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My 1.6 Focus Estate would not pull our Avondale up a hill coming out of Robin Hoods bay near Whitby, the wife and two of the kids had to get out and walk it. I managed to get it moving and daren't even change up into second gear. What an experience that was!!!
Thats why I got the diesel Cmax...........
 

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Hi Chris

That's what I mean, I can't believe that little blue car would be capable of towing that van up those hills arond RHB and surrounding areas. Also, going down them might be just as scary (if it could manage to tow it up the hills),

I changed my first towing vehicle (family saloon 1.8) to a 2L tdci (130bhp) when I realised although I was advised by fellow caravanners to tow no more than 1000kg, it certainly was not up to towing up steep hills, fine on the flat but not going up hills.

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Peugeot 306's came with a 1.9 litre diesel power plant, gross weight 1530KG, max all in weight 2480KG, max braked towed 1200KG
By my reckoning, carrying wise they had 900KG + to play with and by the way 85% of 1589 for what it's worth is 1300.5Kg if I can still do maths. No sign of any kids and with a couple in the car they could easily have been no where near max load weight. With a small motor bike on the back there's a good chance there were no kids to factor in.
Makes me wonder! If the photgrapher was so concerned that the outfit was unsafe a word to the wise in the drivers ear would be more beneficial rather than voyeuristic 'danger snaps' and then slag the guy off on a public forum when we only have half guesses about the outfit
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Hello OmOnWheels,
I think your description of the photograph as "voyeuristic danger snaps" is excellent,I couldn't have put it better myself.Well done.
However for the sake of political correctness, and not to offend those who own them,I will now refer to gas guzzling 4x4 as " vehicules which have a direct drive to each wheel from the gearbox via a differential,and the mixed urban fuel consumption is less than what one would call average,when driven in a normal manner,round in circles"
 

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Feel free to call my gas guzzling 4x4 a gas guzzling 4x4 if you want to Tricky Dickie, it's all water off the (very shiny) bonnet of a gas guzzling 4x4 to me
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I chose the car, I paid for it and I pay for every drop of the diesel fuel that it uses when it pulls my large 26 foot twin axle fixed bed gin palace of a caravan which is only ever used by the two of us but which I've also paid for.
Of course the gas guzzling 4x4 is mainly used in 2 wheel drive whether I'm going round in circles or in a straight line but I'm happy in the knowledge that my gas guzzling 4x4 is safe, stable and will not endanger either myself, my o/h or any other road users by being overloaded in any way whilst it's busy guzzling gas.
 
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Can't allow the 4x4 one sunshine.
What is average MPG? And plenty of two wheel drive tow cars use more fuel when solo or towing than 4X4's. In the past few days I've driven 2 and 3 litre Audi Q5 an they both retured over 42 mpg.
 
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............and the thread degenerated into the regular "I love 4x4s" v " I hate 4x4s". I'm with Parksy on this one. I pay for it, so I'll do what I like with it.
 
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Maybe its me, but i see nothing wrong with someone taking a photo of that outfit, and i do find it strange that many are more worried about that outfits drivers "rights "!
If the photo is genuine then we should be all concerned that this type of thing happens and if the photo is genuine then clearly that outfit is a danger to its owner and in my opinion a danger to other road users.
Me I would have taken the photo in plain view, would not wasted my breath on speaking to the owner, more probably would have phoned the local bobbies.
Its up to each individual road user to be sure they are driving a safe outfit/car van lorry ect. If somebody is stupid enough not to take time to check legalities out for themselves, then they are stupid individuals and a danger to others.

PS notice as yet no towing mirrors in place either, although it is possible he/she will fit them before pulling off but have my reservations considering how many outfits i see on the road that don't either bother to fit them, when you can clearly see they should.

I would have left the reg visible too, as it breaks no rules what so ever and in the context of that photo if genuine, could warn others to stay well clear of that driver..........Or am i being too nice.....LOL
 
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tricky dicky said:
However for the sake of political correctness, and not to offend those who own them,I will now refer to gas guzzling 4x4 as " vehicules which have a direct drive to each wheel from the gearbox via a differential,and the mixed urban fuel consumption is less than what one would call average,when driven in a normal manner,round in circles"

Methinks tricky dicky has gone off his wicky
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Usual rubbish, if they are losing the plot try another tack and trash something else which usually means, in this instance of tow cars, 4x4s.
IMO JTQ did one thing wrong and that was by leaving the cars registration on the pic if indeed it could be read.
In future, if the opportunity arises, I must refrain from taking a pic of someone letting their dog dump without clearing it up incase I'm classed as voyeuristic.
If, while peeping from behind lace curtains, I see someone nicking someones AquaRoll I must look the other way and refrain from taking photographic evidence as I should if I saw someone shoplifting.
No tricky dicky, it is you who needs to know what political correctness is.
Please try another reasoning without involving or trying to blame thousands of others, namely those who choose, because it's their money, to drive 4x4s.
 

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JonnyG said:
Maybe its me, but i see nothing wrong with someone taking a photo of that outfit, and i do find it strange that many are more worried about that outfits drivers "rights "!........................

..................I would have left the reg visible too, as it breaks no rules what so ever and in the context of that photo if genuine, could warn others to stay well clear of that driver..........Or am i being too nice.....LOL

A couple of things need to be made clear before we have members spouting what they think are the rules or asserting that the showing of the registration number 'breaks no rules what so ever' when they have clearly never read these rules.

If the faces of the people in the photo of the Pugeot had been visible the picture would not have appeared on this forum.
The car registration should not have been visible, it should have been obscured by the author of the post before the photograph was submitted to the topic.
The rules which govern this situation are there for all to see both in
Forum Etiquette Rule 3:
You may not transmit material that discloses personal matters concerning any person or that is defamatory.
and in the Terms & Conditions 3:
Prohibited use which states that it is against the T&C's 'to disseminate any material which compromises the privacy or security of anyone other than yourself'.
The visible registration number on the Pugeot clearly breached the rules, terms & conditions of forum use and no such pictures will be allowed in future unless they are edited by the member beforehand to prevent identification in accordance with these rules.
 

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Lord Braykewynde said:
In future, if the opportunity arises, I must refrain from taking a pic of someone letting their dog dump without clearing it up incase I'm classed as voyeuristic.
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ROFL
You should arrange to go away with Dustydog Lord B!
Last week he wrote that he thought that non dog owners never flushed the toilet after a number 2 which makes me wonder if he goes into the cubicles to check and now you're creeping around taking photo's of dogs taking a dump!!
You'd have a brilliant time together
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The dump detectives!
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No Jobbie too small
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Dustydog : " I can't help feel on the face of it the Blue Pug satisfies the OP"

Oh come on, making a mockery of someone with no proof of the facts is cheap sport.
And the caravan nose weight has nothing to do with the combined weight of rack and monkey bike providing the cars load limit was not exceeded.
And why would major engineering be needed? The correct shocks either self levellers or air take little time and effort to be fitted as do uprated springs and that's if you need them.
We used our 940 and 960 Volvo's as Seven seater's when we had Granny and Children with us. The approved self fit suspension mods could be fitted with ease before lunch and we would be very upset to have been photographed in a similar position to the Peugeot outfit and labeled dangerous idiots.
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As for Trick Dicky. Yet another sillybilly 4x4 "gas guzzler" popularist press crud comment. There are plenty of two wheel drive cars solo and towing that guzzle more gas than 4x4 tow cars.

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I merely refer to the OP. There is no cheap sport here. Merely theOP setting out something he considered in keeping with the OP.
The bike on the back looks bigger than a monkey bike. A basic "dry" Honda monkey bike weigh is at 52kgs. The Pug's noseweight is circa 58kgs max .
That doesn't leave much for the caravan
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As for 4x4s. I'll spend my money how and when and what I want to . If I use more diesel than others . So what? I'm contributing more to the Treasury so I am more than paying my way!
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Thank goodness we don't all go around in smokey two stroke plastic cars wearing the same coloured clothes...
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. Well said Parksy
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Parksy - Moderator said:
Lord Braykewynde said:
In future, if the opportunity arises, I must refrain from taking a pic of someone letting their dog dump without clearing it up incase I'm classed as voyeuristic.
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You should arrange to go away with Dustydog Lord B!
Last week he wrote that he thought that non dog owners never flushed the toilet after a number 2 which makes me wonder if he goes into the cubicles to check and now you're creeping around taking photo's of dogs taking a dump!!
You'd have a brilliant time together
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The dump detectives!
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That's priceless Parksy.
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This is more fun than when I discovered Thomas Crapper invented the flushing toilet.
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And there's me thinking a pisserine was a French fish.
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And with the demise of Sadam I thought the last of the scuds had disappeared. How wrong I was . Whilst I was on poo patrol with the other dog owners the pahantom crapper left his mark.
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Now my English Springer Spaniels have a good sense of smell and we will pursue our quest "In search of the Phantom Crapper"
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LB can take all the pics but I think we can both promise not to publish the offenders registration number.However if the offender is a non dog owner..........
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Dustydog said:
LB can take all the pics but I think we can both promise not to publish the offenders registration number.However if the offender is a non dog owner..........
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What if we publish a pic of a person with a tattoo on their rump. Will this go against their human rights? Or even the Data Protection Act?
 
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You know you lot are giving Plotter the perfect excuse to resurrect (yet again) his Smokaloo saga............(now where's that rolling eyes icon thingy Rita left for me?)
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It looks like I've hit a raw nerve amongst some of the caravanning fraternity.I've even managed to upset Lord Braykewendy ( Is that a first?)
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Anyway must be brief,as I'm busy spying on the neighbours right now.I'm having a bit of trouble though,I can't remember where I put the binoculars.
No mention of the GG44M this time.
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Lord Braykewynde said:
Dustydog said:
LB can take all the pics but I think we can both promise not to publish the offenders registration number.However if the offender is a non dog owner..........
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What if we publish a pic of a person with a tattoo on their rump. Will this go against their human rights? Or even the Data Protection Act?
It all depends if the've logged on
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Makes me wonder! If the photgrapher was so concerned that the outfit was unsafe a word to the wise in the drivers ear would be more beneficial rather than voyeuristic 'danger snaps' and then slag the guy off on a public forum when we only have half guesses about the outfit
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posted the poster who was only half guessing at the vehicle variant , the weight of the motorbike, the lack of passengers and children and the weight of the caravan.

I think before commenting on The Data Protection act we should take time to understand the act and what is actually included. The act is one of the most mis understood and misused pieces of legislation there is.

Basically it should protect the individual from being indentified by electronic media. A vehicle number plate does not in any way enable me to identify an individual.

What it does do is potentially allow me to clone a vehicle hence the reason you should take your v5 to get a road use legal number plate.
 
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tricky dicky said:
It looks like I've hit a raw nerve amongst some of the caravanning fraternity.I've even managed to upset Lord Braykewendy ( Is that a first?)
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No mate, you haven't upset me
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It's only a forum so it's not worth getting upset over.
You are entitled to your opinions as is everyone else so all I was doing was responding like with like.
No hard feelings and it would be a boring world if we all agreed and even if that was possible who on earth would I argue with
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I mean debate
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