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New Ford Escort

About a 2 - 3 years ago a Ford Escort RS was up for sale on eBay with a mileage of about 12 miles. It commanded a very high price and was sold within days. Cannot remember if it was a Cosworth version. I always wanted a Capri.
 
They say anti-lock brakes and traction control are omitted. I thought both features became a legal requirement in 2022.
 
Lutz said:
They say anti-lock brakes and traction control are omitted. I thought both features became a legal requirement in 2022.
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If the vehicle was designed before k.e. 2004 then probably no necessity and it seems they are using the same design with a bigger engine? We had a similar issue with a 2013 Shogun which did not have TPMS or Daytime lights although legislation cam about in about 2011.
 
Lutz said:
They say anti-lock brakes and traction control are omitted. I thought both features became a legal requirement in 2022.
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The UK IVA system for one off and low volume production specifically omits some safety features required on mass produced vehicles (air bags and catalytic converters being others).
 
Remember that these are not actually “Ford Escorts” although they do look like them. Another company producing them is based in Wales, they’re badged as “MST Mk1 and MST Mk2”
 
Buckman said:
If the vehicle was designed before k.e. 2004 then probably no necessity and it seems they are using the same design with a bigger engine? We had a similar issue with a 2013 Shogun which did not have TPMS or Daytime lights although legislation cam about in about 2011.
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That "concession" is down to dates of Type Approval as an annual model "change" doesn't necessarily mean a new Type Approval - however that's irrelevant as the new Escort doesn't need Type Approval anyway, just Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) as it's production numbers will be so low.
 
GaryB said:
Remember that these are not actually “Ford Escorts” although they do look like them. Another company producing them is based in Wales, they’re badged as “MST Mk1 and MST Mk2”
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AFAIK the Welsh company is using an original Ford Escort bodyshell, which they strengthen and then build up as a modern performance care - the Boreham cars will be all new.
 
RogerL said:
AFAIK the Welsh company is using an original Ford Escort bodyshell, which they strengthen and then build up as a modern performance care - the Boreham cars will be all new.
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They use shells assembled with reproduction panels. I’ve seen a few and the fit & finish is better than the original Escort. The upgrades to meet the IVA requirements are very well done and still fit in with the original cars ethos rather than just looking like they’ve just been glued on.
 
otherclive said:
2004 ABS mandated in UK and similar timescale in EU and USA. 2014 fir EU TCS.
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ABS was not mandated in 2004. The automobile industry only committed itself to voluntarily fit ABS as standard in 2004. How IVA handles exceptions for low volume vehicles designed and produced after 2022, I don't know.
 
Lutz said:
ABS was not mandated in 2004. The automobile industry only committed itself to voluntarily fit ABS as standard in 2004. How IVA handles exceptions for low volume vehicles designed and produced after 2022, I don't know.
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The latest version of the manual isn’t much different to the first version that replaced SVA several years ago. It’s available for download on the dot-gov site.
 
GaryB said:
The latest version of the manual isn’t much different to the first version that replaced SVA several years ago. It’s available for download on the dot-gov site.
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The latest version of the manual seems not to make any reference to ABS, but only says "Ensure that all vehicles are fitted with braking systems capable of stopping the vehicle in a safe controlled manner ............ without the control of the driver". It is perhaps arguable whether this is possible without ABS. I see, however, that neither daytime running lights nor tyre pressure monitoring systems are mentioned in the IVA manual. That would indicate that it would be permissible to use a vehicle covered by IVA but without these features in the UK.
 
It must also be remember that way back in the sixties/seventies many of the MK1 Escorts were modified. A batch of sixty RS1600s were sold by Ford SA to Basil Green Motors in Edenvale, Johannesburg who replaced the twin cam BDA engines with the 2000cc SOHC Pinto engine and the car was renamed the Escort Perana. They were very quick for those days and sought after.
 
Lutz said:
ABS was not mandated in 2004. The automobile industry only committed itself to voluntarily fit ABS as standard in 2004. How IVA handles exceptions for low volume vehicles designed and produced after 2022, I don't know.
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I’ve done a Google search and found six websites that state abs was mandated in 2004. Viz Parker’s wikepedia, auto express etc. where is your info coming from. Cars I’ve had well before 2004 all came with ABS. Ie firts generation Mondeo. Early 1990s My 1990 E30 325i M Sport had abs too.
 
otherclive said:
I’ve done a Google search and found six websites that state abs was mandated in 2004. Viz Parker’s wikepedia, auto express etc. where is your info coming from. Cars I’ve had well before 2004 all came with ABS. Ie firts generation Mondeo. Early 1990s My 1990 E30 325i M Sport had abs too.
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Many websites can be inaccurate as we have all seen time and time again. Only the official ones are worth considering. Who cares whether it was mandatory or not in 2004 unless they want to provoke an argument? 😀
 
otherclive said:
I’ve done a Google search and found six websites that state abs was mandated in 2004. Viz Parker’s wikepedia, auto express etc. where is your info coming from. Cars I’ve had well before 2004 all came with ABS. Ie firts generation Mondeo. Early 1990s My 1990 E30 325i M Sport had abs too.
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Maybe it's required for Type Approval but not IVA ?
 
Buckman said:
Many websites can be inaccurate as we have all seen time and time again. Only the official ones are worth considering. Who cares whether it was mandatory or not in 2004 unless they want to provoke an argument? 😀
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I really don’t see why anyone who perhaps questions or challenges a point of view should be accused of wanting to provoke an argument. After all aren’t we rational adults and if you don’t want to get involved with the “tread” just move on to another such as EVs 😱
 
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