Hi All. I am after a bit of expert advice as a soon to be caravaner with a young family and were a bit stuck as I am sure a perfect layout is available to us, but perhaps I’m struggling with the time of year to buy so there are fewer options available to me? We have been looking at a large 4 birth, 5 or 6 – pretty open to that side of things. What we really want is bedroom (has to be bunks as they love bunks) where we can shut the kids away (ideally at the back of the van) so we don’t wake them from 7.30pm when they go to bed when we are cooking or playing cards, glass of wine etc. We also really want a proper toilet/shower and not a wet room – ideally a totally separate screened shower. We ideally want something from 2005 onwards (ideally 2007 or 2008+), and have about 8k to spend. Simple you think? Well yes I did until I involved my wife . We had 2 main contenders – Abbey Vogue 540 and a Swift Challenger 490. The Abbey has a wet room but seemed lovely apart from that, whilst the Swift has a great end room, but the bunk layout is not ideal and would rather have it more like a fixed bunk like the vogue which we can close off for the kids and not have to fight over who has the double and who has the bunk as well as the top person clambering over the person in the double to go to the toilet. Is there a caravan out there which has a layout like the Abbey but has a proper bathroom/showroom type thing and not a wet room. We would be happy for the rear or front room to be smaller. A van with the bunks in the middle by the kitchen would not suit us as we would wake the kids (they are light sleepers as it is). I could consider a rear ended bathroom IF the bunks were closed off next to it (i.e. we walk through the bunks to get to bathroom). A twin single bed again is not suitable as doesn’t give the kids the fun factor. Complex or are there solutions and I just can’t see them? Thanks in advance if anyone has any good ideas!