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I either use it free or use use my mobile if I need somehing specific on the bigger PC screen I connect the laptop via bluetooth to the phone.
Maybe a 50p a day would be OK but
Maybe a 50p a day would be OK but
Sorry cris but if you want the service you have to pay, I think we are the only site in the uk with broadband anyway, unless you know different. You are still my forum pal, Kind Regards Liz
P.S I am ready and waiting if he dares to show his face in Cornwall.Hey Liz I am winning - Colin 1 Lord B. 0. He has come to admit defeat. Although this is only a moral victory it is great for the ego when battle commences.
You are joking Liz.
Quite a lot of sites offer wifi and free, I understand that quite a few CL's have open access that customers can use.
We went to Eire two years ago and the sites there had FREE wifi broadband.
Beemermal has posted that he has got found free open access at the he has gone to in Spain.
Sorry but
Quite a lot of sites offer wifi and free, I understand that quite a few CL's have open access that customers can use.
We went to Eire two years ago and the sites there had FREE wifi broadband.
Beemermal has posted that he has got found free open access at the he has gone to in Spain.
Sorry but
You are joking Liz.
Quite a lot of sites offer wifi and free, I understand that quite a few CL's have open access that customers can use.
We went to Eire two years ago and the sites there had FREE wifi broadband.
Beemermal has posted that he has got found free open access at the he has gone to in Spain.
Sorry but
I am sorry cris but I think you will find we were the first UK caravan park to have wifi. and if any other site does not charge for this service well they are crazy. You can always sit outside a trading estate who might have wifi but you will still have to pay. Convenience of the service, I personally think thats quite reasonable. Liz
What are you on tonight Liz ?
You have not said when your site got broadband, not that it really matters!
You wrote a little earlier - " I think we are the only site in the uk with broadband anyway " You were actually way off the mark with that one.
You have just written - "You can always sit outside a trading estate who might have wifi but you will still have to pay."
Why ?
I visit a supplier on Slough tarding estate and can log an to about 2O free wifi hot spots or sit outside or in the McDonalds on the edge of the estate and use BT Openzone free for up to 250 minutes a month.
You have not said when your site got broadband, not that it really matters!
You wrote a little earlier - " I think we are the only site in the uk with broadband anyway " You were actually way off the mark with that one.
You have just written - "You can always sit outside a trading estate who might have wifi but you will still have to pay."
Why ?
I visit a supplier on Slough tarding estate and can log an to about 2O free wifi hot spots or sit outside or in the McDonalds on the edge of the estate and use BT Openzone free for up to 250 minutes a month.
Cris, put your glasses on, I said we were the first site to have broadband in the Uk. We are not an open network. Those people who have broadband have not entertered security code are mad. I can stand outside a well known company with my laptp and get hotspots but I still need a code to pick up internet. Liz
I quoted what you said Liz. Read 5 post above your last post where you said I am your pal.
Only two posts above did you say your site was the first with broadband!
Unless you said it somewhere else before I logged in tonight.
Many many businesses offer free broadband wifi connaction as a service to clients, I do myself!
You do not need any code if the access is open and many businesses have open access, what you say in your last sentence is completely wrong.
My daugther was working in Derbyshire today and took her laptop outside one of her offices whilst she had lunch, she got free access from a nearby business and spoke on Skype to her brother and I in his Brighton pub.
Only two posts above did you say your site was the first with broadband!
Unless you said it somewhere else before I logged in tonight.
Many many businesses offer free broadband wifi connaction as a service to clients, I do myself!
You do not need any code if the access is open and many businesses have open access, what you say in your last sentence is completely wrong.
My daugther was working in Derbyshire today and took her laptop outside one of her offices whilst she had lunch, she got free access from a nearby business and spoke on Skype to her brother and I in his Brighton pub.
I did say we were the first caravavan site to have broadband in the uk,(CARAVAN PARK) do you know different? If you don't have a security code anybody can log on to your internet, not only businesses, but home owners who have broadband if they do not have security code anybody can log on, your daughter was lucky obviously the company she was logging onto did not enter security code. Liz
Liz.
I don't see what your problem is, first you mentioned being the "only" site in the UK with broadband and secondly you mentioned being the first!
I'm well aware of open access and internet I have my own IT guy called as it happens Chris and my daughter is a specialist software IT consultant. She can remotely log into servers and do whatever thay do to servers to sort them out or add programmes and security. Her clients call her to resolve security issues and software conflicts, if there is a particular issue her programmers re write the prog and she installs and tests it remotely.
I don't see what your problem is, first you mentioned being the "only" site in the UK with broadband and secondly you mentioned being the first!
I'm well aware of open access and internet I have my own IT guy called as it happens Chris and my daughter is a specialist software IT consultant. She can remotely log into servers and do whatever thay do to servers to sort them out or add programmes and security. Her clients call her to resolve security issues and software conflicts, if there is a particular issue her programmers re write the prog and she installs and tests it remotely.
I have not got a problem, get your facts right, all a long I have said we were the first Caravan Site to have wifi, The First, prove it if I am wrong, then I will say sorry. secondly it does not take an IP consultant to insert a security code. More for those who do not use one, its an open network to anybody with a laptop to sit outside someones house and use their broadband. I have skype, webcam the lot. I have use of all of these because I have security code from wifi here, without the code its useless. Liz
Liz I was just pointing out that my girl should have a clue to what she is doing.
Your security code system is no different to my code to use BT openzones FOC for 250 mins a month.
You posts were as follows -
"15 Mar 2007 12:47 PM - Hi Oldogey, perhaps this should be put forward to cc and ccc sites to install broadband, we have it here up and running for about 1 year"
"15 Mar 2007 11:40 PM - I think we are the only site in the uk with broadband anyway,"
"16 Mar 2007 00:16 AM - I think you will find we were the first UK caravan park to have wifi. "
As we were using FREE broadband wifi on a small quite basic western Eire site two years ago and i believe it was not new there and as thousands of companies offer free WIFI as a service to their customers and you can go on the net and get lists of them I doubt that your site getting it about a year ago made you the 1st.
Apart from companies offering official free open wifi if you know where to look you can download Satnav co-ordinates that will show where to park for the nearest free open un-official access.
Yesterday in my sons pub we had free open access, they have a huge sign saying FREE WIFI outside as to other places.
My present mobile phone gets email and the internet and links to my PC when needed. I've just been given am increase on my free download usage.
Some networks offer completely free unlimited usage like my daughters T-mobile web n walk withing her monthly phone contract that she to can connect to her laptops.
If your site is paying a lot for your broadband connections and needs people to pay
Your security code system is no different to my code to use BT openzones FOC for 250 mins a month.
You posts were as follows -
"15 Mar 2007 12:47 PM - Hi Oldogey, perhaps this should be put forward to cc and ccc sites to install broadband, we have it here up and running for about 1 year"
"15 Mar 2007 11:40 PM - I think we are the only site in the uk with broadband anyway,"
"16 Mar 2007 00:16 AM - I think you will find we were the first UK caravan park to have wifi. "
As we were using FREE broadband wifi on a small quite basic western Eire site two years ago and i believe it was not new there and as thousands of companies offer free WIFI as a service to their customers and you can go on the net and get lists of them I doubt that your site getting it about a year ago made you the 1st.
Apart from companies offering official free open wifi if you know where to look you can download Satnav co-ordinates that will show where to park for the nearest free open un-official access.
Yesterday in my sons pub we had free open access, they have a huge sign saying FREE WIFI outside as to other places.
My present mobile phone gets email and the internet and links to my PC when needed. I've just been given am increase on my free download usage.
Some networks offer completely free unlimited usage like my daughters T-mobile web n walk withing her monthly phone contract that she to can connect to her laptops.
If your site is paying a lot for your broadband connections and needs people to pay
Hello Cris, Cor that was a long post I had to read from you, nevertheless you kindly pointed out my posts, I still stick to what I said.
People stay here bring their Laptops they will find we have Hotspot, if they want to use internet they have to come into office, whe give them a ticket which has 2 sets of codes to be entered in,without these codes they cannot access the internet.
Secondly the owner did pay quite a lot of money to get this all set up for people to use, so therefore it's a service, and after all he his running a business not a charity, for this service people will have to pay if they want to use it. The charge is quite reasonable; we have no complaints so far that it's too expensive.
The way I read your post was that your daughter could use hotspots bypassing security codes. I do apologise if I read your post wrong, but that's the way I read it.
At the end of the day, as I said it's very useful for people staying here and maybe want to collect their emails, and sit in the comfort of their own van, without chasing around whilst on holiday trying to find a hotspot area, I think that's fair don't you.
If you park your car in the car park you have to pay that's not free is it.
As for me calling you forum pal, well that's what you are, aren't you, we discuss different topics you have your opinion I have mine, that's why it's a very interesting forum to have people like you, who sometimes not always right. Regards Liz
People stay here bring their Laptops they will find we have Hotspot, if they want to use internet they have to come into office, whe give them a ticket which has 2 sets of codes to be entered in,without these codes they cannot access the internet.
Secondly the owner did pay quite a lot of money to get this all set up for people to use, so therefore it's a service, and after all he his running a business not a charity, for this service people will have to pay if they want to use it. The charge is quite reasonable; we have no complaints so far that it's too expensive.
The way I read your post was that your daughter could use hotspots bypassing security codes. I do apologise if I read your post wrong, but that's the way I read it.
At the end of the day, as I said it's very useful for people staying here and maybe want to collect their emails, and sit in the comfort of their own van, without chasing around whilst on holiday trying to find a hotspot area, I think that's fair don't you.
If you park your car in the car park you have to pay that's not free is it.
As for me calling you forum pal, well that's what you are, aren't you, we discuss different topics you have your opinion I have mine, that's why it's a very interesting forum to have people like you, who sometimes not always right. Regards Liz
We recently had dealings with sombody who was going to set up an internet cafe business within their present business.
The experts salesman gave them all the answers they needed and only by chance did somebody step in and prevent financial disaster.
I'm not suggesting that will be the case for your sites wifi system, but free wifi is becoming more and more common as a service.
No doubt if you just want a quick look on the net many will pay
The experts salesman gave them all the answers they needed and only by chance did somebody step in and prevent financial disaster.
I'm not suggesting that will be the case for your sites wifi system, but free wifi is becoming more and more common as a service.
No doubt if you just want a quick look on the net many will pay
I think that there are rather different models operating here.
Certain business, eg Starbucks, offer free Wifi to entice you in (after all, their coffee is no inducement).
This, and much of the other free or included in other cost services that Cris is talking about are usually in town centres etc. Popular with the business traveller.
The caravanner, however, does not necessarily want to lug a laptop around with them when they are out seeing the sights, they want to log on in the evening from the comfort of their unit. As yet, their numbers are relatively small, and the number of sites offering facilities is also small, so there is not much pressure on prices.
As more sites realise there is a market, and as the cost of provision drops, availablity will increase and prices will drop. As that happens, any owners who are tied in to a restrictive contract and high prices will find that they are making a loss, as those who really want the service will go elswhere.
There are, of course, those who find an unprotected Wifi site, either private or business, and quietly log on to it. This is illegal without the owners permission, as you are stealing their bandwidth; on a practical level, you could cause them to reach their download limit and have their service stop - not a friendly thing to do.
Certain business, eg Starbucks, offer free Wifi to entice you in (after all, their coffee is no inducement).
This, and much of the other free or included in other cost services that Cris is talking about are usually in town centres etc. Popular with the business traveller.
The caravanner, however, does not necessarily want to lug a laptop around with them when they are out seeing the sights, they want to log on in the evening from the comfort of their unit. As yet, their numbers are relatively small, and the number of sites offering facilities is also small, so there is not much pressure on prices.
As more sites realise there is a market, and as the cost of provision drops, availablity will increase and prices will drop. As that happens, any owners who are tied in to a restrictive contract and high prices will find that they are making a loss, as those who really want the service will go elswhere.
There are, of course, those who find an unprotected Wifi site, either private or business, and quietly log on to it. This is illegal without the owners permission, as you are stealing their bandwidth; on a practical level, you could cause them to reach their download limit and have their service stop - not a friendly thing to do.
What I initially posted as a generalisation has now become very technical and has gone over my head. Perhaps this is why I do not envisage taking a computer on holidays. Gee I must either be thick or a dinosaur.
Well I didn't even give it a thought who posted this topic in the first place, I should have known it was you Colin, now see what you have done, but still a very interesting replies.
I have to agree with some of cris's comments, but I would say our internet system was well looked into by the owners here and also it was a well known company that fitted it.
Also good comments made by Oldfrey. So to Colin well done for bringing the topic up in the first place.
I have to agree with some of cris's comments, but I would say our internet system was well looked into by the owners here and also it was a well known company that fitted it.
Also good comments made by Oldfrey. So to Colin well done for bringing the topic up in the first place.
Some of what Oldfogey says is quite valid.
Starbucks is just an example and many more businesses are following and with open access you don't need to walk in and buy anything, lads of B&B's and iother small businesses are offering free wifi and in some unlikely places.
Wifi enabled phones are likely to become the norm or smaller tablet PC's you will not have a ticket to the theatre or say the Eden Project, you'll book on line via pc or internet enabled phone and the ticket will be sent to your phone and just scanned from the screen at the venue.
You'll also not be carrying cash or a card to pay, your phone will pay by credit or debit card, it's already started in Japan and other places.
As for stealing bandwidth, leave you car with the keys in and not only will it be taken but your insureres will not pay out and the police will think you are mad.
More and more people and places have unlimited broadband access so its not really a problem, and it's easy to stop other users if you want to.
Starbucks is just an example and many more businesses are following and with open access you don't need to walk in and buy anything, lads of B&B's and iother small businesses are offering free wifi and in some unlikely places.
Wifi enabled phones are likely to become the norm or smaller tablet PC's you will not have a ticket to the theatre or say the Eden Project, you'll book on line via pc or internet enabled phone and the ticket will be sent to your phone and just scanned from the screen at the venue.
You'll also not be carrying cash or a card to pay, your phone will pay by credit or debit card, it's already started in Japan and other places.
As for stealing bandwidth, leave you car with the keys in and not only will it be taken but your insureres will not pay out and the police will think you are mad.
More and more people and places have unlimited broadband access so its not really a problem, and it's easy to stop other users if you want to.
Unfortunately the problem with "unlimited bandwidth" is that it very rarely is. The headline of the ad says unlimited usage, but if you look in the small print you find "subject to fair usage policy". This means that if they think you are using too much - undefined, their decision - your service will stop.
This is a scam that will be stopped soon, as it is false advertsing and probably unfair contract terms.
This is a scam that will be stopped soon, as it is false advertsing and probably unfair contract terms.
O F, do you know anybody who has exceeded a broadband allowance?
Loads of people do but the companies can't afford to lose the business so I understand a lot just turn a blind eye.
With internet TV from Joost and others coming online if they start restricting they will lose customers.
Loads of people do but the companies can't afford to lose the business so I understand a lot just turn a blind eye.
With internet TV from Joost and others coming online if they start restricting they will lose customers.
Not sure about that problem you mentioned, myself,The Manager,Owner we all have unlimited usuage here. I think he did look into quite a bit before deciding to install it. I am not complaining I just tap in my secret codes and I am on line, I expect its the perks of Job. Liz
On broadband usage I think they only worry about people who are in peer to peer (P2P) networks where downloading of videos etc can mean that some users connections will be at close to full tilt all the time.
I am sure I have exceeded my allowance in the past but have never heard anything about it.
I am sure I have exceeded my allowance in the past but have never heard anything about it.
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