We bought an old (84) Hobby Prestige 8/9 berth a few years ago just to see how we'd manage with us and 3 kids. 1st "proper" run out to a site in york was great kids loved it very relaxing for all. The 2nd run out was to France (visiting the mother in law) and we decided that we liked France that much that we ended up doing 13 trips last year.