Taxing your tow car

[starlightdj]

By law I have to have a large tow car to pull our twin axle van so I have to take on the chin the extra I pay for road tax.

Received my reminder two weeks ago and it stated £402 for the year.

Paid on line and its gone up since the reminder was printed. Its now £425 per year

Add this to fuel duty and the extra increase in site fees wich although understandable, It makes caravanning a very expensive pass time!

Buy British, Stay and holiday in Britain, Put my money into the British economy and get Taxed a premium.

Rant over.

Cheers

John

 

[Philspadders]

just wait till they tax your caravan. It will be taxed on how many axles, itsa length and weight.

 

[RegandPat]

Are they going to make us pay tax on the van and car ?

 

[Philspadders]

why not,we use the roads. That may even lead to a caravan MOT.

 

[whitetop]

Only thing that is certain is...Death and Tax.....

Caravan tax....political suicide....

 

[Philspadders]

i though caravans had to have some sort of road gtax in germany and other eu states.

 

[sarahandher6dachshunds.]

is that all you have to pay, try 345 euros for 3 months or 1200 per a year in republic of Ireland and now a carbon tax now as well.bet you lot don't feel so bad now.also 1.23 a litre petrol 1.33 TAX TAX TAX AND MORE TAX

 

[Philspadders]

o bet you wish you had never joined the euro .....what with greece and portugal and spain on the horizon. Any in the Eurozone will be paying increased taxes to cover the cost of bailing out greece.

 

[sarahandher6dachshunds.]

o bet you wish you had never joined the euro .....what with greece and portugal and spain on the horizon. Any in the Eurozone will be paying increased taxes to cover the cost of bailing out greece.

i did not join the eu, i'n not irish,i'm british, and the eu stinks from where i'm standing,i want to come home but an eu law is stopping us,we need paid work 2 weeks or else no benefit,so for now i'm stuck,and hubby isn't signed back to work due to a big accident,has a job but is on the sick for life probably so it's a case of retraining.

 

[Steve L]

For ages now I have banged on about a form of proportional representation being applied to road tax that would see those of us who drive small cars, large cars, company cars doing thousands of miles a week, trucks and even the humble funky moped, all paying the proportionate share of the useage of our roads.

It's called putting road tax onto fuel. Ok, Ok, it might not be the most popular idea to give the chancellor (who ever he/she might end up being) an open hand to slap more tax on our already way over taxed comodity,but just think about it for a mo.

If all those un-taxed vehicle that have to buy their fuel via the same fuel pump as us some times! So therefore there would actually be more revenue coming in. I once did a rough calculation and I reckon that only 0.1p per litre would pay for my road tax per mile twice over. Far be it for me to advocate another stealth tax, but if the government outlawed the 0.9p pricing we see every day at the petrol stations, the 0.1p would be found without pain because the fuel companies would not give away 0.9p to comply, they would simply round up instead.

Like everyone who owns a caravan, I have to have a suitably large tow car all be it only in the

 

[Philspadders]

this of course assumes we all have a daughter with megane that we can borrow thereby reducing our overall tax bill due to its improved economy.

Many house holds with caravans do only have one vehiclwe, so a lot of us could be heavily penalised by this while others may actually benefit. Those households that can afford to go an buy a little prius for instance.

 

[Steve L]

Phil you are right that most households do only have one car. I personally only have one car but can borrow my daughters meganne as and when she visits us. Being a uni student, I got her a car that was affordable to buy, maintain and drive.

However you did miss the vital point.

We all moan and groan on here about petrol and road tax etc, but at no time has anyone decided to join forces and form a group to campain about this emotive issue.

Have we all lost our bottle or am I on my own in wishing to make a stand.

Atb Last van standing!!!!!!????????

 

[MikeJE]

To follow up Steve in Leo's idea of adding road tax to the cost of fuel at the pump add a further penny or so to provide basic third party insurance. That way if you are moving on U.K. roads, wether in a U.K. registered vehicle or a foreign vehicle not usually paying tax here, you are taxed AND at least partly insured. (The Swiss have the vignette system to at least cover motorway usage.) The saving on administration costs issueing tax discs and no longer needing roadside checks would be something.

 

[Lutz]

That would put an end to no-claims discount on third party insurance. Are you sure that would be such a desirable thing? Besides, there wouldn't be any competition between insurance companies on third party premiums so there wouldn't be any incentive for cheaper rates, which would probably drive the cost of insurance up in the long run.

 

[MikeJE]

Yes, Lutz, but what is the loading put onto premiums for those who do insure themselves to cover monies paid out by insurance companies to those who are victims of the uninsured? Sums of

 

[Lutz]

I don't quite see why driving without insurance should go any more unnoticed than driving a stolen car. It is relatively simple for the police to establish whether a vehicle is insured or not, even without stopping it. A link between the DVLA, Swansea and a common insurance company database is all that is needed.

 

[Grahamsprite4]

steve in leo

if you are wishing to start a group and make a stand im def willing to join and discuss putting our point across

Graham

 

[Guest]

John.

OK Only minor points I know, and it might sound pedantic too, but road tax went up from

 

[MikeJE]

I don't quite see why driving without insurance should go any more unnoticed than driving a stolen car. It is relatively simple for the police to establish whether a vehicle is insured or not, even without stopping it. A link between the DVLA, Swansea and a common insurance company database is all that is needed.

Why then do so many get away with driving untaxed and uninsured? Perhaps because the fines for doing so are less than the cost of taxing and insuring. For sure I often see mobile roadside checks taking place using number plate recognition equipment. I have yet to see any evidence of offenders being stopped further along the road.

 

[drsorento]

Lutz the police do have a link with the insurance companies database, an uninsured car can be picked up via the A.N.P.R system.

 

[trucker]

me, not a clerical error just them not being assed to change thwe letters mine was exactly the same renewal notice 1 figure online price different due to increase.

Kevin

 

[Steve L]

Hi Graham.

That makes two of us, now what about the other 99'998 other caravanners who just put up with being treated like dummies?

I'm not as a rule a moany old git, but on this emotive subject of fuel and vehicle taxation I do get very wound up!

If we were in France for instance, there would of been port blockades, government buildings sprayed with farm slurry and general disruption etc. And that would of been over just the slightest thing.

Here in Britain (lost the "great" years ago), we just whine a little when no one of importance can hear us and accept all the s*** thrown at us by government. At every budget we can hear people saying "up goes petrol, beer and fags again", it accepted as a natural occurance.

I couldn't care less about fags myself and if I had my way they would be

 

[SteveW77]

If we were in France for instance, there would of been port blockades, government buildings sprayed with farm slurry and general disruption etc. And that would of been over just the slightest thing.

That being the case, why are their fuel prices almost as high as ours? Presumably their govenment takes as much tax os ours, or the petrol companies are making an even bigger profit over there.

Steve W

 

[starlightdj]

Hi Me

in relation to your comment I am only stating facts, My renewal states