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Can I suggest that you read the second paragraph in my post again as you seemed have missed that part? Thanks.
I did read it and the situation has been mirrored in towns and cities across the country for as long had there has been technological or commercial change. Grangemouth is no different.
 
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I am still wondering where all these magical jobs are and if they exist, why are there still vacancies? Maybe people do not want to work out in the cold and wet etc if they are a professional etc?
 
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The days of a job for life have virtually disappeared, and anyone who still thinks like that is going to have a rude awakening.

I'm not without sympathy to those who are unfortunately made redundant. I have been there myself when a company I was working for closed down making about 120 employees redundant. I'm sure many other PC contributors will also have experienced the same thing, but most who for whatever reason still need to work, have managed to find alternative employment, and not just sat at home moping and taking benefits and not looking for work.

When a major employer does close down life can get difficult,. Necessity is the mother of invention, and usually these days most people do find alternative employment albeit sometime further afield, or possibly in a differnt type of activity. The national employment figures do show this.

Few people like change, but if you don't change, then you'll never discover other exciting things.
It's always the doom and gloom scenario you seem to like to spread.
 
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Buckman

The days of a job for life have virtually disappeared, and anyone who still thinks like that is going to have a rude awakening.

I'm not without sympathy to those who are unfortunately made redundant. I have been there myself when a company I was working for closed down making about 120 employees redundant. I'm sure many other PC contributors will also have experienced the same thing, but most who for whatever reason still need to work, have managed to find alternative employment, and not just sat at home moping and taking benefits and not looking for work.

When a major employer does close down life can get difficult,. Necessity is the mother of invention, and usually these days most people do find alternative employment albeit sometime further afield, or possibly in a differnt type of activity. The national employment figures do show this.

Few people like change, but if you don't change, then you'll never discover other exciting things.
It's always the doom and gloom scenario you seem to like to spread.
In this case the large number of redundancies at Grangemouth could easily have been avoided and was caused by a governmental decision and not poor management. During my lifetime I had been made redundant twice. First time I was lot younger and no issue finding another job in my field of expertise even though I had to relocate.

At the time no such thing as job seekers allowance or free medical. Second time at 59 years of age and no one wants to employ a 59 year year old so you need pick up the crumbs. Plus the fact that I lost 6 years of paying into my pension fund. I know that it is like to be without work and the struggling to make ends meet!
 
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In this case the large number of redundancies at Grangemouth could easily have been avoided and was caused by a governmental decision and not poor management. During my lifetime I had been made redundant twice. First time I was lot younger and no issue finding another job in my field of expertise even though I had to relocate.

At the time no such thing as job seekers allowance or free medical. Second time at 59 years of age and no one wants to employ a 59 year year old so you need pick up the crumbs. Plus the fact that I lost 6 years of paying into my pension fund. I know that it is like to be without work and the struggling to make ends meet!
Grangemouth had been under a cloud at least since 2009 and changes of ownership didn’t manage to turn it around. What was the Government decision that caused it to close?


  • Financial Losses: The refinery was losing significant money (around $500,000 daily) and wasn't globally competitive.
  • Infrastructure & Maintenance:Aging equipment required huge capital investment to maintain its license, and a critical "hydrocracker" unit failed to restart after planned maintenance in 2023.
  • Market Changes: Declining demand for traditional fuels like petrol and diesel, alongside the rise of electric vehicles, made refining less profitable.
 
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Grangemouth had been under a cloud at least since 2009 and changes of ownership didn’t manage to turn it around. What was the Government decision that caused it to close?


  • Financial Losses: The refinery was losing significant money (around $500,000 daily) and wasn't globally competitive.
  • Infrastructure & Maintenance:Aging equipment required huge capital investment to maintain its license, and a critical "hydrocracker" unit failed to restart after planned maintenance in 2023.
  • Market Changes: Declining demand for traditional fuels like petrol and diesel, alongside the rise of electric vehicles, made refining less profitable.
Very sadly Grangemouth is yet another political victim of successive governments who were some will say short sighted.
This dissertation from University of St Andrews is very close to the truth


Like our steel industry and others before we seem to have a death wish on British manufacturing, preferring cheaper from PRC and other not so friendly nations.

History clearly shows any Country that is not self supporting in energy etc will not last long when hostilities start😢
 
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