I believe manchester victoria men where known as victoria vultures back in the 70's and 80's due to thiere very large route card, we still do to this day sign quite a lot of railway compared to most depots.
I have been told of one driver who is still driving today at the age of 69 for west coast railways who once took a class 40 loco to crewe only to find his relief had not turned up so he carried on to the trains destination in exeter with his second man reading the route out of the sectional appendix.
We would get sacked these days for that, they class it as a spad if you take the wrong route.
You should come down one day LB as bury allso have a crab and a black 5 both in main line order, im expecting to see at least one of them at newton heath on sunday as im on duty this weekend.
have a look at the elr web site it is quite a good site.
http://www.east-lancs-rly.co.uk/
Any way the boss will be home soon best go and put tea on or im in trouble.