Crash camera ... anyone use one ?

[Sproket]

As the post say's,

Crash camera does anyone use one ? & if so what type as there are so many out there, after being undertaken on a roundabout & cut up by not one but two boy racers, I ended up parking my truck in one of there car boots on Saturday dinner time whilst on my way to work due to the first car slamming on the brakes with the second one close up behind him & leaving me with no were to go, had a quick choice very large lamp post on my left or moving traffic on my right ..... I can't repeat what I said to the moron when i got out

Am so glad that we did not have the van on the back at the time, as I now need a new bonnet, grill & complete front bumper

 

[Gagakev]

Obviously not, looks like you have another project on your hands Sprocket, go to it mate.

Sorry to hear about the tug but the main thing is I hope you are OK.

Some idiots out there.

 

[Sproket]

Kev.

On the roundabout where it happened I timed it this morning from setting off at the traffic lights under the motorway bridge to where it happened I travelled for 10 seconds yes that's 10 seconds to where the accident happened......

Am looking at this Trancend DrivePro 200 you can see a demo here

 

[Sproket]

On a lighter note the parts for the repair come to just over £1300.00 labour & paint take it to approx £2100.00 oh & it's plus Vat so that will take it to £2500.00 ish, all of this for ten seconds & trying to get a further 20' up the road.

 

[woodsieboy]

Sorry to hear of your mishap,just wondering what will happen to your 'victims car' are you liable for the repair to his boot,presumably he will need to inform his insurance company and provide statement,also if his car is modified and he has not told them he could well find that he is driving whilst uninsured, do you have any witnesses to the undertaking?
Next thing to expect could be a claim against you for whiplash.......as you say the main thing is you are not hurt and you can repair your truck,I have considered one of the cameras you mention, and if you go ahead I would be interested to hear how you get on fitting it.

 

[Surfer]

Normally insurance companies go for a 50/50 of this type of incident to avoid hassles and you may need to fight your corner. Similar happened to my wife and the car overtaking her caught her on the rear wheel. They tried to sue for damages and we got a solicitors letter. On further investigation the driver worked for solicitors and was not a solicitor and had falsified the letter. I believe the driver in question had to go look for a new job! Hope yours ends okay.

 

[Turbo]

I drive a wagon fitted with a Carpa 120, check youtube for demo. It has 2 lenses with the option of switching off the interior view. It can be fitted permanently or to an adhesive pad so can be moved between vehicles.It holds 24 hours of footage when fitted with a 32G HCSD card, and only records as the vehicle is in motion.
It has GPS location so time, date and your speed and any heavy braking, swerving can be stored .
Any parent should fit these to their kids cars. Hope this is of help to you, you may even negotiate a discount with your insurance provider that would help offset the cost of the camera.

 

[melowen]

i use witness driving app on my iphone , 99p well spent !

 

[WoodlandsCamper]

Is this what's meant by a crash camera?

 

[melowen]

sky grass sky grass sky grass .... repeat to end , you got to be careful cameras can incriminate you as well

 

[Sproket]

sky grass sky grass sky grass .... repeat to end , you got to be careful cameras can incriminate you as well

Agree

The more expensive ones can & will incriminate some drivers

But if you ain't doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about ... :lol:

 

[Sproket]

Is this what's meant by a crash camera?

I see that the police would like a word with him :dry:

Guilty as charged hmy:

 

[Raywood]

If the other driver denies your version then it is his word against yours and very risky to stand your ground. Many ntruck companies now fit them as they prove exactly what happened and should win your case if you are in the right as virtually impossible to challenge a film of the accident. They could become essential piece of equipment if cash for crash gets worse. One of those things that could be worth their weight in gold if you are involved in an accident.

 

[Sproket]

When i spoke to my insurance company they informed me that for me to get a independent witness was getting rarer due to people not wanting to get involved ...

Due to this happening a video camera seems the way to go.

But luckily for me one gentleman decided to stop and in there words his version corroborates my version ...

 

[otherclive]

That's good news, lets hope the insurers take notice of his statement.

 

[ProfJohnL]

We have witnessed a steady increase in our car insurance premiums, over the years, and that is partly due to the increased number of claims being made. What grieves me is when a patently innocent victim is told by the insurance company were going 50:50. So the victim is tarred with the same brush as the perpetrator. That is just so unfair.

In essence the the insurance companies can't be bothered to dig down into the details, so its easier and cheaper for them to just assume its 50:50. But if there is clear evidence of fault, they still sometimes need to kick started to get them working to protect their policy holder.

Video evidence from in car recorders is pretty compelling. I can foresee the time where cameras are fitted as standard along with other details rather like an aircrafts black box recorder.

If such technology can work to catch those antisocial people who fragrantly break the law and cause undue claims, then we might see improved driving and less collisions.

 

[Raywood]

We have witnessed a steady increase in our car insurance premiums, over the years, and that is partly due to the increased number of claims being made. What grieves me is when a patently innocent victim is told by the insurance company were going 50:50. So the victim is tarred with the same brush as the perpetrator. That is just so unfair.

In essence the the insurance companies can't be bothered to dig down into the details, so its easier and cheaper for them to just assume its 50:50. But if there is clear evidence of fault, they still sometimes need to kick started to get them working to protect their policy holder.

Video evidence from in car recorders is pretty compelling. I can foresee the time where cameras are fitted as standard along with other details rather like an aircrafts black box recorder.

If such technology can work to catch those antisocial people who fragrantly break the law and cause undue claims, then we might see improved driving and less collisions.

I have to say that insurers do not simply cave in to the 50/50 settlement idea. Having dealt with a huge number of claims the problem is that litigation is very expensive for the insurers and you simply have to take a pragmatic approach sometimes. I do accept that sometimes they are a bit too weak but in general all the risks are weighed up carefully before a settlement is made. Ther current legeal system is stacked very heavily against the defence, the insurer has to give a decision on liability very quickly sometimes impractically so or face heavy penalties on costs. The solicitors specialising in claims have found simple legitimate ways of running up their costs using legislation meant to reduce them.
When concerns are vouiced over there costs solicitors suggest that any reduction will reduce peoples right to justice but many changes could do this without pejudicing this.
There are also large numbers of false claims which are very difficult to identify. We have the highest rate of whiplash claims in Europe. The problem is in one case where I was involved which was very dubious we did make an offer to get rid but it was not taken and the case went to court where the claimant lost and got nothing. Our problem was it actualy cost us twice as much in costs to fight it than the settlement we offered would have and the claimant lost very little as he was on a no win no fee basis and had insured his liabilty for costsif he lost.

 

[Sproket]

Just a quick update:

The Truck has now come back from the repair shop with a bill of £2691.14p.....
The camera will now be ordered so that it can be fitted.

And:

The insurance company have informed me that they are looking into how it has happened & the investigating team will be in touch for a verbal account of how it happened from me & the independent witness, as it is only two mins from home I will suggest that they come with me to view the scene so that they can compare it to the photos that I have all ready sent them, I was also told that they will be doing a consistency report

 

[Sproket]

I have considered one of the cameras you mention, and if you go ahead I would be interested to hear how you get on fitting it.

The camera came just before we went to New York & this afternoon i have managed to get round to having a play with it. the playback on Youtube has unfortunatley degraded the image

The fitting of the mounting stem is with a self adhesive pad just to the passenger side of the mirror, I will take a photo of that tomorrow & upload it ... it then clips on & off quite easily, the only thing that will take a bit of time is running a hidden power supply up to it rather than running it from the cig lighter & having the cable dangling down the middle of the windscreen.

This is what i have just taken at the same roundabout that the accident happened, not a bad view to say that it is raining and getting dark, am well impressed with it and have now ordered one for the wifes car.

 

[woodsieboy]

That looks good,certainly makes me think it is worth getting one,does the camera stay permanently in the car or is it transferable like a sat nav,Also are you able to say where you bought yours?

 

[Sproket]

The small camera mount it stuck to the windscreen & the camera can be un-clipped quite easily to be removed, I should imagine that spare mounts will be available.

This is where I have bought them from, Oh! the power supply cable is 12v in with 5v output.

See the specifications for more details.

 

[crazyguider]

My oh uses one, and actually recorded an accident that happened in front of him, but he wasn't involved in. He's thought about mounting one on the rear of the van to keep an eye on sneaky police cars and to help with reversing!

 

[Sproket]

Can't think how you would make it work, anyway when you go to Stowford have a look at Sir Gagakev's reversing / rearview camera for possible ideas ....

 

[Gagakev]

Can't think how you would make it work, anyway when you go to Stowford have a look at Sir Gagakev's reversing / rearview camera for possible ideas ....

Now you've dropped me in it Sir Sprocket, they will all be watching me reverse onto the pitch

 

[Sproket]

Some of them would donate a small liquid fee to sit in the truck to watch the screen while you reverse & make it look so simple :lol: