Kerbweight, definition

Mar 14, 2005
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In another thread I got into a discussion with Tim about kerbweights but as we were communicating under 'Comments' some who are also interested may have missed the information, so I'm going to post it again as a separate thread.

The definition of kerbweight according to ECE TRANS/WP.29/78/Rev.1/Amend.2 (this is a United Nations Economic Commission for Europe standard and has nothing to do with the EU):

Paragraph 2.5.4. "Mass of a vehicle in running order" means the mass of an unladen vehicle with bodywork, and with coupling device in the case of a towing vehicle, or the mass of the chassis with cab if the manufacturer does not fit the bodywork and/or coupling device, including coolant, oils, 90 per cent of fuel, 100 per cent of other liquids except used waters, tools, spare wheel, driver (75 kg) and, for buses and coaches, the mass of the crew member (75 kg) if there is a crew seat in the vehicle.

This means that the towbar, even if it is fitted later, is part of the kerbweight. Considering some towbars, including all related parts and fittings, can weigh as much as 40kg, this can be quite an appreciable amount.

The same goes for LPG conversions, for example. The tank and plumbing also raises the kerbweight. It is not accounted for in the payload.

Consequently, kerbweight is not necessarily an ex-works figure and it certainly isn't anything that stated with any accuracy in brochures or databases.
 
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Lutz,

Good idea to post as a seperate thread. I got my info from the Technical page in the Caravan Club handbook, some of this it would appear is a bit misleading.

Thanks again for your help.

Tim
 
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Lutz,

You make a good point about the kerbweight not being stated with any accuracy in the brochures.

EXAMPLE:

I have just bought a new SEAT Toledo 2.0Tdi DSG. (fantastic car)

The kerbweight as stated in the brochure is 1489Kg. In the owners handbook it is 1564Kg which is 75Kg heavier.

So using the 85% guidelines if I take the brochure weight I can tow up to 1265Kg but if I take the handbook weight I can tow up to 1329Kg !!!

As I have not found the VIN plate yet I have asked the manufacturer which of their figures I can believe. Also, I will probably take the car to a public weighbridge to be 100% certain.

Steve
 
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There is no requirement for the kerbweight to be shown on the VIN plate. This is logical because if the kerbweight were to be changed later due to the fitment of a towbar, LPG or any other permanent modification affecting weight, the car would then require a new VIN plate, which would involve an awful lot of administrative work.
 

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