chrissie,
I would agree that the C.C.C. certainly has the best locations ,can only speak for Scotland though.
I would agree that the C.C.C. certainly has the best locations ,can only speak for Scotland though.
What is the future of the C & C Club
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I only belong to the C&CC and have eperienced no problems with it. I have stuck with the C&CC as the sites as most of the sites have not felt as regimented as the few CC sites I have eperienced over the years. The CCC charges have seemed to increase a little faster than some but I have always found the toilet blocks in good order and the Site Managers helpful. It is inevitable that at some busy sites there will need to be some structure to the location of units at busy times in order to avoid Units being place ad hoc in an inefficient layout.I have also found the Carefree service very helpful and efficient for my journeys across the channel.
Alun you can't get more regimented than the Camping & Caravan Club. The facilities for those that use them are inferior,in fact how the waste water disposal/drinking water facility passes Health & Safety I don't know. The pitches are also inferior. Some wardens need to remember it's the members who pay their wages but there were nice wardens, the ones at Ebury Hill. There is no need for the wardens to be in competition with Basil Fawlty. In their favour is the Age Concession. Money certainly needs spending on the roadways at places like Luss and Rhandirmyn. Having just done a tally for this year we visited 6 C& CC sites and 10 C C ones. There was only one warden (the hubby) of the C C sites that wasnt too friendly (a mumbled g'morning was the extent of his conversation LOLOL) but only one C & C C warden that didnt give you that air of superiority. Regarding your comments about toilet blocks Alun you obviously haven't been to the C & C C site at Clumber Park, it's a PortaCabin. It's a good job we aren't all the same though else we would all be in just the one club meaning it would be harder to get a pitch heheheh! Each to their own I suppose.
I think we all a bit silly to get into a bebate as to which club is better.
Each club has its own merits and will apeal to a different type of customer.
One thing I would say is we are very lucky to have two really good clubs in this country which offer so much. I, being a member of both clubs, could go into the various merits of each club but it would only be my view which I am sure would be different to the next person.
Each club has its own merits and will apeal to a different type of customer.
One thing I would say is we are very lucky to have two really good clubs in this country which offer so much. I, being a member of both clubs, could go into the various merits of each club but it would only be my view which I am sure would be different to the next person.
I am a member of both clubs and find not a great deal of difference between the standards.
My wife and I enjoy the benefits of the Age Concession of the C&CC and the odd free nights stay (thanks to the Passport system) but we enjoy the mix of caravans etc. and tents.
I feel that it is wonderful to have the young families with the children and babies sharing the same space and freedom as us oldies.
To Lord Braykewynde I would just say that the loss of Clumber Park dismayed me a lot, and I appreciate that the conveniences were in a portacabin, but this was due to the restraints imposed by the Park Guardians (who have now taken back the walled garden).
For an example of the differences between the two clubs, mayI suggest that you pay a visit to Blackmore, and look at the adjoining sites.
The C&CC is green and welcoming, whereas the CC site is much like a carpark, all hard standings.
However, we are all different and the choice is yours.
Vive le difference!
Alan
My wife and I enjoy the benefits of the Age Concession of the C&CC and the odd free nights stay (thanks to the Passport system) but we enjoy the mix of caravans etc. and tents.
I feel that it is wonderful to have the young families with the children and babies sharing the same space and freedom as us oldies.
To Lord Braykewynde I would just say that the loss of Clumber Park dismayed me a lot, and I appreciate that the conveniences were in a portacabin, but this was due to the restraints imposed by the Park Guardians (who have now taken back the walled garden).
For an example of the differences between the two clubs, mayI suggest that you pay a visit to Blackmore, and look at the adjoining sites.
The C&CC is green and welcoming, whereas the CC site is much like a carpark, all hard standings.
However, we are all different and the choice is yours.
Vive le difference!
Alan
There seems to be a clear difference between the "normal" site of each club, not that I'm a fan of either style.
Is there a corresponding difference between CL/CS sites within the two clubs?
I always struggle to find much choice in CC CL's in rural and remote areas and I'm considering joining the C&CC just to access their CS's.
Would I be wasting my money joining both?
Is there a corresponding difference between CL/CS sites within the two clubs?
I always struggle to find much choice in CC CL's in rural and remote areas and I'm considering joining the C&CC just to access their CS's.
Would I be wasting my money joining both?
Not sure but this site might help -There seems to be a clear difference between the "normal" site of each club, not that I'm a fan of either style.
Is there a corresponding difference between CL/CS sites within the two clubs?
I always struggle to find much choice in CC CL's in rural and remote areas and I'm considering joining the C&CC just to access their CS's.
Would I be wasting my money joining both?
http://www.5van.co.uk/
Hi:
Your comments on both camping clubs is interesting, My experiance with the Caravan Club was in 1968 at a club owned site in these days pre booking had not evolved, so on arrival I was told that I could not come on to their site as I did not have a proper caravan [ mine was a folding van ] the owner was extremly rude, and adamant, that only proper vans were allowed on club sites, As I was a fully paid member I had not come across this in the rules, at this point he just walked off.
I was very angrey, but the only thing to do was to turn round and try somewhere else, a few miles down the road I came to a camping club site, the owner could not have been more friendly just find a suitable pitch, then come back and see me.
What a difference, whilst talking to him later on I found out that the c.c site were well known for their attitude. On my return home I wrote a very strong letter to the Caravan Club Chief exec. after six months I got a very negative reply, which simply said the owner can admit or refuse any thing he likes. I had asked for the remainding nine months membership money to be refunded, No reply,freindly eh! needles to say I joined the camping club and have been ever since, I mostly use field sites or CL's as they have become known, smaller is quieter and more freindly.
The site in question is somewhere neer Worcester, doutfull if it's still arround hope not.
I have allso heard on the grapevine that both clubs are about to mearge as the Camping club is the larger it will no dout dominate the new club, lets hope so.
Jim M
Your comments on both camping clubs is interesting, My experiance with the Caravan Club was in 1968 at a club owned site in these days pre booking had not evolved, so on arrival I was told that I could not come on to their site as I did not have a proper caravan [ mine was a folding van ] the owner was extremly rude, and adamant, that only proper vans were allowed on club sites, As I was a fully paid member I had not come across this in the rules, at this point he just walked off.
I was very angrey, but the only thing to do was to turn round and try somewhere else, a few miles down the road I came to a camping club site, the owner could not have been more friendly just find a suitable pitch, then come back and see me.
What a difference, whilst talking to him later on I found out that the c.c site were well known for their attitude. On my return home I wrote a very strong letter to the Caravan Club Chief exec. after six months I got a very negative reply, which simply said the owner can admit or refuse any thing he likes. I had asked for the remainding nine months membership money to be refunded, No reply,freindly eh! needles to say I joined the camping club and have been ever since, I mostly use field sites or CL's as they have become known, smaller is quieter and more freindly.
The site in question is somewhere neer Worcester, doutfull if it's still arround hope not.
I have allso heard on the grapevine that both clubs are about to mearge as the Camping club is the larger it will no dout dominate the new club, lets hope so.
Jim M
I haven't heard that rumour and if they are to merge they will have to get the members to vote in favour. I for one would not be in favour of them merging they are to big already we need the competion to keep sites fees down.
I would like to see the clubs split up even further by selling off 1/2 the sites and using the money to create more basic sites we need more sites and its one way to achieve it.
I would like to see the clubs split up even further by selling off 1/2 the sites and using the money to create more basic sites we need more sites and its one way to achieve it.
I would like to see sites with hardstanding just big enough to accommodate a caravan so that your awning is on grass. Secondly all pitches should have EHU, water and waste water connections. The toilet facilities should be a bare minimum as all the connections are on your pitch. This would be lower maintenance and a few basic pitches can be thrown in for good luck. As for the C & CC which is run mainly by retired RSMsand charge early entry and kick you out by 12pm even if they are not full, NO THANKS! Too many bad experience with them notably Winchcombe.
Ian, not everybody wants this type of pitch - we certainly don't. The costs of which would be prohibitive to some people, and why should they miss out? Both clubs need to cater for the needs of everybody, not just those who are too tired to fill an aquaroll!! IMHOI would like to see sites with hardstanding just big enough to accommodate a caravan so that your awning is on grass. Secondly all pitches should have EHU, water and waste water connections. The toilet facilities should be a bare minimum as all the connections are on your pitch. This would be lower maintenance and a few basic pitches can be thrown in for good luck. As for the C & CC which is run mainly by retired RSMsand charge early entry and kick you out by 12pm even if they are not full, NO THANKS! Too many bad experience with them notably Winchcombe.
Hmmmmm 1968 eh! let's see, that's nearly 38 years ago Jim, I think times have moved on since. Regarding the bigger of the two clubs the Caravan Club owns more sites and if what you say is true I only hope their customs and practices are followed and not the regimented Camping Clubs.Hi:
Your comments on both camping clubs is interesting, My experiance with the Caravan Club was in 1968 at a club owned site in these days pre booking had not evolved, so on arrival I was told that I could not come on to their site as I did not have a proper caravan [ mine was a folding van ] the owner was extremly rude, and adamant, that only proper vans were allowed on club sites, As I was a fully paid member I had not come across this in the rules, at this point he just walked off.
I was very angrey, but the only thing to do was to turn round and try somewhere else, a few miles down the road I came to a camping club site, the owner could not have been more friendly just find a suitable pitch, then come back and see me.
What a difference, whilst talking to him later on I found out that the c.c site were well known for their attitude. On my return home I wrote a very strong letter to the Caravan Club Chief exec. after six months I got a very negative reply, which simply said the owner can admit or refuse any thing he likes. I had asked for the remainding nine months membership money to be refunded, No reply,freindly eh! needles to say I joined the camping club and have been ever since, I mostly use field sites or CL's as they have become known, smaller is quieter and more freindly.
The site in question is somewhere neer Worcester, doutfull if it's still arround hope not.
I have allso heard on the grapevine that both clubs are about to mearge as the Camping club is the larger it will no dout dominate the new club, lets hope so.
Jim M
Agree with Ian on the regimented Camping Club, agree with Wendy regarding the pitches. I'm happy as long as I've got EHU, I paid
At least the CC have not got David Bellamy trying to dictate policy. Perhaps the C&CC will evolve into a completely "green" club. Perhaps when you arrive on site after paying your
Wendy that is why I said a few basic pitches can be thrown in with no amenities however I think that people requiring this type of pitch are in the minority, but their needs need to be catered for.I would like to see sites with hardstanding just big enough to accommodate a caravan so that your awning is on grass. Secondly all pitches should have EHU, water and waste water connections. The toilet facilities should be a bare minimum as all the connections are on your pitch. This would be lower maintenance and a few basic pitches can be thrown in for good luck. As for the C & CC which is run mainly by retired RSMsand charge early entry and kick you out by 12pm even if they are not full, NO THANKS! Too many bad experience with them notably Winchcombe.
Ian, sorry but what makes you think that the majority of people would prefer a fully serviced pitch. Many people enjoy the socialisation of the service area, even putting some rubbish in the bin usually entails a "good morning" to somebody! OK most people would prefer EHU - but not everybody, and you cannot dismiss the needs of tent campers when you are refering to the C&CC, which is what this topic is about.I would like to see sites with hardstanding just big enough to accommodate a caravan so that your awning is on grass. Secondly all pitches should have EHU, water and waste water connections. The toilet facilities should be a bare minimum as all the connections are on your pitch. This would be lower maintenance and a few basic pitches can be thrown in for good luck. As for the C & CC which is run mainly by retired RSMsand charge early entry and kick you out by 12pm even if they are not full, NO THANKS! Too many bad experience with them notably Winchcombe.
Agree with Ian on the regimented Camping Club, agree with Wendy regarding the pitches. I'm happy as long as I've got EHU, I paid
I always thought caravanning and camping was a hobby for the majority and not what appears for the well to do. Not everyone can afford super pitches or even want to hire one of these. I have never used a super pitch and even rarely used the toilet in the van. I have never showered in the van - in both cases I have where possible used the site facilities. Why have all this extra weight to carry on the van and also the potch of aqua rolls running out in mid shower. With the cost of a caravan and decent towcar these days the industry is pricing it self out from the average family man. This type of holiday was originally there for those who could not afford hotels or trips abraod and was looked upon as a cheap and chearful family holiday. What is happening to this original concept - nowadays you need approx
At least the CC have not got David Bellamy trying to dictate policy. Perhaps the C&CC will evolve into a completely "green" club. Perhaps when you arrive on site after paying your
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Colin,
I think you may be diverting this thread on to one discussing the financial implications of caravanning. That is fine but maybe should really be raised as a separate post. This one if memory serves was discussing the relative merits of the CC and the C&CC. Did I miss something in all the posts or was there a mention of the Clubs combining somewhere? I find this strange and feel it is most unlikely, at least I hope not. This would lead to re-structuring and we all know what that means. Fewer sites , good or bad, and dearer fees.
There are good and bad people on all sites. Yes , I have stayed on sites with the C&CC where the facilities were not so good, they call it getting back to nature?? I have also 'suffered' the CC site at Peterborough when it has been invaded by the local weeekenders who roam in packs and have a hell of a time at everyone else's expense. When Sunday evening comes around I, and many others can breathe a sigh of relief. But, I am now aware of that foible and if necessary can avoid it. It does not stop me enjoying the sites from both organisations, especially if it has been a long drive and I am looking for a site.....any site.
I think you may be diverting this thread on to one discussing the financial implications of caravanning. That is fine but maybe should really be raised as a separate post. This one if memory serves was discussing the relative merits of the CC and the C&CC. Did I miss something in all the posts or was there a mention of the Clubs combining somewhere? I find this strange and feel it is most unlikely, at least I hope not. This would lead to re-structuring and we all know what that means. Fewer sites , good or bad, and dearer fees.
There are good and bad people on all sites. Yes , I have stayed on sites with the C&CC where the facilities were not so good, they call it getting back to nature?? I have also 'suffered' the CC site at Peterborough when it has been invaded by the local weeekenders who roam in packs and have a hell of a time at everyone else's expense. When Sunday evening comes around I, and many others can breathe a sigh of relief. But, I am now aware of that foible and if necessary can avoid it. It does not stop me enjoying the sites from both organisations, especially if it has been a long drive and I am looking for a site.....any site.
We are in both clubs and so can use more sites !!!
The Caravan club sent us a card and congratulations on 25 years membership.
The benefit of 25 years membership is a sticker with 25 years membership on it but no instructions where to stick it.I could think of somewhere.
The C&CC on the other hand do give reduction for geriatrics young and old !!
We have only had one bad experience in 25 years with a warden but I will not recount it here as when I did on another website after saying that it was our one bad experience I was accused of venting my spleen and told that my final retort was the reason that I had to make it in the first(last) place !!
We always go abroad with the C& CC Holiday Rallies and thoroughly enjoy the way they are organised.
The Caravan club sent us a card and congratulations on 25 years membership.
The benefit of 25 years membership is a sticker with 25 years membership on it but no instructions where to stick it.I could think of somewhere.
The C&CC on the other hand do give reduction for geriatrics young and old !!
We have only had one bad experience in 25 years with a warden but I will not recount it here as when I did on another website after saying that it was our one bad experience I was accused of venting my spleen and told that my final retort was the reason that I had to make it in the first(last) place !!
We always go abroad with the C& CC Holiday Rallies and thoroughly enjoy the way they are organised.
Hi DAvid I was not trying to divert the topic, I was replying to a previous posting regarding the opinion that all pitches should be super pitches. Fair enough I may have meandered slightly but my point was that this hobby is getting more and more expensive year by year without the extra costs of having to be restricted to a super pitch or nothing else.Colin,
I think you may be diverting this thread on to one discussing the financial implications of caravanning. That is fine but maybe should really be raised as a separate post. This one if memory serves was discussing the relative merits of the CC and the C&CC. Did I miss something in all the posts or was there a mention of the Clubs combining somewhere? I find this strange and feel it is most unlikely, at least I hope not. This would lead to re-structuring and we all know what that means. Fewer sites , good or bad, and dearer fees.
There are good and bad people on all sites. Yes , I have stayed on sites with the C&CC where the facilities were not so good, they call it getting back to nature?? I have also 'suffered' the CC site at Peterborough when it has been invaded by the local weeekenders who roam in packs and have a hell of a time at everyone else's expense. When Sunday evening comes around I, and many others can breathe a sigh of relief. But, I am now aware of that foible and if necessary can avoid it. It does not stop me enjoying the sites from both organisations, especially if it has been a long drive and I am looking for a site.....any site.
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Colin,Hi DAvid I was not trying to divert the topic, I was replying to a previous posting regarding the opinion that all pitches should be super pitches. Fair enough I may have meandered slightly but my point was that this hobby is getting more and more expensive year by year without the extra costs of having to be restricted to a super pitch or nothing else.
No problem. Bung it up as a post in its own right and I am sure it will get a lot of comments.
James and friends, I am sure you will be delighted to know that you do not have to wait for your opportunity to weild a machete!
You could join the C&CC's 'Countryside Care' teams of volunteers and do just that on most weekend's through the year, working on projects designed to improve the environment for the benefit of us all.
Personally, I am proud to belong to a Club that gives high priority to 'green' issues. I certainly have never felt dictated to by David Bellamy and indeed strongly disagree with him on some issues (such as wind farms, for instance).
There do seem to be a few of you on here who seem to feel rather threatened by the existence of an alternative to the Caravan Club. I would certainly never deny that the CC is an excellent organisation, providing facilities and services of a high standard for its members. It just so happens that those facilities and services do not match my personal requirements quite as closely as do those provided by the C&CC. Is this really a problem for you? You like what your club offers - good, I am pleased for you. Is your enjoyment increased by casting scorn and derision on the one that suits me? Surely more choice must be good for us all?
You could join the C&CC's 'Countryside Care' teams of volunteers and do just that on most weekend's through the year, working on projects designed to improve the environment for the benefit of us all.
Personally, I am proud to belong to a Club that gives high priority to 'green' issues. I certainly have never felt dictated to by David Bellamy and indeed strongly disagree with him on some issues (such as wind farms, for instance).
There do seem to be a few of you on here who seem to feel rather threatened by the existence of an alternative to the Caravan Club. I would certainly never deny that the CC is an excellent organisation, providing facilities and services of a high standard for its members. It just so happens that those facilities and services do not match my personal requirements quite as closely as do those provided by the C&CC. Is this really a problem for you? You like what your club offers - good, I am pleased for you. Is your enjoyment increased by casting scorn and derision on the one that suits me? Surely more choice must be good for us all?
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