Most stupid/dangerous things you've seen

[JonnyG]

Maybe its me, but i see nothing wrong with someone taking a photo of that outfit, and i do find it strange that many are more worried about that outfits drivers "rights "!........................

..................I would have left the reg visible too, as it breaks no rules what so ever and in the context of that photo if genuine, could warn others to stay well clear of that driver..........Or am i being too nice.....LOL

A couple of things need to be made clear before we have members spouting what they think are the rules or asserting that the showing of the registration number 'breaks no rules what so ever' when they have clearly never read these rules.

If the faces of the people in the photo of the Pugeot had been visible the picture would not have appeared on this forum.
The car registration should not have been visible, it should have been obscured by the author of the post before the photograph was submitted to the topic.
The rules which govern this situation are there for all to see both in
Forum Etiquette Rule 3:
You may not transmit material that discloses personal matters concerning any person or that is defamatory.
and in the Terms & Conditions 3:
Prohibited use which states that it is against the T&C's 'to disseminate any material which compromises the privacy or security of anyone other than yourself'.
The visible registration number on the Pugeot clearly breached the rules, terms & conditions of forum use and no such pictures will be allowed in future unless they are edited by the member beforehand to prevent identification in accordance with these rules.

Hi Parky, If what I am seeing in that photo is for real, and I have my doubts it is, then I believe the photo capturers someone in the process of committing a legal prosecutable offence. Term and condition3 as you are trying to apply them, would mean most of the material printed in practical caravan would fall foul of our forum rules! which makes an interesting dilemma. If the material is already out there,in the public domain, terms and condition 3 clearly cannot be applied properly in a legal sense, so that leaves posters in the position of not really knowing what can and cannot be posted,because its all down to how you a moderator want to use rules and interpret them and apply them to fit into a certain scenario.

and not a case of a poster not reading the rules,as photos of cars and there registration numbers break no legal rules, and terms and conditions 3 of this forum makes no mention of registration numbers directly, so how are we to know your thoughts and how you will apply certain rules till you tell us?

 

[OmOnWeelz]

If his Lordship wants to photograph doggies dumping where they are in clear breach of some rules that is clearly different to voyeuristic snapping and snooping on somebody who you are only 'guessing' that they are breaking rules

Could Dusty Dog help me on noseweight please.
If my outfits noseweight linit was 50, 75, 100, or even 125 KG does this mean that I'm no longer able to carry anything in the boot or behind the rear axle unless I get the noseweight under those figures?

I doubt very much that even a Monkey or Dax motorcycle rack would be mounted to the tow bar, without proof that the guy was carrying the bike on the tow bar the post and photograph is well out of order.
We can all guess but we don't know so why rip the P out of others when not armed with full knowledge of the facts. Caravanners and campers used to have the 'friendly' and 'pleased to help and advise one another' Label.
If the chappies outfit was truly dangerous and he was ignorant of that ,what kind of good souls do we have here who are prepared to let him head on to public roads and endanger himself and others? I'm shocked by caravanners attitudes if that is the case

If you called the police would they even bother to respond? By the time they did respond he could be dead upside down in a ditch along with others and possibly within seconds of leaving the site.
Ignorance of the laws and safety has never been defendable and turning a blind eye to others ignorance and lack of safety is pretty hard to excuse

 

[Parksy]

'Johnny G'
We're discussing a moot point because I edited the photo from my end to make the number plate unreadable but the rules are quite clear.
By showing the number plate in the context of this topic the 'privacy and security' of the Peugot owner could be said to have been compromised.
I'm not about to start splitting hairs over what you think the rules mean, we both know that we've trodden that path many times before.
If you don't like the rules or the way that they are applied the answer is simple - find another forum to use.

 

[Dustydog]

If his Lordship wants to photograph doggies dumping where they are in clear breach of some rules that is clearly different to voyeuristic snapping and snooping on somebody who you are only 'guessing' that they are breaking rules

Could Dusty Dog help me on noseweight please.
If my outfits noseweight linit was 50, 75, 100, or even 125 KG does this mean that I'm no longer able to carry anything in the boot or behind the rear axle unless I get the noseweight under those figures?

It looked like a towbar mounted carrier.

 

[OmOnWeelz]

DustDog
'It looked like a towbar mounted carrier'

Oh deary deary dear, so that's clear then. You don't know for sure! People just don't get found guilty on an 'it looked like', may have been' witness statement. You need to know the facts and be 100% sure before becoming judge, jury and hangman

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[JonnyG]

DustDog
'It looked like a towbar mounted carrier'

Oh deary deary dear, so that's clear then. You don't know for sure! People just don't get found guilty on an 'it looked like', may have been' witness statement. You need to know the facts and be 100% sure before becoming judge, jury and hangman

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In my case I don't need to know all the facts, you mentioned self leveling suspension as a get out type of clause,! strange as that has no effect on the legality of the vehicle in question having a bike and caravan attached at the same time, even if such a kit was available for a small peugeot 306
The fact are/remain it could not legally and safely tow, that combi, The little Honda mentioned weighs in at above 65 kg in road trim and without somehow weighting the rear of that caravan with 400kg of weight to bring its hitch weight down to 5 odd kg! then its tow-bar weight would be illegal, and if by some miracle he could get the tow ball weight done to its max then a caravan with a nose weight of 3 or 4 kgs would be unsafe and i believe illegal.....

We do not need to know anything 100% to give ones opinion on any subject, otherwise one could add why on earth you mentioned self levelling rear suspension on this topic, as it plays absolutely no part what so ever to whether that car was or was not legal.

As you can see I have taken your advice concerning being helpful and pointed this small matter of fact out to you...LOL

 

[OmOnWeelz]

Wrong.
Unless you know 100% that the bike rack was fitted to the tow bar and no where else there by exceeding the tow bar limit the tow ball and nose weight has nothing to do with it!
Suspension alterations would only level the car from the rear down pose in the photo. As with some trial bike racks that are fitted between car and tow bar not using the towbar to carry the weight. Nose weight relates to the caravan and the weight on the ball and tow bar.
It's the same as having a limit of say 80kg nose weight on your car and setting the caravan nose weight exactly on the scales at 80kg and then adding a rear of car cycle carrier with 4 cycles on it. The bikes weight has B all to do with nose weights even though they could far out weigh the Monkey or Dax.
Still laughing?

I'm more aghast at the bitchyness of caravanners here mocking others rather than offering help and advice

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

It's been a nice day here today although overcast

 

[Parksy]

I'd suggest that forum members move on from the photograph issue before heated or angry personal or abusive posts start to cause problems for this topic.
JTQ who posted the photo obviously considered that the Pugeot in his picture comes into the category of 'Most stupid / dangerous things' that he has seen which presumably is why he submitted the photo in this thread
Members may agree or disagree that the owner of the Pugeot was stupid or that his outfit with what looked like a small motorcycle on a rack of some sort plus a caravan hitched up was dangerous.
The nit picking over where the motorcycle was mounted or if it would affect the handling is serving no purpose whatsoever.
This forum is not some sort of court,so nothing written on here could have much of an effect either way and the points scoring will just end up being taken down from the message board so those who indulge in it might as well save themselves the time and trouble of writing it.
If you think that what you saw was dangerous - fine, then don't copy it!
If on the other hand you think that the loading of the Pugeot was safe and acceptable - fine, no need to worry about what others think then!
Whether or not members agree with the fact that the photo was taken has nothing to do with the discussion, the topic is about what stupid and dangerous things you have seen not what pictures you may have taken.
I'm off for a week in the morning so please don't waste time replying to my advice anybody because I won't see the replies, if this topic has survived the week and is still here and unlocked when I come back I'll be surprised.

 

[Soozeeg]

Going anywhere nice, Steve?

 

[Dustydog]

Well said Parksy
Sensibility rules ok

Don't forget the dog guard to protect your aquaroll from all the little cocked legs.

 

[SootyandBaldrick]

Seems to have gone off topic

Here's an oldie but goody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQSTMYNqBW8

 

[ProfAlGoogle]

Theres only the two of us and Jack the westie, and no motorbike, and show full consideration for other road users by only traveling when it is quiet.................................................... Tongue in cheek.

 

[ww2nut]

Thank God we are back on topic, having trawlled through numerous pages of politically correct drivell, this cold have been a tidy thread, if anyone thinking about starting caravanning read all this noncense it would cast us all in a very nit picky light!
its ment to be a bit of fun, if anyone sees me on holls doing something funny or stupid, please please take a pic, for only by passing this stuff on can anyone learn.

 

[OmOnWeelz]

The TUV certificate for the Smart
330kg max trailer weight.
30kg max nose weight.
1240kg max train weight.

I guess that must be one of the new very top secret eco development 'Featherweight' Senator's

 

[ProfAlGoogle]

Lol,
Now where did I put that nose weight gauge!