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Just as I suspected..... too much choice🙂

Our van is tiny compared with some of the pictures. The waste outlets are less than 1m from the rear corner so not a lot of pipe to support along the van. Also means I don't need much pipe to get to the corner of a pitch.
 
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Just as I suspected..... too much choice🙂

Our van is tiny compared with some of the pictures. The waste outlets are less than 1m from the rear corner so not a lot of pipe to support along the van. Also means I don't need much pipe to get to the corner of a
Over the years I have acquired various waste pipe lengths
You’d be surprised how many times the drain is on the wrong side. And goes uphill!
 
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Yes...just had a stroll around the site we're currently on and while most serviced pitches have the drain on the same side as our waste outlets, one or two share a drain between two pitches. So one gets a short run and the other a longer one.

Personally I could wash in a hub cap full of water and lick the plates but certain parties would have other ideas 😉😉
 
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I see it differently. Woodentop is correct. The water can only enter the caravan if a tap is turned on. The chance of a caravan pipe failing is minimal compared to mains pressure constantly stressing the pipes. I accept my pipes do hold a small pressure but no where near mains. When the aqua roll float fails the water overflows , not into the caravan
Apologies if my post was not clear. My post referred to a pipe in the caravan coming loose which can and does happen. Then no matter what the caravan is flooded.

In one case we had a pin hole leak on a hot water pipe and the other was when the filter connection came loose and flooded the caravan. In both cases whether using mains direct or aquaroll system the caravan would be flooded so no real difference between using either except a lot less hassle using direct mains. Now up to Sam to decide. :D
 
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Apologies if my post was not clear. My post referred to a pipe in the caravan coming loose which can and does happen. Then no matter what the caravan is flooded.

In one case we had a pin hole leak on a hot water pipe and the other was when the filter connection came loose and flooded the caravan. In both cases whether using mains direct or aquaroll system the caravan would be flooded so no real difference between using either except a lot less hassle using direct mains. Now up to Sam to decide. :D
No need to apologise. There never is a correct answer , just good varied discussion.
 
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An internal pipe failure would only continue to flood a caravan if the supply pressure is maintained, as with direct feeds and pressure switch based caravan water systems. Not where the caravan water pump system is outlet switched as with micro-switched faucets.

Plus the likelihood of a piping system failure where subjected to excessively high pressures, is greater than with systems where the supply simply can't generate over pressure.
 
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Just had a quick look at our van. I looks a straight forward job to move the waste outlets from the near side to the middle of the rear side. This way it would be easier to connect to a drain on either side.

Also a little easier to get a slope from front to back to improve the drain off.
 
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Just had a quick look at our van. I looks a straight forward job to move the waste outlets from the near side to the middle of the rear side. This way it would be easier to connect to a drain on either side.

Also a little easier to get a slope from front to back to improve the drain off.
Be a bit careful with that - that's where the outlets were on my last 'van, and if you're on a pitch with a slope from back to front (so the back of the van is close to the ground) it can be a right performance to get the waste running into the Wastemaster. If you're only ever going to use serviced pitches then it won't bother you as I've never seen one that wasn't almost completely flat, but just be aware it might become an issue.
 
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Just had a quick look at our van. I looks a straight forward job to move the waste outlets from the near side to the middle of the rear side. This way it would be easier to connect to a drain on either side.

Also a little easier to get a slope from front to back to improve the drain off.
Not really as the drain on the nearside could be situated in the middle between two pitches making it awkward to reach if you have an awning erected.

We once came across a pitch where the drain was at the front of the pitch??? I guess no matter what you do, a site owner will try and make it as awkward as possible. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
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Be a bit careful with that - that's where the outlets were on my last 'van, and if you're on a pitch with a slope from back to front (so the back of the van is close to the ground) it can be a right performance to get the waste running into the Wastemaster. If you're only ever going to use serviced pitches then it won't bother you as I've never seen one that wasn't almost completely flat, but just be aware it might become an issue.
Didn't Lunars put the drains in the center of the rear of the van, with attendant. problems on sloping pitches?
 
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I have never understood the idea that a sloping pitch affects rear drainage,as if th evan is level front to back ,the drain will slope downwards towards the back, we never had a problem on sloping pitches when we had rear drains
 
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I have never understood the idea that a sloping pitch affects rear drainage,as if th evan is level front to back ,the drain will slope downwards towards the back, we never had a problem on sloping pitches when we had rear drains
I guess that it all depends on the angle of thecslope. I’ve seen caravans on some sites where the rear mounted drain outlets were having to have the pitch scraped away under the drain outlet in order to level the caravan.
 
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I guess that it all depends on the angle of thecslope. I’ve seen caravans on some sites where the rear mounted drain outlets were having to have the pitch scraped away under the drain outlet in order to level the caravan.
A pretty poor pitch! Fit for purpose🤔🤔😄
 
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A pretty poor pitch! Fit for purpose🤔🤔😄
One at Grange over Sands on a regular site, the other at a CL in Monmouthshire. At Grange over Sands I even loaned the guy my Bebbington leg extenders as his front steadies were unstable and even with three breeze blocks under them it didn’t look safe. Concern was if it should run away we were opposite. The CL had more blocks and timbers than a Jewsons outlet.
 
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One at Grange over Sands on a regular site, the other at a CL in Monmouthshire. At Grange over Sands I even loaned the guy my Bebbington leg extenders as his front steadies were unstable and even with three breeze blocks under them it didn’t look safe. Concern was if it should run away we were opposite. The CL had more blocks and timbers than a Jewsons outlet.
An old friend of mine, sadly no longer with us. This was in Monmouthshire.

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Limited room to drain from the rear. But we had great views.

John
 

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Be a bit careful with that - that's where the outlets were on my last 'van, and if you're on a pitch with a slope from back to front (so the back of the van is close to the ground) it can be a right performance to get the waste running into the Wastemaster. If you're only ever going to use serviced pitches then it won't bother you as I've never seen one that wasn't almost completely flat, but just be aware it might become an issue.
It's a good point but if I'm carrying an extra length of waste pipe for use on an fsp anyway, then the waste master can be placed on the side of the van, down the slope and the pipe run into it.
 
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Not really as the drain on the nearside could be situated in the middle between two pitches making it awkward to reach if you have an awning erected.

We once came across a pitch where the drain was at the front of the pitch??? I guess no matter what you do, a site owner will try and make it as awkward as possible. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
If the drain is on the near side, which is not the awning side (i.e. curb side) then no problem. As the awning is on the other side then I just need a suitable length of waste pipe from rear to drain.

Same if the drain is on the awning side except perhaps a little longer run to go around the awning, but not as tricky as if the waste outlets were on the opposite side to the awning. I which case you'd need to go under the van and around the awning rear. Not really a big deal if you have enough pipe. In my small van the difference in pipe length from side to under van and around awning would only be about an extra metre compared with coming out the rear

Nothing seems to be in the way underneath that would stop me doing it. I think it would probably be a winter job as I'm thinking about re- running the waste pipes anyway to get a better flow from the kitchen sink.

There's always going to be some ' gotcha' though 😉
 
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I have never understood the idea that a sloping pitch affects rear drainage,as if th evan is level front to back ,the drain will slope downwards towards the back, we never had a problem on sloping pitches when we had rear drains
It's not about drainage within the van, but if the back of the van is close to the ground, the waste outlets on the van can be lower than the inlet on the Wastemaster.
 
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My van, and probably most other vans, was drained underneath with convoluted pipes fitted hard to the floor. I changed them all for domestic waste and used spacers to get a little fall to the outlets.

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Not really as the drain on the nearside could be situated in the middle between two pitches making it awkward to reach if you have an awning erected.

We once came across a pitch where the drain was at the front of the pitch??? I guess no matter what you do, a site owner will try and make it as awkward as possible. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Are you sure you were pitched the correct way round. 🥴
 

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