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VIP640

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Mark,

I currently run an LC 120 for towing and a saloon car for my everyday life. But I would seriously consider a 300 Tourer which could do both....
 
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ShadySadie

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I agree, get what you want.

But seriously, you can pick up Chryslers as cheap as chips. Lease dealers can get a Voyager for less than the
 
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MichaelE

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With regards to the 300c unlikey to hold much of a price at trade in,this applies to all cars at the moment,BMW's & Mercedes are losing 5% of there value each month.

I bet Mark you wont lose as much as Shadies GL after 3 years
 
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xtrailman

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My nephew had one of these, with the big square chrome grill, it looked great, esaily mistaken for a bently.

I used to have on by calling him a drug dealer.

The merc engine was highly rated.

Unfortunatly it attracted too much attention while he was on his rent collecting round, so it had to go.

He now has a bland lexus 200.
 
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Jo-AnneFairway5402010

Feb 15, 2006
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mark i didnt realise you had got one until lee pointed it out lol.

i love these cars they are just so sexy so what if they look like a gangsters car id have one so would my craig he already looks like grant michell lol.

we have a 57 plate hyundai santa fe cdx 7, auto tiptronic box, self lev sus, leather etc etc. we was gonna change it for an xc90 but with the cost of fuel we would only gain a bigger boot, bigger engine and grunt,higher fuel bill, more max on the towball but ours inside was better spec because we could only of afforded the bottom xc90. my friend tells us craig looks like a ganster in the santa fe because its silver with really dark tints lol.

jo
 
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John_374224558

Sep 23, 2006
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Hi Mark,

We hired a 300C when out in the states a couple of years ago. It was an awesome motor- we had one with a 5.7 ltr petrol engine, and surprisingly easy to drive.

Only thing with the american version was the suspension was far too soft and I dont think would have taken much noseweight on the rear.European specced ones may be very different though.

That engine was thirsty mind cruising it did about 18mpg, down to 7mpg if I floored it!
 
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ScouseIan

Apr 23, 2007
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Hi Mark

I think, nice car. Looks different, and I don't mean thats short for ugly. I seriously considered one last year. I wanted a big car to tow with (first van) last year when I was replacing a BMW530D auto. I didn't fancy a jeep style car though.

The reason I didn't get one was I had been reading about the VW Phaeton (hands up those who don't know what it is). It is actually the VW badged version of the Bentley Continental made side by side at their factory in Dresden. I went to see one in May that was a demonstrator with tons of options (digital TV, 18 way air cond seats, sunroof, power boot, 19" wheels, bi-xenon). The list price for the car should have been
 
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Jo-AnneFairway5402010

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ian ive not heard of one maybe its because i dont watch top gear as much as i should lol. m gonna have a look on auto trader now to see what they look like.

jo
 
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Jo-AnneFairway5402010

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ian, i dont think it does look like a bentley continental but its a lovely car and a fab interior, great towcar etc and does everyting you want. i would have one but i would have a 300 touring first sorry ian. the 300 touring looks more like a bentley.

jo
 
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Glenn_5132962

Sep 5, 2006
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OMG there are some deluded people on here! The 300 is a horrific cross between US bling/tat & merc cast off parts from the old E class (the one that rusted away like a 70's Fiat). Whereas words fail me on the VW phaeton. It looks like a fat passat & saying its a re-badged Bentley is just lunacy. Bentleys are built in Crewe! Its not as good as an S-Class, 7-Series, Jaguar XJ or Audi A8.
 
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Del_374232870

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Sorry Glen, but that is your opinions , I think the 300C is great looking , chunky, comfy, different and fitted with a very robust engine. I certainly am not deluded , nor would I accuse others of being deluded for liking a car which is individual.

Everyone to their own.
 
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DavidW1

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Well I like it! So there.

The combination of rear wheel drive, large kerbweight and big V6 diesel should make it an excelent towcar.

PC tested one last year in comparisom to the V70 and it was virtually a drawn contest. The Volvo only came out on top becuase it scored more for a marginally bigger load space and thus practicality I think.

Also I think to a non petrolhead i.e. normal motoring person, it does LOOK like a Bently, SHMBO says it does too so that clinches it.

Also I have to agree
 
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GStockton

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Here is a bit of cut&paste from another forum,It seems these diesel engines are not as strong as some people think.

*Right now Mercedes Benz are trying to keep the lid on a series of expensive bearing failures of their new V6 turbo diesel

*Shell Helix plus is a semi synthetic oil. It does however meets the Mercedes Benz MB229.3 oil specification

*All car makers are under pressure to lower the average fuel consumption across their product ranges

The reason for setting out these seemingly disconnected facts is roughly as follows.

Modern turbo diesel engines are capable of very high torque outputs at fairly modest revs. The oil pressure is acceptable but can easily get to a position where the oil film can break down owing to the high loadings and highs temperature involved. This is why anybody with an interest in long engine life will be using a HTHS (High Temperature High Shear) oil in 0, 5 or 10W 40 spec. These tend to be full synthetics and in a Euro IV engine ideally looking for something that meets the ACEA C3 specification.

Car makers on the other hand will be looking for something that reduces fuel consumption across their range. These will tend to be low HTHS oils which usually are semi synthetics. In some cases these will be as low as 0W 20 rated and ACEA C1 spec. That simply does not make for long term durability.

And so to Mercedes Benz. Their new all singing all dancing V6 turbo diesel is a fine engine. But it has a bit of a problem in terms of bearings. The high torque output imposes a massive load and, sadly, such an engine only has four main bearings. (The previous straight six engine had seven bearings and if properly looked after would run to huge mileages.) Couple that with what has turned out to be underspecified bearing material, a less than ideal oil choice and knocking and rumbling bearings are popping up frequently.

To put it bluntly, in terms of a volume car maker the specified oil is usually good for the maker but not for you. IMO Shell Helix plus is simply not up to the job in terms of heavy towing or high torque off roading. I would suggest you should be using one of these with a 5,000 mile oil change:
 
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seth1

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having read this about the v6 merc,and i do admit im no lover of these german engines,having been around them for the last 20 years,in various sizes but mainly a lot bigger than these.and seen the problems they,ve had over the years,typically in german fashion,not admitting there is a fault but instead sticking with the questionable design,if i was in the market for one it wouldnt put me off.since the year dot MB v6,s have always had 4 mains,likewise the v8,s have 5 ,the v10,s have 6.its due to the fact the conrods use a common journal.which also happens to be offset ground.

the problem i would expect to be limited to a batch due to bad materials.
 
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Clockwork_374390647

Dec 23, 2008
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Some interesting info G Stockton.

I have the straight 6. 3 litre BMW diesel. 7 main bearing.

Helix Ultimate is one of the Oil listed for it, is Helix Ultimate good?

Is Helix Ultimate a better choice for the Merc engine?

Looking at your specs its not easy to find them and the oils.

Could you advise on Brands and which one to buy please?

I'm sure others would be interested.
 
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Rodone

Mar 17, 2007
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Re the 300C looking like a Bentley. My neighbour had a (rich?) visitor around a year or so ago who parked a genuine Bentley in my neighbours drive. Even though they spent ages oohing and aahing around it, I thought that it was a 300C, and it never struck me for a minute that it was the real thing. When I saw my my neighbour the next day, I told him that I thought his friend's car would probably make a good tow car, and that I had read write up's saying so, he gave me a funny look. I then went on about the association between Chrysler and Mercedes and his penny then dropped. He told me, very bluntly, that it WAS a Bentley, and I don't hear much from him anymore.
 
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Del_374232870

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The Merc V6 engine has a particulate filter fitted, so needs a special oil, I always use fully synthetic low ash oil as recomended. Change the oil twice a year ( as I always have done on all diesels) , taking 9.5 litres its not cheap but I believe in looking after an engine. Average oil and filter change costs me around
 
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Happy-Lappy

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The Merc V6 engine has a particulate filter fitted, so needs a special oil, I always use fully synthetic low ash oil as recomended. Change the oil twice a year ( as I always have done on all diesels) , taking 9.5 litres its not cheap but I believe in looking after an engine. Average oil and filter change costs me around
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GStockton

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Mr Clockwork. Sorry I cant pass comments on the Oils mentioned as I just pinched the thread from the Toyota landcruiser site tlocuk 120 series techicnical forum. or for info try http://www.opieoils.co.uk/c-792-c3.aspx
 
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