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Jan 19, 2008
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In answer to your reply regarding LOCKING them up highlander the answer is no if the image you are trying to portray is of what the Romanian orphanages consist of. These people are mentally and physically disabled and we also have them. The difference is here they are not wandering the streets as tramps, they are looked after in sheltered accommodation with trained care staff.

What I am trying to portray is there are people who shouldn't be left wandering the streets.

Although the person I mentioned has a sheltered one bedroom house he is totally incapable of looking after himself or holding a conversation. All he does is make a nuisance of himself by using filthy language while wandering the city streets or stood in shop doorways. When he jumps in front of an old person shouting profanities it shouldn't be allowed to happen. It's certainly not what I would want to happen to my wife let alone my mother or late grandmother.

Your original post mentioned tramps who are no bother, or even cost for that matter, to society, not those that were brought up because of Cesescu's policies.

I can only speak for our local psychiatric hospital which due to my job I took patients to frequently. This hospital was large, airy and light with massive landscaped grounds. It resembled a stately home and probably was in days gone by. Only the patients who were a danger to themselves or others were kept secure, the vast majority were allowed to wander at will and the main gates were never locked or had security personnel.

These people were well looked after and there's no doubt the person I mentioned in my post would have been a 'patient' there.

The problem was the upkeep, it must have been massive so the answer was to close them and throw the residents out. The local NHS must have spent millions on buying property and converting them to flats. They still had to have the follow up care through the NHS but now social services became involved. A lot of the 'patients' were now like fish out of water and hardly ventured out of doors although a couple of them I knew would go outside and sit on the wall for a ***.

Which is the best way I don't know but what I do know is that someone walking up to someone and inches from their face spewing out gross language shouldn't be allowed.

A totally different perspective from your original post about tramps.
 
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I forgot to add that todays answer to the psychiatric hospital I mentioned is a unit attached to the main hospital. It is the most dark, dingy place, although new, that one can imagine. The entrance carpet was only what I could descibe as a zig zag pattern in orange and brown. Any drug users entering the place must have thought they were tripping. The place was so informal that you couldn't tell the patients from the staff. When we took patients to be admitted it was the usual custom of ambulance staff to wait until someone stood up, we assumed then it was staff so we could hand over. This practice didn't always work. At this particular time patients were allowed to smoke, probably stopping them went against their human rights, and due to the low ceilings and lack of windows it was a permanent fog and reeked of stale baccy. The only room with any light was their restaurant and that led out to a garden with a patio with enough room for a table and 4 chairs plus 2 shrubs.

I know which place I'd sooner be.
 
Dec 14, 2006
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One of our more famous tramps was called 'The Hillards Rep' because he always carried two large Hillards carrier bags.

It was discovered, after he was found dead in local woodland, he was the son of one of the richest families in the town. When he died, childless and 'penniless' not that long ago he had actually inherited a very large fortune, including several prestigious properties.

Who knows what had sent him on his original wanderings - but his whole life must have been quite a sad one.

Has anyone in the Yorkshire area seen 'the Wandering Monk' recently - dressed in his brown habit, open toed sandals, and wide smile and cheery greeting for everyone he meets?? Is he still around? I haven't seen him for a long time.
 
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For many years we had a lady tramp in Northampton. She used a supermarket trolly for all her worldly possessions. I don't know what happened to her.
Do you mean Rosa? Tiny little thing always wrapped up in a mac. I heard she died a few years ago. And then there's the middle-aged scruffy 'lady' (and I use the term loosely!!) of Asian extraction who's exceedingly friendly to men in return for a couple of cigarettes! ;-)
 
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I don't understand why Scots call something small "wee". Perhaps Highlander would care to explain.

We call a child an anklebiter or picanin, a small town a dorpie and a pickup or Ute a "bakkie" where I come from.
 
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One of our more famous tramps was called 'The Hillards Rep' because he always carried two large Hillards carrier bags.

It was discovered, after he was found dead in local woodland, he was the son of one of the richest families in the town. When he died, childless and 'penniless' not that long ago he had actually inherited a very large fortune, including several prestigious properties.

Who knows what had sent him on his original wanderings - but his whole life must have been quite a sad one.

Has anyone in the Yorkshire area seen 'the Wandering Monk' recently - dressed in his brown habit, open toed sandals, and wide smile and cheery greeting for everyone he meets?? Is he still around? I haven't seen him for a long time.
Hillards, wow thats a blast from the past.
 

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