. In fact on several occassions it has served as an ice breaker in making friendly conversation with other campers. We will continue to fly the flag and be proud of it. Incidently on the rear of the van there are also two Welsh stickers on the inside of the windows, wont stick anything on the body work. All I can say is fly your flag and be proud of it
 
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Thanks Colin. I've also got a long pole, but I've only ever stuck in the ground. And even then, only on special days.

But I like your idea - maybe I'll try it with plastic cable ties.

Do you only display your pole in Wales? I'm really keen to display my new Devon flag on mine.

On your final point, I'm not terribly struck on stickers, but find Blue-Tack works well for the table flags on the back shelf.
 
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Well working in the most historic port in the country - Chatham I 'm rather partial to a flag. My main observation often the Union Jack is hung incorrectly. yes it can be hung upside down.

Secondly obviously caravan'ers from the Isle of Man are rare but I have heard of one motorhomer who raised his Manx flag in southern Spain and nearly caused a riot as it was close to or replicates the Basque flag or rather that of some based Basque based terror group so be careful!!

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Got to the local sunday market and look for the fishing stall. Get the cheapest fishing pole (not rod) they have, these are light, telescopic and very strong. Fix the flag to that when you get on site and fix it to a frame or awning pole.

When I got mine, it cost me
 
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Sorry, and not meaning to offend anyone - what is it with flag flying? - What are you trying to say? - What do you achieve by flying flags?

I really cannot see the point IMHO.
 
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Thanks Colin. I've also got a long pole, but I've only ever stuck in the ground. And even then, only on special days.

But I like your idea - maybe I'll try it with plastic cable ties.

Do you only display your pole in Wales? I'm really keen to display my new Devon flag on mine.

On your final point, I'm not terribly struck on stickers, but find Blue-Tack works well for the table flags on the back shelf.
Being proud to be Welsh we fly our flag whenever we can, whether it be in any part of the U.K. or abroad. We flew it on one occasion in Britany and made wonderful friendship with both French and British caravaners
 
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Sorry, and not meaning to offend anyone - what is it with flag flying? - What are you trying to say? - What do you achieve by flying flags?

I really cannot see the point IMHO.
Wendy - I may be retired and not so quick on the uptake but I have seen IMHO and LoL on many postings on this forum - What do these abrieviations mean?
 
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we generally visit sites with at least two other vans from our family and up to 5 if friends come along too, we always fly our st george cross as we are proud to be english, the same way everybody should be proud of there country. generally we attach it to a pole on the a frame. we english need to be proud of our flag as there are so many trying to destroy it, i work on the railways and was recently warned that displaying the st george cross in any way whilst on duty would not be tolorated. now i'm not a member of the bnp and i most certainly do not agree with there policy, i am also not racist in any way having many asian collegues whom i am very friendly with, but banning my flag ? is that not the way to push me to change my views ?. fly your flag, whatever nation you originate from and be proud.
 
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I'm sorry, I don't go along with you there, Icemaker. To me, being proud of one's country is a very chauvinistic thing. Too many wars have happened because too many people were thinking they were better than others. With taking credit for other people's achievements I can only be proud of my own. After all, which country I was born or brought up in is pure chance - it's just where my parents happened to be at the time. To put things in perspective, I'm deeply grateful to have been brought up in a democracy and in a country where I can enjoy freedom, but proud? No.
 
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Lutz - In all the time this forum has been running this is the first time I must disagree with you - sorry about this. I would agree with Icemaker regarding flying the flag. It is not a case of being chauvinistic in any way. As we are now a multi-culteral nation we are purely showing our respect for our mother country. The world is now a far smaller place and I do not think that this act is no more than a friendly gesture and not an act to incite hatred and hostility to any other person/nation. I have many friends and neighbours from the four corners of the globe and would not do anything to offend them in any way.
 
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Lutz - In all the time this forum has been running this is the first time I must disagree with you - sorry about this. I would agree with Icemaker regarding flying the flag. It is not a case of being chauvinistic in any way. As we are now a multi-culteral nation we are purely showing our respect for our mother country. The world is now a far smaller place and I do not think that this act is no more than a friendly gesture and not an act to incite hatred and hostility to any other person/nation. I have many friends and neighbours from the four corners of the globe and would not do anything to offend them in any way.
sorry should have read that this act is a of a friendly nature....
 
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I'm sorry, I don't go along with you there, Icemaker. To me, being proud of one's country is a very chauvinistic thing. Too many wars have happened because too many people were thinking they were better than others. With taking credit for other people's achievements I can only be proud of my own. After all, which country I was born or brought up in is pure chance - it's just where my parents happened to be at the time. To put things in perspective, I'm deeply grateful to have been brought up in a democracy and in a country where I can enjoy freedom, but proud? No.
Sorry, should have written: 'Without taking credit for other people's achievements........'
 
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Don't get me wrong, Colin. I've got nothing against flying the flag of one's country but only as a gesture of belonging to that country, i.e. one's origin, not as a statement of being proud of it. I still maintain that I can be grateful for the achievements of others around me or my forebears who have enabled me to lead the life that I lead but proud only of my own achievements.
 
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Hello all,

I think it is ironic that in the UK you need planning permision fly our union flag on falg pole, you are reminded that showing a particular alegance is frowned on as not being PC, yet when it comes to sporting events such as the olympics, where it is personal achievement that wins medals, the athelets country of orogin takes the credit!

We are supposed to have equal oppertunities, and not make diffentions between race or ethnic background, disability of speciality, yet we are required to identify ourselves to the auhorities when filling in job applications so they can statistically prove equality. PC GONE MAD!!!!
 
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Lutz - In all the time this forum has been running this is the first time I must disagree with you - sorry about this. I would agree with Icemaker regarding flying the flag. It is not a case of being chauvinistic in any way. As we are now a multi-culteral nation we are purely showing our respect for our mother country. The world is now a far smaller place and I do not think that this act is no more than a friendly gesture and not an act to incite hatred and hostility to any other person/nation. I have many friends and neighbours from the four corners of the globe and would not do anything to offend them in any way.
Mother Country? as in Mother Land? you might as well click your heels and start polishing your iron cross.
 
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out of interest, does anyone fly st. george or union flags outside of the english borders? both would bw vry frowned upon in may areas of wales/scotland. to the best of everyone's knowledge, has this ever led to caravan arsony?
 
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Hi Frank - initially in response to your comment regarding "mother land" the Welsh have gone past that stage as reported by Lord B under a different heading whereby he was afraid he would have to defend England at Offas **** again. Regarding your later posting, although I generally fly the Welsh flag I have often seen both the flag of St. George and the Union flag flown in both Wales and Britany with no hard feeling to the individual. I would not be surpirised if there was a bit of friendly banter but as far as hostilities the answer would be no. Therefore should you wish to visit Wales and fly your flag please feel free to do so.
 
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To be hones colin, i soeak from bitter experience. We recently visited a small, farm-based site near Portmadogg (our grandchildren's first caravan experience) and proudly flew a St. G. flag from our roof aerial. We returned from the beach to find the aerial snapped in two and "English faggots f*ck *ff home" scribbled on the caravan door. This was very upsetting and the Television reception has suffered ever since.

Frank
 

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