Mop and Bucket

[cris_408518]

Camp sites charge nearly as much and more than some hotels and as I take my room and entertainmant with me I don't actually think that is to much to expect.

What exactly are you all doing so that you need to "clean up"! Are you un able to wash or shower without turning the facilities into a swimming pool.

No doubt Sainbury's will be handing out mops for the punters to clean the floors or Moto will not let you use their M1 toilet facilities unless you wiz around with a bucket of flash and rubber squeegy.

No doubt Angus is so up himself he gets out the Windowlene and cleans the steamed up windows as well ;-)

When visiting camp sites for over over 40 years as a tenter and caravanner I've always done my best to leave the site as I found it, and without any booze fueled noise or any other activities such as loud TV's or Music during my stay.

If I decide to use the sites facilities rather than my caravans if I've been across the tracks on my bike or windsurfing I don't head for the shower and cover the facilities in mud or sand.

Flushing the toilet is not the same as cleaning the floors and is a small service for the site to cover for what they are paid.

Or are we expected to be mopping out reception at our next site visit!

 

[emmerson2]

cris, your point re hotels--it's your own mess in a hotel shower, and there won't be any strangers using it after you! On site, any tom,dick or harry can use the facilities, and I like to leave the shower clean for the next man,and expect to find it that way too. Without mop and bucket I can't do this.It's no big deal.Mind you, one site I use regularly doesn't have m&b.When I asked why not, the owner said that they had been stolen!

 

[Angus1]

I find your response unnecessarily personal Cris, the fact that I appreciate that the wardens do a good and difficult job and can`t, shouldn`t need to, or be expected to follow around each individual person every time they use any site facility doesn`t make me `up myself`.

I just respect areas that will be used by other people.

If that makes me `up myself` then so be it.

It`s better than the slob culture which pervades our society and now it seems is becoming the standard for even some caravanners.

 

[LizCornwall]

Yes we do have other jobs to do, but my main priority is the shower block and toilet area, chemical disposal, I am on site all day during high season, after all this is my job. Children use shower block, mop and bucket that looks fun, before you know it..

Grass is a problem just after its been cut, so a quick mop up is no good, its needs to be done by the cleaners.

 

[LizCornwall]

I suppose at the end of the day, I am foremost a cleaner 7 days a week for most of the year. So when I do get a chance to take our tourer on holiday, I don't expect to see or use a mop and bucket in the shower area.

I like most guests leave the showers clean after use, but I am a paying guest on holiday.

 

[COLIN_5095629]

i have always moped the shower after use and before when some kind person has left it like a mud bath, some replies to this topic make me think what their own shower or bath must be like??? or do they have a warden or cleaner to do it for them?

 

[cris_408518]

When using hotels all my life I think I can be pretty safe in saying that the cleaners have had minimal work to do and have little evidence to find that I've been there.

I ask again, what are you lot doing so that you need the mop and bucket?

The floor of our bathrooms and shower rooms at home do not need mopping after every use!

The shower is cleaned around with water to rinse away soap and hopefuly the idea is that by the time we've finished our dirt has been washed away already.

Body is then cleared of water with a flanel like cloth and the toweled dry to step from the wet shower drying feet as we exit. No mess no fuss, so why am I then expected to turn into Mrs/Mr Mop.

Angus if you feel my remark was to personal you seem to have overlooked your un believable crass ignorant remark about flushing a toilet that has no comparison to washing a floor of what should be a regularly cleaned facility.

 

[JeremyClarksson]

Shouldn't the point be leave it as you would like to find it if you were the next person to walk in, doesn't this apply to everything - countryside, beaches, picnic areas, pitch areas etc.

There are people paid to keep these areas presentable but that gives no-one the right to leave it like a s**thole, there are street cleaners - does that mean it is OK to discard your litter whenever you feel like it.

Mop and bucket, I imagine would be necessary if you walked in after doing a cross country walk or suffered from athletes foot, on other occasions all that is needed is a spray round with the shower or a dip with the loo brush (depending on activity!).

Just pretend that your mental hero/heroine is going to walk in the door immediately you walk out, would you be embarassed?

 

[vernon]

From the tone of some correspodence, can I assume that some caravaners wouldn't even bother to wipe their feet if they walked into reception on a wet day?

Their attitude appears to be, " I'm paying for my pitch so you clean up after me!"

Don't stop the World, I don't want to get off, just put it into reverse, please!

 

[LadyMo]

As a C.C. member I have always been used to finding a mop and bucket in the shower area.What does concern me though is the numbers of people using the same water over and over again which means eventually this water is NO LONGER CLEAN.

Putting disinfectant into the water also concerns me.....what if someone is allergic to that particular product?

At home I am able to take the shower head and quickly go over the walls and floor before leaving the cabinet.Unfortunately with fixed showers on site this cannot be done.For my own protection I always wear flip flops in the site showers.

 

[cris_408518]

If you camp at sites where people are so ignorant they cover floors in mud in the first place, do you think they will be clearing it up ?

I'm sorry, but I am a paying guest and I have my own caravan and pitch to keep clean and I'll happily place stray litter in a bin as I often do when out on the street or in the country where ignorant townies leave it at danger to animals but we do not mop floors.

This is the forum where people need to be provided with some really basic mind numbing simple information at times and where many can't fathom out the simple basics of Awning erection or often opt for a porch awning as it's easier and saves time. BBQ's are gas powered gizmo's with tips on how to save time cleaning them and the caravans load is finely balanced as a motor mover for some is an easier and quicker than the driving option and they also need to have charger, battey powered drill, spare battery and multi heads for steadies and screw in awning pegs to save a little time and effort. They then clutter sites with a variety of high tech comms gear with time saving gizmo's for locking onto the satellite ready to drive others mad with the background drone of their favourite soap and then roll out a gawdy Bognor windbrake to declare their little castle.

All that effort saved and then they are mopping out the abblutions ;-)

When entering a public building any one with any manners wipes their feet the best they can if by chance they still mark the floor it is polite to point it out and offer an apology, you do not though clear it up!

When I go to my gym, rugby or golf club or swimming pool I've never yet been expeceted to mop out the communal changing areas anywhere in the world so why should a camp site be different.

 

[LizCornwall]

I am just having a count up how many mop and buckets I would need here, we have 2 showers blocks, plus unisex block, Ladies and gents toilets and showers that's 4 one for the unisex block thats 5, O' no all them mop and buckets for the little darlings to play with what a mess. No I don't think so, forget it no mop and buckets here.

If there is no mop and bucket in sight you can't use it, unless you bring your own. We also hose showers (deep clean) every day, lunchtimes are better when most guests are out for the day, or everyone has had their showers.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

As a C.C. member I have always been used to finding a mop and bucket in the shower area.What does concern me though is the numbers of people using the same water over and over again which means eventually this water is NO LONGER CLEAN.

Putting disinfectant into the water also concerns me.....what if someone is allergic to that particular product?

At home I am able to take the shower head and quickly go over the walls and floor before leaving the cabinet.Unfortunately with fixed showers on site this cannot be done.For my own protection I always wear flip flops in the site showers.

For the few times I use the sites showers I wish the shower head wasn't fixed but on reflection I supposed they are fixed for a reason .... to stop theiving gits from stealing them :O(

 

[cris_408518]

Taking this on a bit more of a tangent.

As good as some British CC and other sites might be, what are you paying for at times. Our first caravan trips to France year ago was an eye opener and still can be. You apy to pitch and that is it. We have never once had to pay to use the showers or even a hair dryer anywhere we have ever been there. It is not unusual for stes to have a maintenance gang constantly gardening and clearing up pine tomes of pine needles in forest sites and washing down tarmac site roades to keep dst to a minimum and washit back onto the pitches.

Shower and toilet blocks often are cleaned on and on going basis all day long and into the evening.

Even quite small sites will have really good swimming pools and first class equipment and facilities for children.

Even the smaller sites can offer first clss "service" with fresh foods and fresh baked bread and meats supplied on site or ordered in.

And at site fees often quite less than the UK.

The sites offer SERVICE to their customers/clients and nothing is to much trouble, when we have visited friends or family on continental sites or they have visited us we find you are welcomed with open arms in comparisonn to CC sites where we have known it to be treated as an inconvenience with sharp orders about parking outside and a lecture re do's and don'ts.

And then their is also the better behaviour and mutual respect that our continental cousins show on site unlike many brits and

without donning marigolds head scarf and mop and bucket.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Holy Athletes Foot - heres a nice controversial subject and His Windyship cannot partake of it because I rarely use onsite showers. In a few weeks time I will use the 5 star shower block facilities at Carnon Downs though but we mainly prefer to use the vans shower, at least theres only the two of us who use it.

I can tell a little story though which I've told before on this forum and by coincidence it too was at Carnon Downs.

I went to have a shower and every room, yes room, each person had their own room with shower, wash basin, toilet etc. was full except one. I opened the door and right smack bang in the middle of the floor was a toid, yes a human toid, as big as a baby's arm. I now knew why it was unoccupied :O(

What beggars belief though is how anyone could do a dump there, or even accidentally drop it, without knowing. It would have caused constipation with most people although I'm not an authority on the subject of compactedness you understand. I just felt sorry for the wardens who would have to clean it up.

Have a good day all and I hope nobody is sat reading this in front of their computer eating sausage & mash, if so I apologise unreservedly ;O)

 

[emmerson2]

I still prefer to mop out the shower before and after use,so there!

 

[cris_408518]

Oi Lord B.

I had fresh Carrot and Corriander soup Ardenes Pate and Toscano Salami with San Minatio Black Truffle on fresh lightly toasted fresh wholemeal bread out of my bread maker with the last of my Beure du Marin set for lunch.

THANKS a lot pal !

 

[Angus1]

I`m pleased the overwhelming majority of CC & C&CC sites DON`T have swimming pools, a mini-mart, take-away etc. This lack of what some see as essential is what endears them to such as myself. It hardly affects the numbers who choose to book the sites either, judging by the lack of available pitches on certain dates.

You see I`m happy with a clean quiet site surrrounded by like minded people. I have on occasion (when i can`t get into a club site) used commercial sites the odd one being O.K, and one of them I might even use again, but by and large `they ain`t my thang`

I`m lucky that I live in a small cul-de-sac which is quiet, clean, safe and populated by others who take pride in their property and surroundings. If I go on holiday I want to somewhere comparable, if that means I have to wield a mop so be it.

As Garry pointed out, it shouldn`t mean that just because someone is paid to do a job everyone else should think `stuff it`. The fact that what is laughingly called `society` nowadays treats that as the norm doesn`t make it right or desirable.

Well, not to me, anyway.

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Oi Lord B.

I had fresh Carrot and Corriander soup Ardenes Pate and Toscano Salami with San Minatio Black Truffle on fresh lightly toasted fresh wholemeal bread out of my bread maker with the last of my Beure du Marin set for lunch.

THANKS a lot pal !

lmaaoooooo

 

[cris_408518]

My point had nothing to do with mini marts but was just by way of comparison value for money and service wise between continental and UK offerings. Chav like behaviour is far more prevelant on CC and other Brit sites we know from personal experience and family and friends.

I happen to live on the outskirts of a small village in an immaculate house set in its own land surrounded by fields and open countryside where some of the locals have embarrassingly called me and my wife Sir and Madam because of where we live.

Good behaviour has nothing to do with where you live and what you have, it should be a matter of course for all.

If you think weilding a mop puts you in some campsite utopia comparable to you own home surroundings you can't have very high standards or need to get around a bit more.

If you feel that the sites you visit have a need or other clients that requires that you use mop and buckets you've standards that are not that high.

My clients pay me and my guys to do a job and they do not clean up before or after us, the've often surprised to actually see that I do our work and get in a hell of a mess on site and weild the clean up gear when finished as well!

Quiet or commercial sites, it should make no difference, we don't travel with TV's, CD and all that gear as we like a quiet time! Making out that weilding a mop puts you on some higher social or behaviourable level has to be one of the worst kinds of reverse snobbery I have ever come across.

Cleanliness in our experience should apply equally to sites large and small as should good behaviour.

If you think that CC or C & CC sites are on some special level as they provide mop and bucket to be used you need to go to some good sites to learn the difference maybe. CC site we have visited have always been clean and well kept, as for value for money and being anything really special they are a long way short of top marks and could try harder.

 

[cris_408518]

Oi Lord B.

I had fresh Carrot and Corriander soup Ardenes Pate and Toscano Salami with San Minatio Black Truffle on fresh lightly toasted fresh wholemeal bread out of my bread maker with the last of my Beure du Marin set for lunch.

THANKS a lot pal !

You thought I was joking LB, as if anything would put me off that!

 

[allen1]

both the clubs have this facility for their members to use especially in wet areas such as showers and cubicled sinks,they also have them in the laundry and food preparation areas.I know for some people it is a matter of pride that they clean up after themselves and maintain the standards set by both clubs for their members.I have worked for the c&cc and cleaned many a toilet block so I do have some experience,I remember one instance when I had not long finished cleaning one of these blocks I found an idiot washing of his mountain bike in the shower cubicle,some people have standards and some people do not know how to use a toilet brush.

 

[cris_408518]

"Idiot" !!!!!

A few F's in front of idiot and a F'ing one way trip off the site for that.

But would it have been OK if he had mopped up after himself, or would the next man in have been expected to to do it if you had not happened upon him ;-)

 

[Angus1]

Commenting on my standards when you aren`t fortunate enough to know me is really sinking to childish levels I didn`t expect on an intelligent forum. But then standards are deminishing wherever we care to look.

If as you imply by your posts that leaving a communal wash area either as you found it or as you would choose to find it is somehow beneath you, then the sooner thc CC and C&CC clubs add the `mop and bucket` requirement to it`s list of laws the sooner the likes of yourself can leave the more considerate amongst us to our own devices.

Whenever we are away we invaribly visit commercial sites in the vicinity to see if there are better (for our particular requirements) options. So far the only site in this category is Ord House. Some of the others range from O.K to requiring razor wire to keep the inmates in.

`Sir and Madam`! Oh how we laughed!

Sorry, but the size of someones property means nothing to me, and I don`t respect money either. What counts is the `person` whatever class, colour, creed or whatever, and their interaction with the other inhabitants of this orb.

As you don`t know me, so I don`t know you, but I think there are probably sufficient differences for us not to be pitched together.

For that I will remain eternally grateful.

 

[cris_408518]

How quaint an assumption to think it may be an honour to meet oneself.

"Sir and Madam" has nothing to do with house size or money but relates to local customs and history that goes back to the Dooms Day book and has relevence to some of the older locals due to two of my wifes late relatives.

I expect good clean facilities when I enter and expeect to leave them the same without the use of a mop as I expect site managers such as Liz to have the cleaning side covered as part of a good management cleanliness regime.

What good an hours old bucket of cold dirty water is with a bit of cleaning fluid in I have no idea.

The only reason that you might even notice me on site is due to mine and my wifes height.

You wouldn't hear any noise see any mess or know we were even around proabably, we dont do TV, Radio or Ipod etc and pride ourselves on recycling all waste and making no mess even taking care with fresh water fill ups where some seem to splash the stuff around or are to lazy to carry a filler hose for the Aquaroll.

We are also one of the few on CC sites who have worked out that the wastemaster slides under the caravan rather than having it laying cluttered along side the van with and asortment of other untidy clutter

Also we do not drink either so we are not prone to drink fueled ramblings or noise either ;-)

Re Money, I do respect money as we've worked darn hard for the money we spend caravanning and we are happy to spend it on campsites that we show respect to, but do in return expect a little comfort and service to be provided by the site for the hard earned cash we are spending and expect others to respect that we worked for the money spent on site as I respect that they have to.