Mop and Bucket

[allen1]

hi chris

My apologies for not getting my point across in my first post,it must be my age.Without going to deep into the history of the two clubs,they were formed by like minded people for the benefit of campers and later for caravaners. the wardens did there jobs for no wages and everybody helped each other out,it was all about being a member of the respective clubs. In fact it wasnt that long ago you could only become a member if you were recomended by another member of the club.Im rambling now...

The ethos of the clubs was that you respected your fellow campers and followed the country code ie not leaving a mess after you.And not having a bar ,pool, and a minimart helps keep the costs down and campers like me the happier for it.

I cannot afford hotel bills at there prices anyway.

All the best Allen

 

[LMH]

Hi

I haven't got time to read all the posts at the moment so a couple of quick questions:

Liz - what was the purpose of your initial question?

I agree with emmerson here. I prefer to clean the shower before I use it if that is necessary. Plus a quick mop over when I have used it. That's how I was brought up to respect others.

Some people do have the mentality of 'I've paid for it, so I'll trash the place' - I'm sure we've come across a few of those in the past.

Liz - out of interest, how many times are you anticipating cleaning your own showers then if you're not going to provide a mop and bucket?

Lisa

 

[cris_408518]

Allen

I'm not sure where this minimart and pool thing crept in.

My point is that many continental sites offer far more for less or little more money and still manage to pay quite a number of staff and keep the facilities immaculate without the clients mopping up, many due to the climate probably also get the showers used two, three or four times a day as well by the clients.

My wife and I have stayed in Hotels for not much more money than a night on a CC site and we get our own bathroom, TV and a kettle with complimentary tea and coffee and our daughter has stayed for no more cost a couple of times and I can also take a room much the same for 3 people for 30 euros or less in Europe and the showers and toilets are cleaned after every use!

CC sites are convenient and well kept but they are not really very good value for money.

My point is that you are getting a fairly basic site for a price comparable to sites in Europe that have very expensive on site facilities to pay for and an army of staff in comparison and that smaller quieter sites are even cheaper and offer full cleaning services.

And remember that CC is non profit making in that it invests what it makes when most others are taking a good profit for their own pockets.

 

[Robtel]

Just because a mop and bucket are provided on club sites does not mean that you are forced to use them. I mainly use C.C. sites and find that on most occasions when I visit the shower block the facilities are clean, but sometimes you may find footprints on floor of drying / dressing area next to shower tray. I'm not talking about big dollops of mud or anything like that, just footprints. A quick swipe over with the mop soon takes care of that, takes only a few seconds. Same on leaving the shower, a few seconds to take a mop over the part of the floor where you stood to get dressed. With the majority of showers no matter how you position the shower curtain, supposing there is one, the floor next to the shower tray gets wet, then when you are standing getting dressed, putting on footwear the floor gets marked, not a lot you can do about that apart from clean up behind you.

Nobody is being asked to scrub out the block from top to bottom. I expect the toilet and shower blocks to be kept clean but you can't expect a cleaner to clean the shower every time it is used . The provision of a mop and bucket means you can give it a quick clean before or after you use the shower if you want to. I'm surprised this topic has provoked such a reaction from some.

My concern about the mop and bucket is how often is the water in it changed, and,after reading Lord B's post, what the person before me was mopping up!

Robert

 

[Berty3]

Must agree with Angus 110% with his view on this subject, and I think Allen sums it up in a nut shell, "we are there to help one another" so what is the big deal about moping out the shower cubicle? We are not talking about cleaning the whole shower block, just the part that is set back from the cubicle where you get changed, so that it is nice and dry for the next person to use, or would you prefer to get undressed on a soaking wet floor. Its all boils down to good manners (sometimes lacking on hear by certain individuals) and absolutely nothing to do with money, what a sorry state of affairs it would be if we all used that cop out " I have paid my money" so why should I do it, should it not be " if I can help somebody as I go my way" wielding a mop is hardly backbreaking and would take far less time to do, than some of the posts on here have taken to type.

Berty.....

 

[cris_408518]

When fit I swim a lot at my gym or local pools.

After this I now have this idea that I'll be on mop and bucket duty when I get fully back on my feet again and if I do my sons rugby bash again it will be the same or I'll be late home from the weights room at the gym as I've had to run the Fitness First squeegy around.

When I take my wife to the Cloche Hat for lunch or Le Manoix for her bithday Raymond will wheel out a trolley with bowl and water for me to leave the paltes clean for the next user.

God I just hope the water is fresh and hot and that it's fairy liquid to keep my handies soft ;-0

Like, I can cope with "eating in" in a fast food joint and binning the packaging and stacking the tray but will I now have to wash and dry the tray return it to the counter stack and run the waste bag around to the waste compacter.

 

[Berty3]

You do ramble on about something and nothing Cris! I would have expected no more that about half a dozen replies on this subject.

Berty.......

 

[cris_408518]

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"We are not talking about cleaning the whole shower block, just the part that is set back from the cubicle where you get changed, so that it is nice and dry for the next person to use,"

So that buckets of cold dirty water gets slopped around the floor and the magic mop also dries it does it ? Most mops only spread the dirt around any way!

Are you really saying that Liz's and many many other sites are some kind of hazard or sub standard as they don't provide a mop?

Cold, old and often very dirty water with cleaning fluids and an ageing claggy mop head gives you exactly what benefit exactly.

Answer = NONE

 

[cris_408518]

You do ramble on about something and nothing Cris! I would have expected no more that about half a dozen replies on this subject.

Berty.......

Well all I can do is a little bit of work on the phone and net and sat lifting weights all day and playing with my power ball it gives something to make you lot think about!

But I should be back on my feet by June

 

[MikeP]

A cleaner cannot be there to mop up every 10 minutes.

 

[MikeP]

A cleaner cannot be there to mop up every 10 minutes.

Sorry, meant to post that as a response to Liz's message.

 

[cris_408518]

Why.

The last site we went to in Eire had individual washrooms with changeing rooms and was like a palace inside and the cleaners were in as you left. Each pitch had a numbered key to acccess the facilities so kids and numpties could not mess the places up. I have photos of it if I can find them and it was not an expensive site and the facilities and tiling was good as many a classy hotel.

 

[MikeP]

I really can't believe how this post has degenerated. Lisa made a good point when asking Liz why she posted in the first place. Some of the postings could be seen as a way of raising the profile of Liz's site.

Cris has introduced hotels, a quiet village, locals doffing their caps and now the Cloche Hat or Le Manoix. Are you compensating Cris? Or do you have too much time on your hands? And your comment about what people do with wastemasters is really out of order. "We are also one of the few on CC sites who have worked out that the wastemaster slides under the caravan rather than having it laying cluttered along side the van with and (sic) asortment (sic) of other untidy clutter".

Cris - you really can't compare site showers to swimming pools and gyms. Forgive me for stating the obvious, but people on campsites often have to walk across mud to reach the block. That's why blocks in the UK are often dirtier than continental blocks. Good old British weather again.

And, Cris, you definitely can't compare the light cleaning of a shower area to doing your own washing up after eating out. Chalk and cheese!

It's a real shame that threads on this forum cannot be locked. Let me answer the original question very simply:

"For those who use the shower block on C.C.C sites is it true there is a mob (sic) and bucket in shower area?"

The answer is yes. Goodbye.

Mike (real name Michael)

 

[Garfield]

As a frequent user of CCC sites the provision of a mop and bucket is a welcome sight and I wish all sites had this provision, sure it would be great to have a cleaner in after every shower but I don't want to pay for this. The very design and layout of toilet blocks means that grass and dirt get trod in by even the most consciencious, soap and water DO get splashed beyond the confines of the shower, if the water in the bucket is filthy then change it, site staff should have better things to do than run around after inconsiderate people

 

[LMH]

When fit I swim a lot at my gym or local pools.

After this I now have this idea that I'll be on mop and bucket duty when I get fully back on my feet again and if I do my sons rugby bash again it will be the same or I'll be late home from the weights room at the gym as I've had to run the Fitness First squeegy around.

When I take my wife to the Cloche Hat for lunch or Le Manoix for her bithday Raymond will wheel out a trolley with bowl and water for me to leave the paltes clean for the next user.

God I just hope the water is fresh and hot and that it's fairy liquid to keep my handies soft ;-0

Like, I can cope with "eating in" in a fast food joint and binning the packaging and stacking the tray but will I now have to wash and dry the tray return it to the counter stack and run the waste bag around to the waste compacter.

Glad you can cope with removing the rubbish in fast food outlets but are you so happy to wipe the table and sometimes chairs before you sit down to eat?

Lisa

 

[LMH]

I've read all the posts now and a memory has come back to me.

The last time I was in Harrods there was a member of staff in the toilets all the time and she wiped the toilet seat as each person came out of the cubicles.

Lisa

 

[cris_408518]

It is funny how some get upset by peoples personal choices, we do not drink as others often mention here.

Our caravanning time is together time, we don't do pub lunches or all the local eateries with bottles of alcholic beverages that are often not cheap.

On this forum you can mention buying a new a caravan every year and equipping with LCD and Satellite or aircon and pretty fancy cars.

A couple of trips out to a classy restaurant to please your wife and mother pales in comparison cost wise to many peoples monthly pub bills or even their annual caravan storage costs that we've never needed to pay.

Time on my hands, why yes. I can't walk or go out to work still, so time is pretty much mine to fill with what little mobility I have at present.

So we live in the countryside and have had nice homes, so what!

We've always had second hand caravans towed by practical works cars until now.

If you stay on a CL or field site fine you may expect a bit of mess and pay pro rata rates, for the main CC sites and other commercial sites it is not to much to expect the site to provide good frequent cleaning and that does not leave the guests mopping up.

They're commercial businesses and charge a reasonable mark up and quite frankly it is a service industry and should give the service people pay for.

Not being prepared to do mopping duties or fetching and carrying fresh cleaning water does not mean that you are some thug who trashes the facilities.

As we had older equipment that we moved van to van we only got a wastemaster two years ago, when visiting CC sites ourself and visiting family we observed as stated above.

Its not beyond many sites to provide well thought out pathways to the shower and tolet blocks and good flooring and matting to prevent muddy facilities and sensible showering set-ups so why not all.

All the psuedo country huggers escaping suberbia equipped with a new flashy van fresh from a storage depot with a sky dish and receiver but still prepared to push a mop smacks of the down trodden Brit workers chip on the shoulder and blitz commeraderie of long ago. No doubt being prepared to muck in gives you some gratification in relation to who you are and where you have come from.

Those of us that live in the countrside at a cost and have worked hard for what we have are happy to give service in our work and expect it from others.

 

[cris_408518]

I've read all the posts now and a memory has come back to me.

The last time I was in Harrods there was a member of staff in the toilets all the time and she wiped the toilet seat as each person came out of the cubicles.

Lisa

HARRODS! I always new you were classy. Old Money Kiwi roots I reckon ;-)

Bet you tipped her with your platinum card ;-)

 

[Berty3]

Well all I can do is a little bit of work on the phone and net and sat lifting weights all day and playing with my power ball it gives something to make you lot think about!

But I should be back on my feet by June

you could allways try a little light moping duties between now & then,to get your hand in ready for the start of the season. Lol

Berty.......

 

[Berty3]

I can understand that you are off work with a lot of time on your hands Cris, but I feel that is little excuse for your off topic ramblings, it is pretty obvious to every one on here that you have a very excitable nature (no may I say childish) I would not like to have you on board in a real crisis situation, as the way you react & argue on here I think you would be pretty hopeless.

No offence intended just an observation.

Berty...

 

[emmerson2]

Hold on a minute,cris! I've worked bl--dy hard for what I've got, and I live in my own place in the country with a bit of land, but I still like to see a mop and bucket in shower units! Oh, and I can trace my ancestry back to landed gentry! What does that make me?

 

[LizCornwall]

I posted this topic under general, which says express your views.

Firstly the reason I posted the topic in the first place, because we have never supplied a mop and bucket here, and it was rumours I heard that ccc sites always supplied a mop and bucket which I thought was rather strange, its seems that the rumours are true going on your replies.

Secondly I am only asking on behalf of myself and not the site where I work, I am not in the business of advertising, apologies if I have given the wrong impression.

Thirdly my topic has seemed to have interested a lot of people, you need not have replied.

Fourthly I believe Lisa asked how many times I anticipated cleaning the shower blocks, its my job and my job is making sure shower blocks are clean for guests to use.

Guests come back here year after year; we have vans in storage, if I now just start supplying a mop and bucket they would all wonder what's happened to me. I expect its what guests are used to, I think before the owners of this site were here, sponges were supplied on sinks for cleaning sinks, it took a long while for regulars to get used to no sponges. I don't think the owners here would ever supply a mop and bucket.

I just thought it was an interesting topic to hear views on ccc sites and not a private site. Liz

p.s I have to put signs out when cleaning showers, so nobody trips over bucket, what if bucket was left unattended in the middle of the shower floor and somebody hurts themselves, what will happen then?

 

[cris_408518]

That's quite funny Bertie if only you knew.

When we get called to work it's mainly because our clients have a crisis and we are the people who pull out all the stops and chase around Europe to get the jobs sorted, no one likes to see us as others then know they have a problem. So we are the guys that will get the impossible done and drive non stop to deliver and then work at any hour until job is done and we drop.

We et paid for sevice and that's what we deliver as we get paid on completion.

I don't care what anyone thinks of me and your reaction is no less than I would expect from a site with so many narrow minded people.

Liz obviously is proud of her work and her site and I guess that the returning clients are not all thugs or slobs and very happy with the cleanliness.

 

[allen1]

HI liz

Please,Please,Dont start them of again,I cant take anymore

LOL

Allen

 

[Berty3]

Bait the hook & wind em in Lol.

Berty....... not Bertie, wth all this time on your hands Cris you could at least be observant