According to the local news 2 caravans have been stolen from the HOOK area of Hampshire in the last week .
If you live in this area BEWARE.
Tom
If you live in this area BEWARE.
Tom
Stolen vans
- Thread starter theothertom
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now is the time for anyone who cares about their caravan to
get a tracker system there are a few on the market. Some you
pay a yearly subscription and one the METIS you only pay a one
off price to have it fitted and it is programmed to your home
computer and mobile phone, as soon as caravan is moved it sends
you a message and you can track it yourself while you phone the
police
get a tracker system there are a few on the market. Some you
pay a yearly subscription and one the METIS you only pay a one
off price to have it fitted and it is programmed to your home
computer and mobile phone, as soon as caravan is moved it sends
you a message and you can track it yourself while you phone the
police
Can I assume that you work for METIS. The original "Tracker" does all this and ahs been on the police systems since inception as they were the first.
Ian No I do not work for Metis but I did have one fitted to
my caravan in december, and in the present financial climate
it seems a good way to protect your caravan without any extra
outlay. Mind you I wont know if it works until someone pinches
it
jim
my caravan in december, and in the present financial climate
it seems a good way to protect your caravan without any extra
outlay. Mind you I wont know if it works until someone pinches
it
jim
Some thing i would like to know !
How far would a caravan thief go in stealing a caravan !
Has anyone or do you know of anyone who has had there
caravan stolen whilst they were on holiday in it.
Like went out for the day in car, arrive back to site after
tea caravan nicked !
How far would a caravan thief go in stealing a caravan !
Has anyone or do you know of anyone who has had there
caravan stolen whilst they were on holiday in it.
Like went out for the day in car, arrive back to site after
tea caravan nicked !
Yep this happened at Sandy Balls in the New Forest,couple went out for a walk come back and van was gone.
I have had 2 caravans stolen, they wont get the third we have 2 anti ram posts fitted and a phantom proactive tracker fitted, and it does work the dealer set it off whilst it was being serviced !!
I have just visited the METIS web site and although a step in the right direction is not my cup of tea in the event a caravan gets stolen. METIS seem to indicate that it is up to you to notify the police where the caravan is being towed which means you have to constantly update the police if the caravan is mobile. In addition, I don't fancy the idea of SMS as on many occasions I have received a text sometime after it has been sent beause I was "out of range".
Although I do not like the Phantom system due to the annual fee that is preferable as it notifies the polcie without you being involved. Tracker would be my preferred choice as you can pay a one off fee for life instead of annual subs.
Although I do not like the Phantom system due to the annual fee that is preferable as it notifies the polcie without you being involved. Tracker would be my preferred choice as you can pay a one off fee for life instead of annual subs.
The Phantom tracker subscription is either yearly or you can pay a 5 year lump sum which is cheaper.
Never heard of Metis.
Our Wyoming came with standard fit "Tracker" system which we renew each year. It apparently works on a different basis to the Swift Phantom Tracker. I can't remember which is which but I think the one that uses GPS could fail if the stolen caravan is placed in a steel container.
Did I want it? No.
But it has saved me a fortune on insurance premiums.
If my caravan was stolen would I want it back? No. According to the stories from my dealer you really don't want a stolen trashed caravan back. I'll spare you the filthy details he told me. No pride amongst thieves it seems.
Cheers
Alan
Our Wyoming came with standard fit "Tracker" system which we renew each year. It apparently works on a different basis to the Swift Phantom Tracker. I can't remember which is which but I think the one that uses GPS could fail if the stolen caravan is placed in a steel container.
Did I want it? No.
But it has saved me a fortune on insurance premiums.
If my caravan was stolen would I want it back? No. According to the stories from my dealer you really don't want a stolen trashed caravan back. I'll spare you the filthy details he told me. No pride amongst thieves it seems.
Cheers
Alan
The Phantom tracker works on both GPS and GSM.
Proactive is quite good,we have been phoned within 5 mins of the alarm going off.
I had to have it fitted or no-one would insure me.
Proactive is quite good,we have been phoned within 5 mins of the alarm going off.
I had to have it fitted or no-one would insure me.
I sold some caravan related things and the buyer came to collect them. He told me he'd pitched with awning on a site and whilst he and his wife were out, someone stole the van and awning. A few people saw the thieves do it but didn't realised they were actually stealing it.
Unfortunately, the chap was uninsured.
Lisa
Unfortunately, the chap was uninsured.
Lisa
Every one talks about trackers and how usefull they are at locating a stolen van. It has to be said firstly would you want it back after some no mark has crawled all over it. Secondly if stolen from storage it could be some time before the theft is realised. The best thing has to be a secure storage area,alarmed and apporopriate locks and devices on site, and guess what there's no annual subscription for good security, cheapest / safest. Are we talking about locking the barn door after the horse has bolted!
Ian
Ian
Ian
As I understand it the Tracker systems fitted to some Bailey and Swift caravans will notify the service provider and me within minutes of the caravan being moved whilst the alarm is in active mode.
They supposedly track the movement, alert the police and before you know it your treasured possession is back in its safe storage.
Well that's what Tracker tell me.
Cheers
Dustydog
As I understand it the Tracker systems fitted to some Bailey and Swift caravans will notify the service provider and me within minutes of the caravan being moved whilst the alarm is in active mode.
They supposedly track the movement, alert the police and before you know it your treasured possession is back in its safe storage.
Well that's what Tracker tell me.
Cheers
Dustydog
One of the cheapest ways of checking on your caravan's whereabouts is to locate an old mobile phone in it connected to the 12 volt supply. You can then buy points from a website like www.followus.co.uk
I check mine every morning to see if it is still in storage. If it has moved it will tell you where it is.
I check mine every morning to see if it is still in storage. If it has moved it will tell you where it is.
dusty dog and john
Too late its already gone. What damage will you pay for once returned, you know broken door locks etc. Increase in insurance premium and left with the worry your current storage facility isn't good enough. Where are you going to put it now.
The better the physical security the more time and effort needed to steal it, couple that with a good alarm keeps the horse in the stable.
Too late its already gone. What damage will you pay for once returned, you know broken door locks etc. Increase in insurance premium and left with the worry your current storage facility isn't good enough. Where are you going to put it now.
The better the physical security the more time and effort needed to steal it, couple that with a good alarm keeps the horse in the stable.
Ian
I share your thoughts and indeed my storage compound is as secure as they come; electronic key entry ,cctv etc.
Personally as I said earlier, I would not want my caravan back if it was stolen. The Tracker device enables me to get insurance at a reasonable rate and that for me is the best benefit.
Cheers
Dustydog
I share your thoughts and indeed my storage compound is as secure as they come; electronic key entry ,cctv etc.
Personally as I said earlier, I would not want my caravan back if it was stolen. The Tracker device enables me to get insurance at a reasonable rate and that for me is the best benefit.
Cheers
Dustydog
Dustydog,
Point taken. What I did find with insurance is that eventually you will reach a threshhold in the cost with all companies. It won't matter wether you have a hitch lock or tracker there comes a point where the company won't reduce the premium despite your measures its all a gamble i suppose. I think whatever measure you have in place if you believe there is a likelyhood of your pride and joy being stolen make sure your insured by a company that will deal with your lost swiftly and professionally with minimal cost implication to you.
Point taken. What I did find with insurance is that eventually you will reach a threshhold in the cost with all companies. It won't matter wether you have a hitch lock or tracker there comes a point where the company won't reduce the premium despite your measures its all a gamble i suppose. I think whatever measure you have in place if you believe there is a likelyhood of your pride and joy being stolen make sure your insured by a company that will deal with your lost swiftly and professionally with minimal cost implication to you.
Im sure people are not replying on just tracker alone.
How good are the phyical items anyway?
They can get locks and chains off in seconds,they lever hitch locks off with ease both rob stop and alko,have a look on youtube and type in sold secure,this hows how good chains are?
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(Damian. Moderator)
How good are the phyical items anyway?
They can get locks and chains off in seconds,they lever hitch locks off with ease both rob stop and alko,have a look on youtube and type in sold secure,this hows how good chains are?
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(Damian. Moderator)
Damian
Moderator
It does not matter how much you pay or how many devices you have, they are only as good as the determination of the thieves who want your van.
Back on to trackers, would I want my van back, after it had been stolen and probably trashed,no way, thank you very much.
Back on to trackers, would I want my van back, after it had been stolen and probably trashed,no way, thank you very much.
Damian
We all have access to youtube. Is that what you've deleted?
Ian,
As far as i know most caravans are stolen from people's driveways rather than secure storage. I'm not sure about the rate of thefts from sites.
I've always insured with CC , not because they are cheapest but they offer good cover and appear to have a very good claim service.
If my caravan gets nicked and I have complied with all the Insurers warranties and special policy conditions I may feel hard done by if they then increase my premium just because I claim.
Maybe we need a new Insurance topic on Insurers claim performance. LOL. Mr Mods will strike it out because there is one Insurer who has threatened Hezza with litigation if we mention them. Grrrrr
Cheers
Dustydog
We all have access to youtube. Is that what you've deleted?
Ian,
As far as i know most caravans are stolen from people's driveways rather than secure storage. I'm not sure about the rate of thefts from sites.
I've always insured with CC , not because they are cheapest but they offer good cover and appear to have a very good claim service.
If my caravan gets nicked and I have complied with all the Insurers warranties and special policy conditions I may feel hard done by if they then increase my premium just because I claim.
Maybe we need a new Insurance topic on Insurers claim performance. LOL. Mr Mods will strike it out because there is one Insurer who has threatened Hezza with litigation if we mention them. Grrrrr
Cheers
Dustydog
Is still not the case, that if a van is recovered due to the fact it was fitted with a tracker device, there is no question about wheather or not you want it back, its yours and its been recovered! I remember some years ago that although the police had found a stolen van, through a tracker, they did not actually recover it as it was on an itinerants site & said it was down to the owner to go & get it. The insurance company were not interested as its whereabouts were known & it was left to the owner to recover it!!!!
Food for thought, people have had their caravans stolen, actually seen them going down the opposite way on the Mway, and still police did nothing.
Expensive cars are stolen regular with trackers fitted, and yet still disappear!
So really, will the police investigate and get your van back,and professional thieves at least will know away around a tracker a block the signal.
So really you are relying on police pro active help, and second rate thieves if you believe a tracker to be of real use.
Expensive cars are stolen regular with trackers fitted, and yet still disappear!
So really, will the police investigate and get your van back,and professional thieves at least will know away around a tracker a block the signal.
So really you are relying on police pro active help, and second rate thieves if you believe a tracker to be of real use.
Unfortunately we as a nation have allowed ourselves to sleepwalk into a society where the criminal has all the rights.
We are no longer allowed to protect ourselves even when intruders are actually on our own property. The Plods are far too busy these days filling out Forms for their diversity programmes, or counting the number of speeding tickets they have issued. Trying to actually solve crime is just too much bother, and of course they also know that even when they do catch and prosecute, the Courts will always give a slap on the wrist, and even when a custodial sentence is actually given, the Home Secretary or judicial body will then ensure early release for reasons of overcrowding. So, is there any wonder that crime is probably just about equal to the economy for being the issue of most importance to people. No political Party seems to have the desire to address the issue in the way that the general public would accept, but i
of course as we have also ceded so much authority to the EU they probably cannot do very much anyway.
So, what is the answer? We have to start back at the beginning.Get our authority back from Brussels (whatever that takes. I can guarantee the EU will accept anything to keep our very large contributions), kick out Cherie Blair's ridiculous Yuman Rights Laws (plus every trace of this awful Government), ensure we have a Plod Force that is able to protect the public and a legal system that applies the correct punishments to offenders. Ensure the victims have all the rights. Will it ever happen? Without offering any personal support, it will probably take a rise in influence of Parties such as the BNP to scare the living daylights out of the general Parties and make them adopt the Policies everybody wants.
Then, and only then will caravan theft become a very rare event
We are no longer allowed to protect ourselves even when intruders are actually on our own property. The Plods are far too busy these days filling out Forms for their diversity programmes, or counting the number of speeding tickets they have issued. Trying to actually solve crime is just too much bother, and of course they also know that even when they do catch and prosecute, the Courts will always give a slap on the wrist, and even when a custodial sentence is actually given, the Home Secretary or judicial body will then ensure early release for reasons of overcrowding. So, is there any wonder that crime is probably just about equal to the economy for being the issue of most importance to people. No political Party seems to have the desire to address the issue in the way that the general public would accept, but i
of course as we have also ceded so much authority to the EU they probably cannot do very much anyway.
So, what is the answer? We have to start back at the beginning.Get our authority back from Brussels (whatever that takes. I can guarantee the EU will accept anything to keep our very large contributions), kick out Cherie Blair's ridiculous Yuman Rights Laws (plus every trace of this awful Government), ensure we have a Plod Force that is able to protect the public and a legal system that applies the correct punishments to offenders. Ensure the victims have all the rights. Will it ever happen? Without offering any personal support, it will probably take a rise in influence of Parties such as the BNP to scare the living daylights out of the general Parties and make them adopt the Policies everybody wants.
Then, and only then will caravan theft become a very rare event
Scotch Lad
I liked everything upto the BNP bit. God help us all if they ever got anywhere near Westminster.
What on earth would happen to our Football Clubs??? LOL
Cheers
Dustydog
I liked everything upto the BNP bit. God help us all if they ever got anywhere near Westminster.
What on earth would happen to our Football Clubs??? LOL
Cheers
Dustydog
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