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Are you trying to get me up on my soapbox Geist???
Oh by the way, some are already here but wait until the Romanian gypos arrive in vast hordes to swell the numbers of the Emerald Isle tinkers. At the moment they are in the south east training kids to pick pockets but theres more on the way. It's like a spreading cancer on our land.
Oh by the way, some are already here but wait until the Romanian gypos arrive in vast hordes to swell the numbers of the Emerald Isle tinkers. At the moment they are in the south east training kids to pick pockets but theres more on the way. It's like a spreading cancer on our land.
I worked in the metals industry for a number of years SMELLING isn't far out for the processBefore they drive us out of our hobby on "green issues" has anyone done the sums on the big growth recreation, Cruising?
To start its smelling enough ore for up to 100,000 tonnes of steel as well as making enough energy to electrically melt much of it again to weld it up. Then its fuel it up to sail thousands of miles then fly them all home again.
You need not have the slightest prick of conscience about your van and even the unmentionable ?X?, your not in the same league as those who go cruising. But who gets taxed and pilloried in the media?
I'm only too aware of the problem I'm sad to say .
http://www.londoncolney.com/PC_campaigns.php
This combined with news today of the posibility of 900 new houses being built locally ,next to the 300 odd that have just been built and the planned freight terminal (same link) and it's looking like time to move on.
Also Bina drives in the new LEZ everyday to work ,ok now but how long before her big bad 4x4 is targeted ?
Had the house valued a few weeks ago ,maybe time to cash in.
Brian
http://www.londoncolney.com/PC_campaigns.php
This combined with news today of the posibility of 900 new houses being built locally ,next to the 300 odd that have just been built and the planned freight terminal (same link) and it's looking like time to move on.
Also Bina drives in the new LEZ everyday to work ,ok now but how long before her big bad 4x4 is targeted ?
Had the house valued a few weeks ago ,maybe time to cash in.
Brian
I've given much thought to solving our immigration problem. This isn't the place to go into too much details - suffice it to say that features troops, dogs, sharp bayonets, and specially chartered planes, ferries, and Chunnel trains.Are you trying to get me up on my soapbox Geist???
Oh by the way, some are already here but wait until the Romanian gypos arrive in vast hordes to swell the numbers of the Emerald Isle tinkers. At the moment they are in the south east training kids to pick pockets but theres more on the way. It's like a spreading cancer on our land.
Eight weeks to reclaim the nation.........
He is not the only one, when will these green guys get off there hoby horses and leave us alone.
Air travel does more harm to the ozone than a 4x4 di or a 4x4 on lpg any day.
we put more mony into this country by hols in uk, than the flying off guys.
We suport local shops pubs and other buisnesses, when we go caravaning.
And why did our fathers go to war, to keep this a free country, jest for us to hand it over to some green nazi
Air travel does more harm to the ozone than a 4x4 di or a 4x4 on lpg any day.
we put more mony into this country by hols in uk, than the flying off guys.
We suport local shops pubs and other buisnesses, when we go caravaning.
And why did our fathers go to war, to keep this a free country, jest for us to hand it over to some green nazi
hi all
I came across this thread while scanning the forums and see that nowt changes as we say, a couple of months away and two current threads ongoing kids playing ball games on site and this one the old price of petrol v enviroment nut shell.
being a bit of a greenie my self (no secret there O,) one does feel a little like the boy with his finger in the **** (no sexual connotations please L.B.) when comments like the ones above abound uncontested.
enviroment damage and climet change are a fact and burying ones head in the sand will not make it better or go away,I guess the only way poluters will sit up and take notice is when it actually affects them (usa.china.india ) in particlar are the worst offenders but we all will suffer in the long run.
perhaps when peking or washington DC is a island and most of all the worlds coastal cities are under water they will take notice but then it will be too late.
small changes to the worlds climate have a huge impact on all of gods creatures not just man. more species have gone exstinct in the last ten years than at any time since the dynosaures died out and none of them can be replaced.
the ice caps are melting due to an increase in temprature, raising sea levels, warmer air in the polar regions are changing the weather fronts and diverting the worlds winds and stormes.
we got a taste of it last summer when the gulf stream changed direction and went along the south coast instead of up the west coast, result heavy rain fall and flooding (to some places that have not flooded before)and only got better when the gulf stream returned to it normal course.
the ecology of the planet is in a fine balance 85% of all the co2 we make is disipated by the worlds forests and absorbed by the oceans however the oceans are increasing in ph with acid rain and an area of forest the size of scotland is lost every year by de-forestation how long before the damage is so great it cannot be reversed.
enviromentalists are not numpties that belong in a nut house but people who care about the future not for themselves but for the generations to come and for those not yet born. we who live now are only the custodians of the world not the owners of it, because its what we leave behind that matters, not the price of petrol, if you dont understand that it shows who the numpties realy are.
colin
I came across this thread while scanning the forums and see that nowt changes as we say, a couple of months away and two current threads ongoing kids playing ball games on site and this one the old price of petrol v enviroment nut shell.
being a bit of a greenie my self (no secret there O,) one does feel a little like the boy with his finger in the **** (no sexual connotations please L.B.) when comments like the ones above abound uncontested.
enviroment damage and climet change are a fact and burying ones head in the sand will not make it better or go away,I guess the only way poluters will sit up and take notice is when it actually affects them (usa.china.india ) in particlar are the worst offenders but we all will suffer in the long run.
perhaps when peking or washington DC is a island and most of all the worlds coastal cities are under water they will take notice but then it will be too late.
small changes to the worlds climate have a huge impact on all of gods creatures not just man. more species have gone exstinct in the last ten years than at any time since the dynosaures died out and none of them can be replaced.
the ice caps are melting due to an increase in temprature, raising sea levels, warmer air in the polar regions are changing the weather fronts and diverting the worlds winds and stormes.
we got a taste of it last summer when the gulf stream changed direction and went along the south coast instead of up the west coast, result heavy rain fall and flooding (to some places that have not flooded before)and only got better when the gulf stream returned to it normal course.
the ecology of the planet is in a fine balance 85% of all the co2 we make is disipated by the worlds forests and absorbed by the oceans however the oceans are increasing in ph with acid rain and an area of forest the size of scotland is lost every year by de-forestation how long before the damage is so great it cannot be reversed.
enviromentalists are not numpties that belong in a nut house but people who care about the future not for themselves but for the generations to come and for those not yet born. we who live now are only the custodians of the world not the owners of it, because its what we leave behind that matters, not the price of petrol, if you dont understand that it shows who the numpties realy are.
colin
Quote ... "one does feel a little like the boy with his finger in the **** (no sexual connotations please L.B.)"hi all
I came across this thread while scanning the forums and see that nowt changes as we say, a couple of months away and two current threads ongoing kids playing ball games on site and this one the old price of petrol v enviroment nut shell.
being a bit of a greenie my self (no secret there O,) one does feel a little like the boy with his finger in the **** (no sexual connotations please L.B.) when comments like the ones above abound uncontested.
enviroment damage and climet change are a fact and burying ones head in the sand will not make it better or go away,I guess the only way poluters will sit up and take notice is when it actually affects them (usa.china.india ) in particlar are the worst offenders but we all will suffer in the long run.
perhaps when peking or washington DC is a island and most of all the worlds coastal cities are under water they will take notice but then it will be too late.
small changes to the worlds climate have a huge impact on all of gods creatures not just man. more species have gone exstinct in the last ten years than at any time since the dynosaures died out and none of them can be replaced.
the ice caps are melting due to an increase in temprature, raising sea levels, warmer air in the polar regions are changing the weather fronts and diverting the worlds winds and stormes.
we got a taste of it last summer when the gulf stream changed direction and went along the south coast instead of up the west coast, result heavy rain fall and flooding (to some places that have not flooded before)and only got better when the gulf stream returned to it normal course.
the ecology of the planet is in a fine balance 85% of all the co2 we make is disipated by the worlds forests and absorbed by the oceans however the oceans are increasing in ph with acid rain and an area of forest the size of scotland is lost every year by de-forestation how long before the damage is so great it cannot be reversed.
enviromentalists are not numpties that belong in a nut house but people who care about the future not for themselves but for the generations to come and for those not yet born. we who live now are only the custodians of the world not the owners of it, because its what we leave behind that matters, not the price of petrol, if you dont understand that it shows who the numpties realy are.
colin
As if I would :O(
Anybody who thinks paying more money in environmental type taxes to Gordon Brown or Ken Livingstone is going to save the planet is away with the fairies.
Just had a gorgeous week here in Dorset. if this is global warming then it aint all bad.Anybody who thinks paying more money in environmental type taxes to Gordon Brown or Ken Livingstone is going to save the planet is away with the fairies.
To a certain extent I agree with the Yorkshire Tyke. I'm not a tree hugger, the derogatory term used to belittle anyone who believes that something is happening to the planet, but I do recycle so that makes me one I suppose. I also know that the winters in the last 25 years have grown noticeably milder. Only last week I was outside gardening in the sun and could actually feel it's warmth, something I've never been able to do in February before. Botanists only this week throughout the country have recorded over 26000 species in bloom breaking all records.
People, for whatever reasons only beknown to them, who say theres nothing wrong and this is a normal, natural happening thats gone on throughout time ignore the scientists at their peril. Nobody is denying the fact that the earths cycles do happen but the changes from one extreme to the other takes place over millions of years, not 25 years.
Ray (C) says it can't all be bad and again I agree, I hate the cold weather but long term we are going to pay for it and have already started to do so. Not by plagues of rats, that continue to breed through the winters and have a readyful supply of food now bins aren't collected as regularly as they once were, but by plagues of African immigrants.
Quite simply Africa is starving and it's getting worse. Do they stay and starve or do they act like their nomadic ancestors and go where they can find food? Yes, the latter and they are coming in armada's of boats. These aren't asylum seekers, they are economic migrants and our government love them. Train them up to do your jobs for half the cost. Keeps inflation down and the indigenous population in check regarding salaries.
If they were asylum seekers they should seek asylum in the country they land in which is France, Spain or Italy but those countries don't want them so don't give them a cent in handouts. I don't need to ramble on here about what this corrupt government doles out to them, that's why we are their country of choice.
We have been taking in Bangladeshi's for years because of their problems with flooding, the reverse of whats happening in Africa. Trees, yes trees, the lungs of the earth have been felled remorsely in the foothills of the Himalayas until theres none left. The trees also acted as giant sponges by soaking up the monsoon rains and binding the delicate soil together. Now theres nothing to stop that and the monsoons just wash the soil into the rivers until they reach the deltas and block them up. Nowhere for the rains to go now except to flood the land causing untold damage and deaths. It's not much different to having furred up arteries in your heart and suffering Angina, eventually you will have that fatal M.I. without your GTN but we don't have any medication like GTN for the river systems to dilate their arteries.
One would think the world would learn from it's mistakes but the same thing is happening in the East Indies and the Amazon from logging. They will be the next Bangladesh. After they have felled the trees they try to grow crops but the topsoil is so thin it will grow nothing after the first year. Eventually the soil will wash away into the Amazon basin and clog up the whole region destoying the eco system and many animals and plants, some still unknown, will be lost forever, extinct.
Another point on reflection, I don't wish to cover these small islands in concrete and bricks to house people who have no right to be here, I love the trees and open spaces and our varied landscape so yes, I suppose I am a tree hugger and so are all of those who decry those who say theres something going wrong to justify their lifestyles because without these trees, open spaces and our varied landscape you can stick your caravans right up your asses for what use they would be :O) I suppose if they become of no use because theres nowhere to caravan the government of the time can always commandeer them to house even more immigrants.
O.K. I've rambled on long enough but believe me, theres much more I can say but please, those who say nothings happening just to justify the way you live get your heads from out of your ass and take a good hard look at whats happening and come from out of denial.
I've used all my monitor ink up on that rant :O)
People, for whatever reasons only beknown to them, who say theres nothing wrong and this is a normal, natural happening thats gone on throughout time ignore the scientists at their peril. Nobody is denying the fact that the earths cycles do happen but the changes from one extreme to the other takes place over millions of years, not 25 years.
Ray (C) says it can't all be bad and again I agree, I hate the cold weather but long term we are going to pay for it and have already started to do so. Not by plagues of rats, that continue to breed through the winters and have a readyful supply of food now bins aren't collected as regularly as they once were, but by plagues of African immigrants.
Quite simply Africa is starving and it's getting worse. Do they stay and starve or do they act like their nomadic ancestors and go where they can find food? Yes, the latter and they are coming in armada's of boats. These aren't asylum seekers, they are economic migrants and our government love them. Train them up to do your jobs for half the cost. Keeps inflation down and the indigenous population in check regarding salaries.
If they were asylum seekers they should seek asylum in the country they land in which is France, Spain or Italy but those countries don't want them so don't give them a cent in handouts. I don't need to ramble on here about what this corrupt government doles out to them, that's why we are their country of choice.
We have been taking in Bangladeshi's for years because of their problems with flooding, the reverse of whats happening in Africa. Trees, yes trees, the lungs of the earth have been felled remorsely in the foothills of the Himalayas until theres none left. The trees also acted as giant sponges by soaking up the monsoon rains and binding the delicate soil together. Now theres nothing to stop that and the monsoons just wash the soil into the rivers until they reach the deltas and block them up. Nowhere for the rains to go now except to flood the land causing untold damage and deaths. It's not much different to having furred up arteries in your heart and suffering Angina, eventually you will have that fatal M.I. without your GTN but we don't have any medication like GTN for the river systems to dilate their arteries.
One would think the world would learn from it's mistakes but the same thing is happening in the East Indies and the Amazon from logging. They will be the next Bangladesh. After they have felled the trees they try to grow crops but the topsoil is so thin it will grow nothing after the first year. Eventually the soil will wash away into the Amazon basin and clog up the whole region destoying the eco system and many animals and plants, some still unknown, will be lost forever, extinct.
Another point on reflection, I don't wish to cover these small islands in concrete and bricks to house people who have no right to be here, I love the trees and open spaces and our varied landscape so yes, I suppose I am a tree hugger and so are all of those who decry those who say theres something going wrong to justify their lifestyles because without these trees, open spaces and our varied landscape you can stick your caravans right up your asses for what use they would be :O) I suppose if they become of no use because theres nowhere to caravan the government of the time can always commandeer them to house even more immigrants.
O.K. I've rambled on long enough but believe me, theres much more I can say but please, those who say nothings happening just to justify the way you live get your heads from out of your ass and take a good hard look at whats happening and come from out of denial.
I've used all my monitor ink up on that rant :O)
Gosh LB how many maids typed that out for you, sounds like you have got your new computer up and running , no more quill pens then.
Gosh LB how many maids typed that out for you, sounds like you have got your new computer up and running , no more quill pens then.
well where did that blip come from !!!Gosh LB how many maids typed that out for you, sounds like you have got your new computer up and running , no more quill pens then.
hi all
well LB theres nothing there that anyone with an ounce of common sense could disagree with the garden is full of too early flowers serviced by bees, in february?????, we also had ants in the consevatory at chritmas this year that was unheard of just a
few years ago.
when you look at the bigger picture one can see what is happening, humans by nature are selfish creatures and go to where life is better and more comfortable hence our immigration problems, totally agree the trouble is none of our so called leaders have the b***s to to anything about it labour or tory yes they will argue about small issues that score a few points but on major policies like immigration no differance.
this is nothing new its been going on for decades from tinkers from ireland and evacuees from tristan dacuna and uganda to the new influx from eastern europe.the same failed policies un changed until all immigrants are stopped at the ports and returned to there departing fellow european countries we will continue to be inundated with migrants this is not an illegal stand point I think within the eu as this is what other countries have been doing for years, want proof try going to the border of spain. italy.ect and say I am here to work and live in your country I have no money and I do not speak your language see if they let you in,??? no chance.
I could rant on for a few more hours but I have to go to work so I will leave it there.
colin
well LB theres nothing there that anyone with an ounce of common sense could disagree with the garden is full of too early flowers serviced by bees, in february?????, we also had ants in the consevatory at chritmas this year that was unheard of just a
few years ago.
when you look at the bigger picture one can see what is happening, humans by nature are selfish creatures and go to where life is better and more comfortable hence our immigration problems, totally agree the trouble is none of our so called leaders have the b***s to to anything about it labour or tory yes they will argue about small issues that score a few points but on major policies like immigration no differance.
this is nothing new its been going on for decades from tinkers from ireland and evacuees from tristan dacuna and uganda to the new influx from eastern europe.the same failed policies un changed until all immigrants are stopped at the ports and returned to there departing fellow european countries we will continue to be inundated with migrants this is not an illegal stand point I think within the eu as this is what other countries have been doing for years, want proof try going to the border of spain. italy.ect and say I am here to work and live in your country I have no money and I do not speak your language see if they let you in,??? no chance.
I could rant on for a few more hours but I have to go to work so I will leave it there.
colin
We will continue to drive our great big 10 year old dirty smelly 4 x 4 while towing our great big twin axle caravan as that is what we enjoy doing. If the environment was such a big issue why isn't the government doing more to promote alternative travel? They don't, because they would lose billions in taxes and not be able to give away more billions to poor third world countries. Is the Prius such an environmentla friendly car. I think not as its parts are made all over the world to be shipped to a central assembly location. What do they do to recycle the batteries after the car has expired.
Bring on global warming we are looking forward to it. It has happened before and will happen again. Previously I guess it was all the indigenous with their coal fires etc that brought on the Ice age.
Bring on global warming we are looking forward to it. It has happened before and will happen again. Previously I guess it was all the indigenous with their coal fires etc that brought on the Ice age.
I found a caterpillar climbing up the wall by our kitchen door this morning.hi all
well LB theres nothing there that anyone with an ounce of common sense could disagree with the garden is full of too early flowers serviced by bees, in february?????, we also had ants in the consevatory at chritmas this year that was unheard of just a
few years ago.
when you look at the bigger picture one can see what is happening, humans by nature are selfish creatures and go to where life is better and more comfortable hence our immigration problems, totally agree the trouble is none of our so called leaders have the b***s to to anything about it labour or tory yes they will argue about small issues that score a few points but on major policies like immigration no differance.
this is nothing new its been going on for decades from tinkers from ireland and evacuees from tristan dacuna and uganda to the new influx from eastern europe.the same failed policies un changed until all immigrants are stopped at the ports and returned to there departing fellow european countries we will continue to be inundated with migrants this is not an illegal stand point I think within the eu as this is what other countries have been doing for years, want proof try going to the border of spain. italy.ect and say I am here to work and live in your country I have no money and I do not speak your language see if they let you in,??? no chance.
I could rant on for a few more hours but I have to go to work so I will leave it there.
colin
Pardon? I can't hear you :O)GLOBAKL WARMING IS A TOTAL MYTH FABRICATED BY GOVERNMENTS SO THEY CAN TAX US EVEN MORE!
Ian I personally don't give a monkey's if you do carry on driving your "great big 4x4" towing your "great big twin axle".
Who do you think it's affecting? Not me so why should I give a damn, the only time I care what you drive or tow is when you expect me to pay for your ""great big 4x4" or "great big twin axle".
By the time global warming has had an affect I will be well dead and gone but that doesn't stop me caring or showing compassion for what I'm leaving behind for my grandchildrens children.
Forget about the politics and the government making more money, we all know that but that doesn't detract from the fact it is happening. If you watch more factual programmes instead of soaps, and I say this because you obviously don't watch them, then you will know it is happening. All what I said in my above post is the truth. People like yourself are in denial, no different from some Germans and muslims denying the holocaust.
I agree, you stopping driving your "great big 4x4" will have no affect on stopping it but by you ranting and raving like your above post stifles debate.
I could go on about local councils and their recycling policies whereby there is stuff with the recycle mark but they don't recycle it! Then they are talking about people having to pay for what they don't recycle by weighing their rubbish.
We have governments who aren't interested in legislating that ALL food packaging should be in recyclable containers. It's a vicious circle and nobody is doing **** all about it apart from whinge,cry foul and expend a lot of hot air from their gobs which add to global warming.
If you open your eyes any sensible person with half a brain cell can see something is wrong with the planet.
Who do you think it's affecting? Not me so why should I give a damn, the only time I care what you drive or tow is when you expect me to pay for your ""great big 4x4" or "great big twin axle".
By the time global warming has had an affect I will be well dead and gone but that doesn't stop me caring or showing compassion for what I'm leaving behind for my grandchildrens children.
Forget about the politics and the government making more money, we all know that but that doesn't detract from the fact it is happening. If you watch more factual programmes instead of soaps, and I say this because you obviously don't watch them, then you will know it is happening. All what I said in my above post is the truth. People like yourself are in denial, no different from some Germans and muslims denying the holocaust.
I agree, you stopping driving your "great big 4x4" will have no affect on stopping it but by you ranting and raving like your above post stifles debate.
I could go on about local councils and their recycling policies whereby there is stuff with the recycle mark but they don't recycle it! Then they are talking about people having to pay for what they don't recycle by weighing their rubbish.
We have governments who aren't interested in legislating that ALL food packaging should be in recyclable containers. It's a vicious circle and nobody is doing **** all about it apart from whinge,cry foul and expend a lot of hot air from their gobs which add to global warming.
If you open your eyes any sensible person with half a brain cell can see something is wrong with the planet.
The earth goes through natural cycles every couple of centuries and this has been going on for longer than there have been sceintists and governments around. our current floods etc can probbely be attributed to the El nino cycle which ocurs in the Pacific region every 7 years with 2007 being part of thast period. The last bas floods were in 2000 and before that I know of 1993/4. There may some sort of issue but it is unlikely to be caused by carbon emmisions fromn cars but perhaps factories etc. Personally i think that over 60% of the population now ignore the possiblity of environmental damage by cars aqs they are beginning to realsie it is a big con by the government. If the govt were so keen on reducing carbon emmisons and using substaiable sources why did it take them so long to lift duty on vehicles using veg oil etc?
I may have come across a bit strong because I get so annoyed with self righteous tree huggers and environmentalist telling me what i should do when we are probably more environmentla friendly than what they are as we live in our caravan , use about 60 litres of water a day, very little electric and even less gas than they do. We also recycle all our old tins, glass, paper etc. The 4 x 4 is regularly sericed to keep emmisions down and using veg oil is being investigated at present. That is my little bit towards the environment but not so called global warming.
I may have come across a bit strong because I get so annoyed with self righteous tree huggers and environmentalist telling me what i should do when we are probably more environmentla friendly than what they are as we live in our caravan , use about 60 litres of water a day, very little electric and even less gas than they do. We also recycle all our old tins, glass, paper etc. The 4 x 4 is regularly sericed to keep emmisions down and using veg oil is being investigated at present. That is my little bit towards the environment but not so called global warming.
Well, the 'beardies' are certainly coming out of the closet - back in with 'em, quick!
So, there is huge Governmental concern about 'the environment'?, and that's why we're facing huge price rise for fuel?
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the current hysteria about 'the environment' is nothing more than an instrument of control, which is being deliberately used to curtail our freedom?
The Beardie's tell us to 'wake up' - and 'wake up' we should - but to the 'real' dangers that are now so frighteningly close at hand.
Did anyone *really* think, say ten years ago, that people would be taken to court like a common thief and fined - for leaving the dustbin lid open?!
Well, it's happening every week - people turned into criminals for putting the wrong rubbish into the wrong waste bin, for putting too much waste into the bin, for leaving the bin out on the wrong collection day!....it's fascism, the tyranny of the state over the individual - a reign of terror that is being implemented under the 'green agenda'
And it's just the start - I believe that this persecution is being used as a 'dry run' for the real stuff soon to come - when people will be fined and imprisoned, not for putting a plastic bottle in the organic bin, but what they think, what they say, how they vote, what they believe, who they pray to...
It's coming - be absolutely sure about it, and if people will accept fines for overfilling their dustbin, they will be an easy prey for the future police state.
'Enviroment'?....rubbish (but not in the wrong bin!)
So, there is huge Governmental concern about 'the environment'?, and that's why we're facing huge price rise for fuel?
Has it ever occurred to anyone that the current hysteria about 'the environment' is nothing more than an instrument of control, which is being deliberately used to curtail our freedom?
The Beardie's tell us to 'wake up' - and 'wake up' we should - but to the 'real' dangers that are now so frighteningly close at hand.
Did anyone *really* think, say ten years ago, that people would be taken to court like a common thief and fined - for leaving the dustbin lid open?!
Well, it's happening every week - people turned into criminals for putting the wrong rubbish into the wrong waste bin, for putting too much waste into the bin, for leaving the bin out on the wrong collection day!....it's fascism, the tyranny of the state over the individual - a reign of terror that is being implemented under the 'green agenda'
And it's just the start - I believe that this persecution is being used as a 'dry run' for the real stuff soon to come - when people will be fined and imprisoned, not for putting a plastic bottle in the organic bin, but what they think, what they say, how they vote, what they believe, who they pray to...
It's coming - be absolutely sure about it, and if people will accept fines for overfilling their dustbin, they will be an easy prey for the future police state.
'Enviroment'?....rubbish (but not in the wrong bin!)
I can go one better Geist! If I cannot afford to enjoy myself after working all week - I shall give up work, claim I am stressed by the ever increasing tax burden and wait for the benefits to start rolling in. The time where it is not worth working is rapidly approaching
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