Road tax and emissions

[Stephen_374341239]

At present we have 7 bands of road tax. The MPs wish to bring in 13 bands of road tax. OK I know its all to do wih emissions but tax poeple on something thay have already purchased does not seem very far. If the Gov were to bring in these new emission charges from next year. People purchasing a car do then have a chioce and are not being ripped off from a chioce thay had made years back.

If this does come in I for one will never ever vote for these people ever again.

 

[RogerP]

I think you're leaning against an open door there. This usbject has been thrashed to death on this forum already.

 

[Alex_374373826]

If they come in then those who work at Landrover and Jaguar will probably do the same. This mob do not seem to appreciate that playing with the tax in this arbitrary way destroys jobs and lives. But hey ho this is democracy.

 

[Mikey1]

They have already done the back dated road fund tax on Band G* (226g/km and above ).They introduced this tax in April 2007 and back dated it to cars registered from March 23rd 2006.

Annoyed as i ordered a car in March 2007 in this band thinking the tax would be around

 

[Stephen_374341239]

I am sorry but I must be bloody thick how can someone back date somthing and we let them get away with it. That just leaves the door wide open or them to just do what ever thay like.

 

[Stephen_374341239]

If you go into a shop ad buy goods for set price thay cannot come back to you and ask for more money

 

[Guest]

Stephen, we live in a democracy which is New Labour speak for total control. You do as you are told, and they do what they like. Your only reason for being here is to vote for them as directed.

There only 2 or 3 subjects which cancel out all forms of debate. One is Security, the second is environmental and the third is MP's expenses. If any of these subjects are raised in connection with any topic whatsoever, then debate/discussion is not allowed.

If you know of anyone who voted for these morons not once, not twice but 3 times then you are at liberty to ask them just how dumb were they.

 

[Ivorwetwun]

Watch everyone vote for a fourth time after our beloved president lowers taxes and calls for a snap election!!!

 

[MikeJE]

Apart from the unfairness of retrospective taxation what produces more pollution - a 2.9 c.c. vehicle, like mine, that does 18,000 miles per year tootling around with two retirees or the guy along the road who does 47,000 miles per year with a 1.9.c.c. engine? And to have any time to do a reasonable amount of work when he gets to wherever he is going he must have to crack along at a fair old fuel consuming C.O.2 producing pace. Then there is the old boy across the way (1.9.c.c. again) who gets his car out perhaps once every three weeks to visit family. But only if the weather is nice.

Life is unfair.

And then you die.

 

[paul.bower]

have a look at this link, maybe things are about to change!!!!!

http://www.parkers.co.uk/news/

 

[MikeJE]

Paul,

That has cheered me up no end. Still unfair on the old guy going out once in three weeks though.

 

[Mikey1]

They are only going to defer it for a year then in 2010 back dated to 2006.

Problem is the government has taken into account the extra revenue this was going to bring into the coffers,they will still need to find this money from somewhere

 

[DavidW1]

Stephen,

Has not the penny dropped yet? Goverments, ALL Goverments, try and get the most tax out of anyone with money. On cars they reason the larger the car the more money the owner has so they milk them for more.

Fairness and the environment don't come into it mate if they think you have more money than the next man then they will nick it. They dress the process up behind various smokescreens but the end result is the same, pay up or face prosecution and then pay even more or go to jail.

I lived in various developing countries in my working life and the Phillipine and Indonesian Gov's were really cute in getting their money - the tax system was in total dissaray due mainly to corruption which meant the richer you were the less tax you payed. Both countries had a travel tax system though which nicked about

 

[g_374369443]

Mike E, I think you made a bad chose for your argument. assuming the 1.9 that does that type of mileage being a diesel,and assuming your 2.9 is a 4x4 diesel, then the 1.9 could easily get 2 and half times more miles per gallon. and 47k miles a year, well thats only 200 miles a day over a 5 day week, so no need for anyone to rush.sure this new hike sucks, but jesus it has been on the cards for years, the government keeps talking about co2 and road vehicles.

 

[Guest]

The point I was making in my usual cynical fashion is that Brown and Blair inherited the strongest economy in the developed world as well as the best pension provision of any nation, and within a decade had turned it into a basket case.

They also introduced the Devolution Act as a scheme by which they could rule unchallenged for eternity, but that backfired. I keep repeating that the SNP did not win power because everybody supported them, it was singulary because everybody was sick to death of the corruption of Labour and would have voted for a blind dog instead of them. Scots have not voted Tory since the 1950's so there was little chance there, and as the LibDems are Labour's poodles, why would anyone vote for them? Do not be fooled by the Glenrothes By Election. This was an area where the average intelligence is just above base ignorance, and would vote Labour even if Hell was promised. I know, I lived there.

I do not know if a change in Government will make any real difference, mainly because I suspect the UK is so far into debt that nothing can be changed for probably a generation. Scotland is unlikely to fare much better, but at least we can sink on our own sins, not others.

Emigration would be a good option if I could find a place that would a) have me because of age and b) not follow the same trail in time. Looking at Spain makes me nervous, especially with the Euro so high against the Pound.

 

[g_374369443]

The point I was making in my usual cynical fashion is that Brown and Blair inherited the strongest economy in the developed world as well as the best pension provision of any nation, and within a decade had turned it into a basket case.

They also introduced the Devolution Act as a scheme by which they could rule unchallenged for eternity, but that backfired. I keep repeating that the SNP did not win power because everybody supported them, it was singulary because everybody was sick to death of the corruption of Labour and would have voted for a blind dog instead of them. Scots have not voted Tory since the 1950's so there was little chance there, and as the LibDems are Labour's poodles, why would anyone vote for them? Do not be fooled by the Glenrothes By Election. This was an area where the average intelligence is just above base ignorance, and would vote Labour even if Hell was promised. I know, I lived there.

I do not know if a change in Government will make any real difference, mainly because I suspect the UK is so far into debt that nothing can be changed for probably a generation. Scotland is unlikely to fare much better, but at least we can sink on our own sins, not others.

Emigration would be a good option if I could find a place that would a) have me because of age and b) not follow the same trail in time. Looking at Spain makes me nervous, especially with the Euro so high against the Pound.

You say all that scotch lad,then consider Spain! A country which is suffering far worse than its EU relatives. Can we lay the blame on Brown and Blair for that too.... lol.

 

[Guest]

You say all that scotch lad,then consider Spain! A country which is suffering far worse than its EU relatives. Can we lay the blame on Brown and Blair for that too.... lol.

You are making connections which are not correct. Spain has problems because it relied on a construction industry to create a false sense of prosperity, very similar to Blair and Brown basing prosperity on debt, so in that respect there are similarities. Both relied on ever increasing house prices to fuel growth. Countries where that did not occur have not descended into the morass anywhere near as much.

My concerns with Spain, and in fact it was Mallorca I was looking at , not the mainland is that the rise in the value of the Euro has meant a 30-40% drop in purchasing power of the pound. That is a heck of a drop over 1 year and would make any finacial programme in retirement very dodgy.