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Guy Fawkes night

otherclive said:
Yes , I was dog sitting my grandsons dog last Saturday evening and no fireworks around, last night some around our area but sprocker totally unfussed.
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I think it could be because many people simply cannot afford to see +£20 wasted in a space of minutes when it could be spent on food etc. In South Africa fireworks were banned for a long period and only allowed at public displays. In my opinion over here fireworks should only be allowed at organised events. I saw with my own eyes what happens when fireworks are in the hands of irresponsible people.
 
Buckman said:
In my opinion over here fireworks should only be allowed at organised events.
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Couldn't agree more. Failing that, they should only be allowed on specified dates. Years ago you would only hear fire works on two or three nights a year. Now it seems to be every night for two or three weeks at this time of year, plus Diwali, New Year, Chineese new year, Aunt Gretta's birthday ........
 
I have no problem with folks celebrating Diwali or Chinese New Year as to those it’s no different to celebrating Guy Fawkes, which when looked at objectively is a strange tradition, neither religious or spiritual. Having been to Diwali festivals in India, Bhutan and Leicester they are great fun with fireworks, dancing, and great street food. Beat Guy Fawkes hands down.
 
otherclive said:
I have no problem with folks celebrating Diwali or Chinese New Year as to those it’s no different to celebrating Guy Fawkes, which when looked at objectively is a strange tradition, neither religious or spiritual. Having been to Diwali festivals in India, Bhutan and Leicester they are great fun with fireworks, dancing, and great street food. Beat Guy Fawkes hands down.
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One of the few countries in the first world that has a day named after a terrorist and it is celebrated! maybe we should bring him back? 😆
 
Years ago out first dogs were terrified of fireworks, we would try everything to help them but it was no good. With my present dogs we would take them out into the garden when they were pups when the fireworks were going off and 15 years later they still take no notice of fireworks, thank goodness.
I don't understand people not going to a public display. When the kids were young we would go to the public displays where there would be terrific displays and then we would have a burger or whatever and a drink and we all enjoyed ourselves. That was when we lived in a big city , but now we live in a village and apart from about 15 minutes of fireworks it was quiet all night.
 
When we lived in Canada we bought a Cockapoo and used to take him to the Canada Day firework display in Ottawa. He loved it.

When we moved back to the UK and he flew over in cargo straight to quarantine for 6 months he was the much same old pooch when he came out except he got stressed out at firework time.
 
Up here in south yorks it starts at around 5.30 and is a continuous barrage until about 10 pm.
I don't mean the occasional bang, it is a low rumble like a distant artilliery barrage or thunder.
I didn't know that there were that many fireworks in the world
 
joanie said:
Years ago out first dogs were terrified of fireworks, we would try everything to help them but it was no good. With my present dogs we would take them out into the garden when they were pups when the fireworks were going off and 15 years later they still take no notice of fireworks, thank goodness.
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Got my last pup around April time, not many fire works that time of year. Instead I took her to a clay pigeon shooting club. Had a buttie and a coffee in the cafe there, then wondered round the shoot.
Shes mostly ok but did get a bit nervous when we were out for our evening walk last weekend and the fire works started half way round.
 
Here is a breakdown of its historical and modern status:
  • Historical Mandate: In the immediate aftermath of the foiled Gunpowder Plot of 1605, the English Parliament passed the "Observance of 5th November Act" (or "Thanksgiving Act") in January 1606. This Act mandated an annual public day of thanksgiving for the King's survival and legally enforced church attendance on November 5th.
  • Repeal of the Act: The mandatory observance of the day was officially repealed in 1859 by the Anniversary Days Observance Act, as the religious and political tensions that had sustained the mandatory element lessened over time.
  • Current Status: Today, Guy Fawkes Night is a traditional, cultural commemoration, not a government-dictated one. It is not a national public holiday or a bank holiday, and people do not get the day off work or school. Celebrations are generally organized by local communities, charities, or individuals, involving private or public fireworks displays and bonfires.
While the government no longer mandates the celebration, the tradition remains popular in the UK. The only official government-linked custom that still takes place is the ceremonial search of the cellars of the Houses of Parliament by the Yeomen of the Guard before the State Opening, to ensure no explosives are present.
 
some years ago , in fact a lot of years ago , I wrote to my local MP re . fireworks and he said that while the fireworks are only allowed to be so loud, they dare not make them any quieter as people would be looking abroard to buy fireworks which have no comtrols
 
Hutch said:
Here is a breakdown of its historical and modern status:
  • Historical Mandate: In the immediate aftermath of the foiled Gunpowder Plot of 1605, the English Parliament passed the "Observance of 5th November Act" (or "Thanksgiving Act") in January 1606. This Act mandated an annual public day of thanksgiving for the King's survival and legally enforced church attendance on November 5th.
  • Repeal of the Act: The mandatory observance of the day was officially repealed in 1859 by the Anniversary Days Observance Act, as the religious and political tensions that had sustained the mandatory element lessened over time.
  • Current Status: Today, Guy Fawkes Night is a traditional, cultural commemoration, not a government-dictated one. It is not a national public holiday or a bank holiday, and people do not get the day off work or school. Celebrations are generally organized by local communities, charities, or individuals, involving private or public fireworks displays and bonfires.
While the government no longer mandates the celebration, the tradition remains popular in the UK. The only official government-linked custom that still takes place is the ceremonial search of the cellars of the Houses of Parliament by the Yeomen of the Guard before the State Opening, to ensure no explosives are present.
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Why not name it Thanksgiving Day instead of Guy Fawkes? I wonder if he will be resurrected in a different form? 🤣 🤣
 
Some may claim Guy Fawkes was the only person to go to parliament with Good intentions any how things went off with a bang in my part of the world 😄💥
 
A good watch on TV is, Lucy Worsleys, documentary on Guy Fawkes,( who was a religious mercenary, against the Dutch) it also has a very short bit about why, terrorists are recruited.
Sorry for the Fred, D.
 
We have it all year as firework displays seem popular at wedding and other special occasion evening events. In the village we have two very popular wedding /function venues; both we perceive as incredibly expensive places so I expect a few extra £100s on a display gets lost in the overall event cost.
I know neighbours with dogs find it all stressful. Sometimes we get a polite prewarning note either from the clients or the venues themselves.
These events can be very impressive, way better than domestic efforts.

We had nearly nothing on the 5th, but a lot last Saturday night.
 
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I love firework displays as do both of my dogs, ( one passed on now) , when they were pups done all the correct training , clay pigeon shoots, sat at train stations, swimming , walked near horses and sheep, It is all to do with training,
Edit, But for some reason Rex hated Party poppers, bursting balloons didn't effect him.
 
There was a good programme on some years ago, fronted by Richard Hammond in which they staged a recreation ( physical not AI) as to whether the conspirators would have succeeded in actually blowing up the Houses of Parliament and the King if they had got as far as lighting the fuse. It was based on the best available knowledge of the construction of the building, the position and number of the kegs, the quality of the gunpowder at the time, etc.
It showed that the entire building would have been completely destroyed and anyone inside would have had no chance. It was really interesting.
 
Mel said:
There was a good programme on some years ago, fronted by Richard Hammond in which they staged a recreation ( physical not AI) as to whether the conspirators would have succeeded in actually blowing up the Houses of Parliament and the King if they had got as far as lighting the fuse. It was based on the best available knowledge of the construction of the building, the position and number of the kegs, the quality of the gunpowder at the time, etc.
It showed that the entire building would have been completely destroyed and anyone inside would have had no chance. It was really interesting.
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Perhaps that’s what we need now to resolve the ongoing debates about how the Houses of Parliament are to be fully refurbished. Build a new replica with no asbestos, modern wiring and heating. Could use MVHR as there's no shortage of hot air, but even that could be compromised by incessant leaks.
 
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