Took delivery of new elddis & on 1st outing found many faults. It went back into dealers & came back with some faults rectified & some made worse. It's going back in to dealers when they get a new door & to hopefully be fixed correctly.
kevin1959 said:Took delivery of new elddis & on 1st outing found many faults. It went back into dealers & came back with some faults rectified & some made worse. It's going back in to dealers when they get a new door & to hopefully be fixed correctly.
kevin1959 said:If we refused it we would have to take back our px that we do not want.
Raywood said:On the basis of what you say then I would agree with the Prof that you are entitled to reject the caravan. I do understand what he then says about accepting the faults but you do have to be realistic.
The faults are not detailed, so we do not know how serious they are, so it is difficult to judge what is realistically the best option. If this is the caravan you want and the faults are minor then it may be more sensible to keep it, but make sure you get them rectified and try and negotiate something for your trouble. If there is a lot involved in the towing you can claim the cost back but gain it depends what you are looking at whether it is realistic in practice.
If the faults are serious, then whatever you think about taking the old one back, I would still want my money back.
Lappy said:Kevin1959,
One point I would like you to clarify is the fridge not working on 12V.
A caravan fridge will not work off the 12v battery, it's 12v supply feed comes when it's connected to the car and the engine is running. Therefore this fault could be down to the towing electrics and not the caravan itself.
Regards,
Raywood said:...Given that it only works on battery if the fridge is cold when you set off, ....
ProfJohnL said:Raywood said:...Given that it only works on battery if the fridge is cold when you set off, ....
I'm sorry Ray but your statement is off the mark.
I'll forgive the reference to Battery becasue you really meant the 12v system,
However the effectiveness of caravan fridges is roughly the same regardless of which fuel or power source you use. becasue all the sources are rated roughly the same, and all they do is to provide heat to drive the absorption process. The fridge doesn't care whether its mains gas or 12V dc
What does change the game slightly is the fact that when a caravan is being towed, the passing around and through the fridge vents may affect the efficiency of the refrigeration cycle, and becasue the caravan is only moved when it is hitched to a tow vehicle, that will generally coincide with the use of 12V power. consequently the cooling ability may be slightly different - but certainly not stopped!
The other factor is of course the time the caravan is being towed, this is for relatively short times, so the cooling effect will not be a prolonged as when its sited and powered by mains or gas.
These two factors may give the impression that 12V does not work, but that is contrary to the facts.
In point of fact, in most fridges only the gas and Mains power are thermostatically controlled, so in principle the 12V system might cool the fridge further as the 12V is often not thermostatically regulated.
It certainly is best if you can pre-cool a fridge before travelling, and to load it with already chilled produce.
Raywood said:Hi Prof, I am not an expert on fridges but I have always been taught that the fridge needs to be cooled before using 12 volts to tow and you are the first person I have come across that has suggested this is not the case. One point usually made on this is the very small diameter wiring which looses a lot of power because of the resistance encountered.
I have not come across anyone suggesting that there is an effective cooling effect from the wind passing over the fins although I can see the point. The vents though are on the side of the caravan and so I do wonder how great the effect will be.
My point in the post though was that it would be very difficult to check the 12 volt system was working before the OP was given the caravan.
Grahamh said:Dare I ask 'which dealer'?