Pop-up inner bedroom for awning

[Sparks1]

We have a Fiamma Caravanstore Zip which is 4.1m long, 2.25m deep and 2m high at the 'shallow' end. The problem we have is supporting a traditional inner tent/bedroom due to there not being many poles on view. At the moment I use a couple of 25mm straps from one side to the other which is a bit Heath Robinson and takes ages to set up.
Does anybody know of a 'pop-up' bedroom affair or a cheap squarish (and tall) pop-up tent that would do the job? Something with the ground area of a double air bed preferably.
Is there even anybody that uses their Caravanstore Zip for accommodation?

 

[Sproket]

Something a bit like this

Maybe this would do size wise as it will take a double airbed & it's 1.90mts high ?
Quechua pop up tent

 

[Sparks1]

My daughter slept in a single pop-up tent (in the awning) last year and the condensation was imense. A two berth would have been better for one person I suppose but on occasions like last weekend we had three tenagers sleeping in the awning in two 'net' type inners so whatever solution has to be comfortable for at least two people (and be taller ideally).
This Quechua model looks as if it would be suitable but I can't justify that much money I'm afraid.
If I could find something like a toilet tent with the ground area of a double air bed (and a third of the Quechua price) then that would surely do. It doesn't even have to be waterproof or have pegging facilities.
Maybe I'm asking too much in terms of proportions but I'm really surprised Fiamma don't offer something like this. That's what made me wonder if nobody else uses the Caravanstore for sleeping in.

 

[Sparks1]

If all else fails then I will probably resign myself to using (well, not myself as it's for teenagers and they can cope better than me) ordinary pop-up tents of the cheap variety and use roll mats instead of air beds. This way they could be removed during the day making the awning usable, something not possible with air beds.

 

[TonyG]

Sparks
why don't you sell the flammia and buy a cheap awning. with bedroom annex

 

[Sparks1]

Sparks
why don't you sell the flammia and buy a cheap awning. with bedroom annex

No way, we had enough of lugging around a big awning and annex, and having to dry it out when we got home. We like being able to have just a canopy in seconds with the option for an extra room if we stay anywhere more than a day.
But thanks for the suggestion

 

[SilverSurfer]

Sparks, had this very same quandry only last week. I bought a pop up tent from Quechco and found it ok for a quick pitch but due to a very sloping back wall, once on an inflated air bed and pillow my face was touching the fabric, by moving down the tent my feet were hanging out of the door. Then I bought a basic dome tent which again was too short. The above were returned to the store and I found THE PERFECT awning 2 person dome tent from Asda, 210 x 180 base size, free standing so you can move it around, no pegs required, single skin, good ventilation with side door ........ Cost £12. If you you text me on 07880855946 I will send you a photo of it.
Hope you get sorted

 

[Sparks1]

Thanks Silver Surfer, is it this one, now reduced to £10.80?
We've got a three berth tent like that (which is too large) but I don't like the long 'poles'. I was hoping for something quicker but also that could be deployed inside the awning rather than erected outside then moved into the awning.
Why is it these days everything I consider for the caravan I have to allow for it raining?

 

[HenryB1]

I am not sure what possible fixings you have in your Fiamma but I use the very thin bungy cord in our awning to support an inner tent. easy to set up and tensions everything so it looks like a professional fit.

 

[SilverSurfer]

Yes,that's the one, I used it for a fortnight with no condensation or problem at all, I removed the clip on roof cover to sleep just under the mesh, the door also has a full mesh panel. For function and even lower price this can not be bettered in my opinion. The awning extension I have used for a few years will now be going up for sale!

 

[Sparks1]

There's not much in the way of poles for hanging stuff in the Fiamma. The end poles are enclosed once the end panels are zipped on and the centre rafter (which is intended only as a support to stop rain collecting on the canopy) only rests in a loop of fabric on the caravan wall side. I have used the small 25mm webbing straps that have a buckle on one end which can be fed around the end poles/rafters before the sides are completely fastened. This effectively gives a couple of 'washing lines' that I attach the inner tent to with the addition of bungee cords, elastic bands, string etc. Not a pretty sight.
I'd love to fetch something out of a bag and through it on the ground whereby it magically transforms into a suitable compartment for shy teenagers.

 

[Sparks1]

Yes,that's the one

Net protection would be good, especially when we're at the Med and the mozzies are about. I already have a good self-inflating roll-mat so I may invest in one more and find a two berth pop-up tent that fits the dimensions. It means not having the headroom of course but if there's nothing available cube shaped then that will have to do.
I've spent days searching pictures on the net to no avail

 

[philspot1]

Have you considered this: Royal Utility Tent : 200x200 and quite tall

 

[Sparks1]

Looks interesting. I can't tell from the picturte, but do you think the poles stay in place on the tent? Or do they have to be threaded into place?
I have a Kyham drive away awning/tent for the van (which works a bit like an umbrella) and if it opoened up like that it would be ideal.