Snobbery on site

[Icemaker]

of course you could look at it the other way, in that some peoples idea of a snob is actually envy.

We have a brand new van and a fairly new car, we sometimes go to commerciall sites and party all afternoon and in to the night in the clubhouse, does this make us lager louts and not real caravanners ?. sometimes we prefer to go to a quiet country site and sit outside the van with a bottle of wine and a book, does that make us snobs and not real caravanners ?.

No it does not make us either it just meens we are doing what we want to do and not what others expect us to do. leave others to do what they want and spend less time watching what they are doing. The person you have spent all weekend watching probably see's your perception of snobbery as envy and will not communicate with you in case you perceive that as gloating.

 

[Angus1]

The original point of the thread was to raise a debate on attitudes, not what you may or may not choose to do on site, or even the age of ones outfit. The suggestion that the accusation of snobbery could actually be raised because of `envy` I find shallow and conceited.

Anyone who actually read the previous posts would realise that those with older outfits seem content with their lot, I can`t recall a single "I wish" in any of the posts.

It`s the people who can`t see beyond the price tags and gloss that the original comment was made about.

Those who judge others based upon their chosen ( or available) expenditure on car and caravan are as stupid as the fools who believe I holiday in my van because I `can`t afford a proper holiday`

 

[Icemaker]

Angus you may see the quote as "shallow and conceited" but you have written a thread wherebye you class some as snobs just becouse they have a new outfit and i quote " `vanners that regard size and age as status symbols".

I have allways had new vans mainly as i would rather spend my money than give it to the tax man and a new van every few years suits me, but i am in no way a snob which is what i was trying to get over to you in my last post by indicating the different ways i spend my time on site.

From your post it would seem that you regard any person with a new car and van as a snob especially if they choose to have a quiet weekend without bothering others, i could take offence to the fact that you regard me as a snob due to material posetions but i really dont care much as i have such a wide variety of friends on sites that i am also probably the one some are calling for having too good a time with the large gatherings for barbeques etc.

Some really should try to forget what others have or dont have, it really does not matter as long as they are doing what they want and not what you or anyone else wants them to do.

Material posetions do not make me a snob but ignorance of the facts could make you seem envious, that is what i was trying to put over.

 

[Angus1]

Sorry Icemaker, but you got the wrong end of the stick.

My towcar is less than two weeks old, which neither makes me better or worse than anyone else. If I thought that a `56` reg car was a status symbol I would be as bad as the people I dislike.

Once again I will reiterate that it is attitudes not possessions that are unpleasant.

Unlike yourself, I am not a `social animal` (not a criticism) but prefer a quieter life, and agree that we should all be free to do what we wish as along as it doesn`t impact adversely on others around us.

What I was getting at was the people who look at the age of something and form opinions.If someone doesn`t like me because of who I am that is fine.If they don`t like me because of my car,van,clothes,hair,dog whatever then they are morons.

 

[Wendy-Norfolk]

Sorry Icemaker, but you got the wrong end of the stick.

My towcar is less than two weeks old, which neither makes me better or worse than anyone else. If I thought that a `56` reg car was a status symbol I would be as bad as the people I dislike.

Once again I will reiterate that it is attitudes not possessions that are unpleasant.

Unlike yourself, I am not a `social animal` (not a criticism) but prefer a quieter life, and agree that we should all be free to do what we wish as along as it doesn`t impact adversely on others around us.

What I was getting at was the people who look at the age of something and form opinions.If someone doesn`t like me because of who I am that is fine.If they don`t like me because of my car,van,clothes,hair,dog whatever then they are morons.

Good posting Angus!

Too many people put too much emphasis on material items. It can make your life easier, but it doesn't make it better!!

 

[RogerL]

Icemaker

"I'd rather spend my money than give it to the taxman" try investing

 

[Icemaker]

It would be nice to be able to Roger, but then the powers that be would start asking too many questions. i'll let you in to a little secret, as well as driving trains i still do the odd bit of dj'ing in night clubs ? voluntary and without pay of course;.

 

[dazicki]

obviously hit a nerve with this topic given the amount of replies so can i just say i am not a snob i couldnt care less what you sleep in im proud of my van and if ever any of you are on a site and you see 2 or sometimes 3 pirate flags fly you know your welcome to come and have a brew with us my dads a bit of a nutter but we are all friendly and only bite if we dont get fed(if dads bbqing thats guarenteed)

 

[LMH]

I loved my other van (18 years of age) but it met with an unhappy end so I had to replace it with a younger model.

I also loved my other car (52 reg) but that met with an unhappy end too so that had to be replaced with a younger model.

There are some snobs on site, there are some snobs where I live. Not much one can do about that except if anyone came to our caravan or home, they'd recieve a warm welcome.

Lisa

 

[LMH]

'recieve' should have read 'receive'.

Too much Cava!!

Lisa

 

[rayc]

I just wondered how you can tell that somebody is a snob? Perhaps they just don't like you, or anybody else for that matter. Perhaps they are shy - who knows.

I've caravanned for 20 years or so doing the normal thing of staring of with old Cortinas and 10 year old van, I now have a brand new CRV and van.

I don't find I am treated any different now than I was then - I'm still ignored. Perhaps this caravanning isn't as friendly as its cracked up to be.

 

[BrianStAlbans]

I loved my other van (18 years of age) but it met with an unhappy end so I had to replace it with a younger model.

I also loved my other car (52 reg) but that met with an unhappy end too so that had to be replaced with a younger model.

...this reminds me of how I met Bina ;O)

 

[LMH]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

As you know Lisa I'm beyond hope ;O)

 

[LMH]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

If I didn't know you, I would have believed you were a good catholic after seeing you in your robes!

Lisa

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

Born a Roman Catholic, born again Atheist, married to a Hindu AND a car salesman there's only one one to go........

...and it aint UP !!!

Brian (",)

 

[LMH]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

Fancy admitting you're a car salesman, that's gonna make you go to that very warm place.

Lisa

 

[BrianStAlbans]

Brian you naughty person.

Well, we live in hope !!!!!!

Lisa

Benidorm ?

 

[WatsonJohnG]

Icemaker

"I'd rather spend my money than give it to the taxman" try investing

 

[simon_5071947]

We love the "slightly quirky snobbery" factor on site.

Me and the clan (1 wife 2 kids, 6 years & 2 years and a tad noisy!!!) have just returned from a site near Wickham. Lovely site, been there before, local to us etc.

One morning a gent in a caravan opposite treks to shower block wearing a shirt and tie, gingerly carrying another clean shirt and tie on coat hanger!! Fantastic. Spoke to him that eveing (actually apoligised for our slightly noisy kids) he was the nicest down to earth bloke you could wish to meet. Just goes to show don't judge books by cover etc.

We have a lunar zenith 4, not the biggest or best van, but have always found people on ANY site that are more than willing to chat, socialise with etc regardless of the out fit they have. (Maybe we've just got lucky and ALWAYS picked good sites!!)

Just chill and don't worry about what other people are like!! Within reason of course.

Simon V

 

[Ewan_5130997]

My wife, two kids and I are new to caravanning this year. We have managed to get to about 7 sites this year and I am amazed how there is always someone who will stop and chat or wave good morning as you pass on the way to the showers.

At a recent visit to Loch Ness, we had only just arrived and the German tourists in their motorhome next to us had came out and said hello, the crowd in the site pub were all great fun and on leaving, a Spanish gent from the next pitch ran over to help us push the van round to hitch up.

Even a smile and a wave on passing gives me hope that the art of being just plain 'nice' has not yet left us all.

If you ever see a Bailey Ranger 550/6 with a Scotland hitch cover, me and the wife (early 40's with smiles and drink in hand), two kids (13 and 9), and a mental Lhasso Apso, pop in. There is always a bottle of wine in the fridge and a case of Stella under the bunk.

 

[dragon32a]

I have an 83 elddis Hurricane. I know I bang on about it but it does every thing a

 

[baxtjhn@aol.com]

Simon your post reminds me of a similar thing many years ago.

We were like yourself myself ,wife and two kids in our 4 berth ancient Sprite Alpine towing with a Mark 3 Cortina.

We were on a site in the lake district and the weather was brilliant for the full week (unusual in the lakes).

There was a middle aged couple in the pitch next to us and one evening we were sitting outside enjoying a cool beer,our van was sitting side on to their van which meant we were facing their awning,anyway the guy was busy cooking on a small portable bbq and the wife was setting the table in the awning complete with candles..they both got dressed for dinner complete with collar and tie etc.

The guy pulled out the seat for his wife to sit down and then took his own seat after pouring the wine.

By this time I was almost having a fit and "she who must be obeyed" was saying how romantic this all was and heres me sitting with shorts with the obligatory socks and sandals on.

(it was standard dress in those days)

Like you I spoke to the guy later on in the evening and he was a really nice person and during the conversation he said he and his wife ran a business in yorkshire and both worked really hard and meals were usually taken on a tray late at night in front on the tv.

When they came away on holiday this was there time for one another which makes sense and makes you think,we all possibly do similar things or our own version when on holiday.

To end I was not judging or critisising the couple ,it was just something I had never seen before on a caravan holiday.

They enjoyed it and thats what counts..........

 

[GillandMike]

Hi John b

I wonder if they were the same people we were parked nest to at Sandringham a few weeks ago. The awning was immaculate with nice carpeting, chairs and table and loungers, a heater in the form of a gas patio heater (not sure of the safety of that in an awning) and candlelit suppers. They seemed to spend most of the time in the awning even on the cooler evenings, playing cards or dominos. We felt a right pair of slobs lounging in front of the telly in the van with our awnings full of wet dogs, coats and walking boots! Still we had a lovely 3 weeks of walking and bird watching which I can recommend to anybody with an interest in birds (the feathered kind) RSPB Titchwell was a revelation and a great place to while away a few hours. Learnt an aweful lot about waders and ducks. Still I digress, snobbery on site, well I haven't really come across any but have found some sites where people seem to talk more easily than others. Can't think of a reason for that. Dogs seem to be good ice breakers if you share the interest and children usually pal up and you get to know their parents. Some years ago when our children came with us we seemed to follow one family around as we toured Northern England, much to my daughters delight.

Gill