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ScouseIan

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I am in need of some tyres for my car in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, each one is going to cost upwards of £200. My own fault for buying it I suppose.

Anyway, I've been looking into the idea of fitting part-worns. My own interpretation of these tyres has always been that the tyres that I take off my when I am changing to new ones are then sold off to scumbags who would drive round on next to illegal tyres. What I have been told is that in Europe where they fit winter tyres (for the winter) very often the old summer ones are discarded. I believe I can expect about 5 mm left on these tyres and they will be absolutely undamaged. All for about £50 each

I'm only posting on here to guage others opinions.

Ps, if you use the word 'safety' in your reply, please reference or clarify exactly which safety aspect you are referring to.

Regards

Ian
 
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make sure they're not off vechiles that have been written off in an accident.

I personally cant see an issue if the tread is of legal depth.

My only concearn would be if the tyre had been damaged in a RTC.

My other thought would be is it a false economy? as they have already worn down some , you'd need to replace them sooner than a brand new one full depth one. Would this , over time , negate any early savings?

Final plenty on online retailers , have you shopped around for best price yet?
 
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Hello again Ian,

Tyres fitted as original equipment on sportier/heavier VW's tend to be pricy and of softer compound for improved grip, which as a result reduces their longevity. They always seem to carry a low wear rating on the tyre wall.

Our last motor was the 5l V10 which was a tad torquey and ate tyres for brekky, however we went on to Hankooks which were much cheaper than the originals and lasted for ages with no noticeable reduction in performance. They also had the same speed and 'extra load' ratings as the originals and currently around
 
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hi ian i know afew people who buy part worn tyres but personaly i wouldnt touch them because not knowing the history of them,would you feel safe doing 70+mph i wouldnt.just bite the bullet,let the moths out of your wallet buy new feel safe!!!

go to blackcircles.com they have some premeium tyres
 
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Thanks everyone

Ken, are you saying that the Hankooks are not the same speed rating as the original tyres? I respect that someone is recommending them though and I will have a look.

William, remoulds have performance limitations. I wouldn't include remoulds in a discussion about part-worns as its a completely different proposition.

We all drive around on 'part worns' as soon as we start using them.

Ian
 
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Ian,

Correct - Originals on both cars were/are Y rated (up to 186 mph or 300 km/h)and the Hankooks I've gone for are W rated (up to 168 mph or 270 km/h.

The way I drive the 4x4, I could probably drop a few more speed ratings, but the Hankooks are well affordable at that price so it's not worth any further compromise.

I agree with what you're saying about us all being on 'part worns' as soon as we start using them, but we know the history of our own tyres.

It's perfectly possible for an 'unknown' tyre to have hit something at speed or been involved in a collision, severely weakening the internal structure without there being any outward sign of underlying damage and this is the risk being referred to.

You might stay lucky and get a good set, and you'll probably find people that have used that replacement method for years, but how much is the safety of your family worth ?
 
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Hi Scouse Ian, I personally would not touch part worn nor remoulds with a barge pole. In my opinion they are only of use to a boatsman to use as a fender. They may be just OK for someone running to their work and back (max 10 miles) Not for use on motorways, dual carriageways, or longer journeys espescially if you have some weight on the vehicle. Basically, between you and the road surface, there are 4 pieces of rubber about the same size as the sole of your shoe. But your shoes aint doing 60 or 70 MPH!!!! Not worth the risk in my book, as you only need to look at the amount of rubber lying on the hard shoulder of any motorway
 
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i would very much back ken up here. stay away from tyres which you do not know the history of.

tyres are your only contact with the road. if they fail you have a serious problem, and no cash saving will make you feel any better about it.
 
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Two points on this topic - first of all if they are part worn check the date on them as tyres tend to perrish after a few years and although appear OK will need replacing. Secondly regarding Hancooks tyres I had four new ones on my 4x4 and incl. balencing and valves came to
 
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Ian

It would help if you gave the tyre size.

However if the tyres are low profile, i wouldn't buy second hand.

These tyres are a pig to remove and fit, and damage can result.

When i had the misfortune to replace the Audi 225x45 r17,pirelli

tyres the fitters always had a struggle, and i found the tyres were prone to side wall bubble, over 4 years two tyres failed this way.

On the positive side, 5mm is very good for
 
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In years gone by, I've had to use second hand tyres due to the financial constraints of starting out on the housing ladder with a young family in tow. One point I used as a yard stick was to buy the tyres off a car of the same make as mine and to take the wheels off myself. That way I could see first hand if the car had been in an accident.

As for using a lower speed rated tyre, we are limited to 70 Mph in this country anyway and cars are speed limited to 155Mph by the manufacturers for safety reasons. So long as you know what the speed rating is for your tyres and drive within that limit you should be fine.

However having said that, you do need to ensure that your insurance company confirms to you in writing that using a tyre with a speed rating below that specified by the vehicle manufacturer as standard spec for your car, is acceptable to them and that it will not affect your policy in the event of a claim.

The best coarse of action would be to soarce correct new tyres in a budget brand.

Second hand tyres are realy only a desperation measure.

Steve L.
 
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Like Steve, years ago we used to buy part worn tyres as an economy measure. In our town (not very far from Steve) there was a tyre retailer on a small industrial estate who specialised in these. I believe they came from Germany and other parts of the continent. From memory, you were able to select which tyres you wanted fitted (with advice, of course), thus ensuring that the size etc was right and they got close inspection. The dealer is no longer there, but whether he just moved on, closed down or was closed down, I don't know!
 
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Turns out my sisters partners stepdad owns a part-worn tyre garage. I had met him a couple of times. I went up to see him a couple of weeks ago. He showed me the type and standard of tyres coming in. He buys all of his tyres himself in Austria (where they change tyres for winter) and never buys any repaired tyres. Anyway, he went over last week and brought me back 2 x 255/40 ZR19 100y (Pirelli pzero's) with 4-5 mm on them. He has only charged me
 
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I have been driving cars over the past few years which I have only leased for one year. Because of the requirement for winter tyres over here on the Continent and the fact I regularly change the model, this means that I would need a different second set of tyres for each car every year. I don't consider the cost, if I had to buy new ones, to be justifiable, so I have resorted to part-worn winter tyres. I can't say that I have been disappointed in any way.
 
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I think its a historic english thing. Part-worn tyres and remoulds just seemed to say dodgy, illegal traders. I think its different now. If you have a big 4x4 with tyres costing
 
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Hi all,

When it comes to remoulds... In our industry we use remoulds all the time. Speed rated up to 210mph. All the major companies use them.

My industry? Aircraft!

So when you bounce into Heathrow (or anywhere) just remember that it's remoulds that are taking the strain of 40+ tonnes at an impact of 300 ft per minute at speeds of 140 knots. OUCH!
 
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Hi all,

When it comes to remoulds... In our industry we use remoulds all the time. Speed rated up to 210mph. All the major companies use them.

My industry? Aircraft!

So when you bounce into Heathrow (or anywhere) just remember that it's remoulds that are taking the strain of 40+ tonnes at an impact of 300 ft per minute at speeds of 140 knots. OUCH!
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Sorry, 3000 ft per minute
 
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Hi all,

When it comes to remoulds... In our industry we use remoulds all the time. Speed rated up to 210mph. All the major companies use them.

My industry? Aircraft!

So when you bounce into Heathrow (or anywhere) just remember that it's remoulds that are taking the strain of 40+ tonnes at an impact of 300 ft per minute at speeds of 140 knots. OUCH!
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Ignore the 3000 ft comment....watch this instead..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5prz1Ae5QM
 
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