The MG4 EV is the Car of The Year in the Parkers New Car Awards 2024

Page 2 - Passionate about caravans & motorhome? Join our community to share that passion with a global audience!
Status
Not open for further replies.
Aug 12, 2023
605
265
1,135
George Turnbull ex BMC and his team aggressively examined and helped Hyundai introduce their Pony in 1982. It was the forerunner of the 24/7 taxi in the UK out of London. Look at Kia and parent Hyundai now.
No question moving to a Japanese motorbike in the late 60s was like going from a DC3 to Concord
There is big difference between Japan and China mindset. Perfection is big part of Japanese culture. China is more about profit. My experience of Chinese products both privately and in business has shown this to be the case. Quite lot of do silly cost cutting measures that ruin product.

Not willing to pay £10ks to find out if their automotive industry is any better.
 
Nov 11, 2009
23,200
7,875
50,935
George Turnbull ex BMC and his team aggressively examined and helped Hyundai introduce their Pony in 1982. It was the forerunner of the 24/7 taxi in the UK out of London. Look at Kia and parent Hyundai now.
No question moving to a Japanese motorbike in the late 60s was like going from a DC3 to Concord
The only problem I found in moving from AJS to Yamaha was that my leather riding boots lost their waterproofing. 🤣
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Hutch and Dustydog
Jul 18, 2017
14,922
4,537
40,935
The only problem I found in moving from AJS to Yamaha was that my leather riding boots lost their waterproofing. 🤣
We moved from 650 BSA or similar motorbikes to the Yamaha 350. When seeing the difference in cc we thought the Yamaha would be slow etc. How wrong we were! They were excellent police bikes and just as rugged as the BSA, Matchless, Triumphs etc that they replaced.
 
Sep 23, 2023
831
304
1,135
George Turnbull ex BMC and his team aggressively examined and helped Hyundai introduce their Pony in 1982. It was the forerunner of the 24/7 taxi in the UK out of London. Look at Kia and parent Hyundai now.
No question moving to a Japanese motorbike in the late 60s was like going from a DC3 to Concord
The early honda (K models)and later on Kawasaki triples handled the road like pogo sticks on ice 😊
 
Nov 11, 2009
23,200
7,875
50,935
If not it could be of been a reason to refuse cover I'd of assumed👌
There’s also the possibility that if your car is rear ended the damage could be more severe if you have a towbar, particularly a fixed towball. On three of my cars the rear structural cross member was removed and the towbar installed in its place. The difference in the two structures was marked. Tye towbar was just basically a simple steel component whereas the OEM cross members were complex designed for strength, lightness and part of the cars structural design.

Our SAAB 9000 was rear ended at 30 mph and externally no sign of damage as it had a strong bumper mounted to move forwards under impact. But the towbar fastenings to the body shell caused the boot floor to ripple. Fortunately not sufficient to warrant repair action or write off. But the fixed ball really made a mess of the car that hit us, carved its front end inwards.
 
Nov 11, 2009
23,200
7,875
50,935
Shouldn't be if factory towbar. If car is rear ended other vehicle will be paying for repairs..
There have been compensation cases going right through the courts where the court has found both parties to be responsible. I E if you brake suddenly without warning and good reason. So slamming on your brakes because you are about to overshoot your turning could find you partly responsible for the accident. Ali v D’Brass.

There was another where a car overtook the vehicle they were following but were unable to overtake the next vehicle. They rapidly shot into a gap. The car they were overtaking braked, but unfortunately the vehicle that wasn’t overtaken also braked and the overtaking car rear ended that one. Plus the car that had been overtaken hit the rear of the overtaking car. But fortunately dash cam footage recorded it all.
 
Jul 18, 2017
14,922
4,537
40,935
Only time I drove a Saab was in the sixties. I do remember it being a very comfortable car.
 
Nov 6, 2005
8,379
2,893
30,935
I lost interest in Saab when GM bought them - when the then New 900, later becoming the 9-3, was introduced it was very obviously a re-skinned Vauxhall Cavalier mk3 - although perversely Saab parts were cheaper than their Vauxhall equivalent.
 
Sep 23, 2023
831
304
1,135
Only time I drove a Saab was in the sixties. I do remember it being a very comfortable car.
I remember them as you do,a solid car used also for rallying very successfully..if I remember were they 2 strokes my dad had a Volvo 145 245 244 all solid vehicle's and excellent for towing caravan..I was glad of there stability when the caravan had a puncher as I was driving south of Birmingham on M6 down hill on a bend..foot off everything and coasted onto the hard shoulder.Gary
 
Jul 18, 2017
14,922
4,537
40,935
I also drove my friend's Volvo P444 quite a bit and also found it very comfortable. Later I bought second hand a Volvo Amazon with high mileage and again a very comfortable car. On moving to the UK we bought a 340 again a very comfortable car, followed by a 440, then two S80's. Most comfortable cars we have have ever had.
 
  • Like
Reactions: toad a caravan
Sep 23, 2023
831
304
1,135
I also drove my friend's Volvo P444 quite a bit and also found it very comfortable. Later I bought second hand a Volvo Amazon with high mileage and again a very comfortable car. On moving to the UK we bought a 340 again a very comfortable car, followed by a 440, then two S80's. Most comfortable cars we have have ever had.
Do you know who and where the Wartburg knight came from? That also was a 2Stroke
 
Mar 14, 2005
18,564
3,851
50,935
I lost interest in Saab when GM bought them - when the then New 900, later becoming the 9-3, was introduced it was very obviously a re-skinned Vauxhall Cavalier mk3 - although perversely Saab parts were cheaper than their Vauxhall equivalent.
Even though the 9-3 was based on the GM platform, Saab re-engineered quite a lot of it to turn it into a unique model, and that was one of the reasons GM pulled the plug, they were unhappy that Saab refused to tow the GM party line. Granted a lot of the running gear was GM parts bin, especially the diesel variants, but body seating and control layouts were definitely Saab creations and better for it.

It was the GM bits that eventually let my X plate 2.2 diesel down.
 
  • Like
Reactions: toad a caravan
Sep 23, 2023
831
304
1,135
Even though the 9-3 was based on the GM platform, Saab re-engineered quite a lot of it to turn it into a unique model, and that was one of the reasons GM pulled the plug, they were unhappy that Saab refused to tow the GM party line. Granted a lot of the running gear was GM parts bin, especially the diesel variants, but body seating and control layouts were definitely Saab creations and better for it.

It was the GM bits that eventually let my X plate 2.2 diesel down.
I don't know of many vehicles that have been absorbed by other makers and then been reformed and finished upper of a higher quality than before...Gary
 
Nov 11, 2009
23,200
7,875
50,935
Nice pictures of our local Wartburg with towbar too.

 
Nov 11, 2009
23,200
7,875
50,935
I lost interest in Saab when GM bought them - when the then New 900, later becoming the 9-3, was introduced it was very obviously a re-skinned Vauxhall Cavalier mk3 - although perversely Saab parts were cheaper than their Vauxhall equivalent.
The SAAB 9-3 and 9-5 had considerable differences to the mainstream GM products. The final 900 was a reskinned GM, but Saab designers incorporated structural enhancements in 9-5 and 9-3 to the GM range and is one reason why GM closed them down as they were becoming uneconomic to produce. My daughter had a 9-3 turbo and it was a lovely car and the engine and powertrain were little different to my wife’s 1997 Saab 9000 2.3 turbo.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

TRENDING THREADS

Latest posts