Peugeot 406 HDI 90hp

Jun 29, 2005
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Does anyone have experience of towing with a Peugeot 406 HDI 90hp (Not the 110) Estate and whether it would be up to towing an ABI Ace Jubilee Ambassador (made in 1980's).

We normally use Ford Maverik 2.7 Diesel which tows a dream but are going to be travelling through France in height of summer and could do with the aircon in the Peugeot!

TIA Geraint
 
Mar 28, 2005
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I tow with a Peugeot 406 (90} and it is a fine tow car until you come to a hill when depending on how steep it is it really struggles. I felt mine could do with a bit more grunt so I had it chipped at a cost of
 
Jun 29, 2005
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Thanks for reply - now that has provoked some thought. I hadn't considered the possibility of having it chipped, it drives like a slug even when not towing so might look into that. Presumably affects insurance though? What about any other downsides on engine life, etc?
 
Mar 27, 2005
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Hi

When I worked in motor sport I 'chipped' many cars (mainly Audi and VW) I cannot comment on the Peugeot and current results when chipping but certainly diesels produced more power when chipping than petrol cars there is a reason for this that would take volumes to explain. We never got that sort of percentage increase in power though and certainly in those days chip suppliers would 'dress up' their figures to sell the chips (they were more expensive in those days).

That said you do without a doubt get more power but it used to be at the cost of more fuel!

Any way I don't want to get bogged down in doubting people but one or two points of caution

First you will be told that chipping is not detectable and there is no need to tell insurance companies. Wrong. As I said I fitted loads, if you don't have an accident you are ok and most insurance assessors won't have a clue and you will get away with it. But trust me not all are and I have known many people come unstuck. More particularly with performance cars, granted, but none the less don't under-estimate them.

Secondly, and probably more importantly, the control units of cars, where the chips are fitted, are delicate when messed about with and not at all easy to work in. There is a high risk of subsequent break down and control unit failure often from dry or broken solder joints but also from poor quality chips. If your vehicle is recovered to a dealer they will detect a faulty control unit and replace it
 
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Hi guys, can I just clarify some points here, when I said chipped this is just a general term, what the engineer does is plug a laptop into the engine management system and installs a new programme into it altering the settings for the turbo boost pressure there is no soldering or changing any parts. As for why this can be done is bacause the engine is de-tuned at the factory to take into account that different parts of the world use different grades of fuel, sevice intervals are not adhered to,extemes of temperature etc. The factory takes an average of all the scenarios of all the different countrys the car will be exported to and and sets it to this. This then leaves scope for recovering power with a new programme.
 
Jun 29, 2005
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From what I have read so far it seems that on newer cars it is now possible to do as Big Roy says and just plug in a laptop and literally re-program rather than any physical change to the system.

I'm sure like in all things there are those that are less experienced than others at this procedure. Does anyone have any recommandations of decent companies in the midlands area?
 
Mar 14, 2005
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There are firms which do "upgrades" that you buy on a memory type stick which you plug into your car and it uploads a new programme for more torque etc when you take the car in for service just plug in your 'stick' and upload the manufacturers original programme which is also on the memory stick and voila your are back to a standard car and it is impossible for the dealer to know.
 
Jul 1, 2005
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Hi,there is a company near you called Shire Tuning,mobile or go to them.

I had my 90bhp Piccaso remapped to approx 120bhp and 230 lb/ft torque,took about half an hour.Guys name is Jamie,he travelled from midlands to Hampshire on a Saturday and charged me under
 
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Hi All

Further to my previous post I perhaps was not clear. Often a chip / re-map will not affect your premium (unless it's something outrageous) but it is necessary to inform your insurance company. Have your car chipped, don't tell insurance, insurance void. Have your car chipped, tell insurance, ok. I have the same scenario with my Job/hobby, because I handle explosives I have to declare this (even on my caravan insurance), it does not cost me any more but could be costly if I did not.
 

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