It isn't just caravan designers!!

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I had thought my RAV 4 lights were not very good for night driving, but last night driving across Salisbury Plain in murky, wet conditions they were pretty awful. So I thought about upgrading them to higher intensity bulbs, thinking they cannot be this bad if they are LED, so they must be halogen. Turns out they are LED, but just look at what's required to access the bulbs, no wonder the manual says refer the car to a dealership. Null pointe to Toyota of Japan for this design feature.


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Sam Vimes

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I had a similar problem with my Yaris. Ripped my hands to shreds trying to get to the bulbs. Change the off side one but couldn't do the near side. Had to take it the local garage who had to remove the battery and headlight assembly.

I remember a friend some years ago tried to change a bulb on his Citreon something. Like you the only way was to remove the front - cost about £170. He was not amused and went to complain in the showroom. As he was there a salesman was showing a couple the same version. He interupted and said " Ask him how much it costs to change a headlight bulb". The salesman was not amused.
 
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The fog lamp bulbs on the 2014 Santa Fe is the same, as OC's Rav 4, remove the front wheel of the side concerned, remove the inner wheel arch , or peel back, unbolt the bumper from the top of the radiator and then you can get into the fog lamp. I got it down to about 1/2 hour.
 
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I was talking to my son who is a team leader in the design dept of Jag Landrover.
(NO Booing yet please).
He was telling me that each part that is designed, that has to be removed to access another part, has to be able to be done in 10 minutes, using an "averaged large hand". Of a mechanic.
I am not so sure myself.
 

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