'Blathered' is that a Clipstone expression.Thank you SPG for acting as a responsible parent. I'm sure the vast majority of people on sites don't mind noise from children, I certainly don't. The problem lies where activities, whether it's kids OR adults, are likely to cause damage to others property. In all honesty I've only been to one adult site but that was for its canal side location, not to get away from kids. I agree with you about the adults too but usually that is noise, starting late evening and getting louder the more blathered they get :O(