Nissan Xtrail Nose weight discrepency? What is it 75kg or 10...

[HomerMarge]

We were told 100kg for the nosewight on 2004 2.2 DCi at the weekend at the dealer, but have just read on the caravan club magazine review (2005) that whilst the handbook says 100kg, Nissan Technical Department quoted 75kg to the caravan club?

Firstly if this really is the case should the handbook not of been changed, I wonder where you stand if (like us) it is loaded as per the handbook. And secondly what is right if you are on the limit, should we trust the handbook or the caravan club review? We thought we had finally decided on a replacement vehicle (100kg nosewight being a main priority) and have now been thrown into confusion...doh answers on a postcard please..

 

[Lutz]

The 2.2dCi has 100kg noseweight. It's the 2.0 which only has 75kg. (This is very unusual to have different noseweights depending on the engine)

 

[HomerMarge]

Once again thankyou Lutz...what would this forum do without you!

 

[Seriman1]

Hello MR and Mrs Simpson i have an x-trail 2.2dci sve and i can confirm the towball load as 100kg.its the flippin kerbweight that is the problem ,its about time they put this on the vin plate as well because the manufactures,dealers wont pin each car down they only give you guide lines from 1515 to 1650 and this is not helpful to anyone, but all said and done the x-trail is a lovely car to tow with and drive solo.

Steve

 

[Lutz]

To do so would mean that every car would have to be weighed as it comes off the line (a few manufacturers already do this). But even then, the stated kerbweight would only be the kerbweight of the vehicle as it left the plant and this could have subsequently changed due to fitment of accessories. A dealer-fitted towbar, including all reinforcements, can alone raise the kerbweight by up to 40kg, for example. Other typical major changes to kerbweight are LPG conversions, changes to wheel and tyre equipment, additional oil coolers, etc. and there are a multitude of smaller changes too which, when added together, can also significantly affect the net result.

You'd probably get quite a surprise if you take your car to a weighbridge and have the actual weight measured.

 

[Guest]

To comment on Lutz's post re the difference due to engine size. It seems very unusual for the nose weight to be defined purely on engine size at the front, I suspect there has to be other differences such as suspension or even wheel/axle loadings. Looking at the Nisan web page indicates a major change if the automatic version is chosen, which is actually not an option for the 2.2. This seems to be the defining part for the nose weight as the 2.5 engine shows 100kg for the manual, but only 75kg for the auto version. The 2.0 litre petrol engine is, I guess less powerful and so the tow weights and nose weights have been reduced accordingly.

Im think at the end of the day Nissan have opted for safety margins in order to ensure that their products are fit for purpose.

 

[Lutz]

The Nissan spec re noseweight is really strange because the only thing that really determines the noseweight limit is the body/chassis structure, not the engine nor the suspension (because you musn't exceed the GVW anyway), and defintiely not the transmission.