at last they got someting right

[coljac]

Ive just heard that the EU has kicked out the proposal [that booze and fags could be bought on line from EU countries with low exise duty , and no UK tax paid ].

Lets face it the country has to be funded from revenue and taxing booze and fags is better than income tax increases.

I like a drink and i also like to enjoy the odd booze cruise

Well it is November and it is caravan related in a way.

Coljac

 

[RogerL]

What's the Beaujolais Nouveau like this year?

 

[coljac]

What's the Beaujolais Nouveau like this year?

Dont know ,im a boddingtons man myself

 

[dragon32a]

Couldn't agree more. Why shouldnt we give loads of money to the EU and put up with they're stupid laws,crappy cheese,expensive wine and garlic laden food in our restaurants, plus their refugees, and not get anything in return. It makes sense. If we stop giving then our hard earned tax money then we can have discounted booze and fags and the income tax wont have to go anywere. Only in England would we put up with EU rules with none of the advantages of actually being a member.

Don

 

[CliveV]

Donald - have to disagree with you. Some of the real injustices of our laws have been overturned at the European Courts. One important one I dealt with was the pension rights of part time employees.

There have been many other cases where bizarre and cruel injustices have been righted by the EU Courts.

The problem we have in the UK seems to me more to do with the way our Civil Servants gleefully read an EU Directive that suggests member countries do this or that but our Civil Servants "Gold Plate" (i.e. Add yet more regulatory burden) and pass it into UK Law.

The French for one are staggered that we allow such things to happen.

A good example is the wonderful French Cheese that is matured in natural caves. The EU suggested a common hygiene standard which the French said "OK - but this will not apply to specialist produce"

Whereas we in the UK had stony faced officials that went around closing down all the wonderful local cheese manufacturers because to implement the now "Gold Plated" UK standards would put them out of business.

Most EU citizens shake their heads in disbelief at our ability to take a "usually" sensible EU directive and turn it into something that causes commercial suicide for UK business.

My view, having experienced it, is that it is the classic UK "Jobs-Worth" attitude that is to blame. Not the EU.

 

[chrissie2]

Donald - have to disagree with you. Some of the real injustices of our laws have been overturned at the European Courts. One important one I dealt with was the pension rights of part time employees.

There have been many other cases where bizarre and cruel injustices have been righted by the EU Courts.

The problem we have in the UK seems to me more to do with the way our Civil Servants gleefully read an EU Directive that suggests member countries do this or that but our Civil Servants "Gold Plate" (i.e. Add yet more regulatory burden) and pass it into UK Law.

The French for one are staggered that we allow such things to happen.

A good example is the wonderful French Cheese that is matured in natural caves. The EU suggested a common hygiene standard which the French said "OK - but this will not apply to specialist produce"

Whereas we in the UK had stony faced officials that went around closing down all the wonderful local cheese manufacturers because to implement the now "Gold Plated" UK standards would put them out of business.

Most EU citizens shake their heads in disbelief at our ability to take a "usually" sensible EU directive and turn it into something that causes commercial suicide for UK business.

My view, having experienced it, is that it is the classic UK "Jobs-Worth" attitude that is to blame. Not the EU.

Good to find an issue where I agree with you 100%, Clive!

 

[Dusty1]

What's the Beaujolais Nouveau like this year?

BODDINGTONS!!!!! Boddingtons is no longer Boddingtons as it ain't brewed from well water situated between Stangeways jail and the murky River Irwell!!!!!

 

[coljac]

What's the Beaujolais Nouveau like this year?

Boddingtons the brewery is sadly no more but Boddingtons the beer is still available .Allbeit brewed by some none Mancunian lot . Beartown beer brewed in Congleton is also a good pint but its to good to export out of Cheshire .Now theres a thought for these dark november nights when there is not much caravan talk

WHO BREWS THE BEST BEER ??? Coljac

 

[coljac]

Donald - have to disagree with you. Some of the real injustices of our laws have been overturned at the European Courts. One important one I dealt with was the pension rights of part time employees.

There have been many other cases where bizarre and cruel injustices have been righted by the EU Courts.

The problem we have in the UK seems to me more to do with the way our Civil Servants gleefully read an EU Directive that suggests member countries do this or that but our Civil Servants "Gold Plate" (i.e. Add yet more regulatory burden) and pass it into UK Law.

The French for one are staggered that we allow such things to happen.

A good example is the wonderful French Cheese that is matured in natural caves. The EU suggested a common hygiene standard which the French said "OK - but this will not apply to specialist produce"

Whereas we in the UK had stony faced officials that went around closing down all the wonderful local cheese manufacturers because to implement the now "Gold Plated" UK standards would put them out of business.

Most EU citizens shake their heads in disbelief at our ability to take a "usually" sensible EU directive and turn it into something that causes commercial suicide for UK business.

My view, having experienced it, is that it is the classic UK "Jobs-Worth" attitude that is to blame. Not the EU.

Clive I also agree with you .with each bit of new EU legislation our UK mandarines cant wait to take on more Inspectors [Gestapo],busy bodies, to poke and interfere with industry /farmers etc etc ,to impliment the later of the legislation where as the rest of the EU take the practical bits and side line the dross . And it does not matter which party is in power ,these fat cat tea drinkers are always there . Coljac

 

[Val & Frank]

I can't believe it !!!!!!

I think for the first time THREE people agree, and since we agree with the comments about our pratts gold plating EU law. It's now FIVE people in agreement. This must be a forum record ???.

Val & Frank

 

[Guest]

Well ad me as well.

It would have put ferry costs up if less booze cruisers went.

That in turn would have put a few customs and police on the doll.

+ what environmental good would it do shipping Scotch to Latvia and back to save

 

[Guest]

And I also agree with Clive, which is probably a first. I do also add that discussion, ok, argument is far more interesting than everyone agreeing all the time, and certainly on my part nothing is ever intended as a personal slight.

Mind you the EU is possibly an expensive way to achieve somethings that we could just do ourselves perhaps. The bright side is that 'Mandy' can now afford his 2 million pound house in London, and Lady Kinnockio can dance the night away in Barbados. It is a tough old life for the Eurocrats so have some sympathy.

But as Coljac points out it is a good excuse to take the van abroad, even if you don't like the quieter roads and sunshine.

 

[Arrow1]

Couldn't agree more. Why shouldnt we give loads of money to the EU and put up with they're stupid laws,crappy cheese,expensive wine and garlic laden food in our restaurants, plus their refugees, and not get anything in return. It makes sense. If we stop giving then our hard earned tax money then we can have discounted booze and fags and the income tax wont have to go anywere. Only in England would we put up with EU rules with none of the advantages of actually being a member.

Don

Seems like you English folk are having a hard time living under EU rules that you have no control of. The Welsh, Scottish and Irish have had to put up with English government for years, with no benefits, no input and no control until recently !!

Twlltin pob sais !

 

[Dusty1]

What's the Beaujolais Nouveau like this year?

As it's no longer the 'cream of Manchester' it should not be called Boddingtons:-(