Dogs and Owners & Pitch cut throughs

[BecknRob]

Afternoon all,

Just got back from a lovely weekend in Rendlesham, albeit a little wet on Sunday but never the less a successful trip this time with running water!!!

Here starts the moans..

We have a Kings Charles Spaniel and like any dog she likes to have an occasional yap, but she gets a telling off and then doesn't do it anymore until she either gets spooked by passers by and also another dog barking... this is where i start to moan.

There were a couple of dog owners who for some reason let there dogs just bark bark bark and bark.... the dog was tied to its stake in the ground as per the rules, but it just kept on barking, it was a large dog so had a very large bark, when the kids where playing footie it would bark and the owner was inside the van doing whatever, this lasted for about 15 minutes, which then started my dog off, which got a nice telling off as it was not her fault... even when the owners and friends where outside relaxing this dog would just bark and the owners would do nothing.. at this point my o/h could see my blood boiling and it got to the stage where we had to put our dog in the awning to stop her baking..

At one point the owner did tell his dog off because when i told my dog off i made a very loud comment about why my dog was barking...

After 3 days of this, i was to say a little ticked off by this, but low and behold yesterday another owner tied there dog to the tree whilst they packed there awning away and for the whole hour of this there dog just barked barked and barked... which then set our dog off..

My question is why the hell do dog owners just let there dogs bark bark and bark all the time and has anyone had a similar experience?

Also whilst i am moaning, we had so many people cut through our pitches being ours, the in-laws... also the nerve, we had 2 picnic benches on our pitch a family arrived and their 2 sons got out of the car ran through out pitch and decided to jump on the benches and walked across them... I was for the first time in my caravan life left utterly speechless...

We put up wind breaks positioned the cars but oh no, there was a 5ft gap between the front of my car and the side of the caravan and they would still use it as a cut thorough even on bikes, i had to hold my breath a couple of times when the youngers kids went through on bikes...

Apart from the 2 moans we have a lovely long weekend away.

Cheers

Rob.

 

[xtrailman]

Maybe a empty field some were is the answer?

I have no time for dogs anyway, had plenty of dogs and cats, when i was a kid, much prefer children.

Perhaps try a no dogs site, and take extra windbreaks, so you can totally surround your rent pitch?

just my thoughts, don't expect anyone to agree with me.

 

[cathymac]

Rob you hit the nail on the head. These are my two pet hates. Why can't dog owners teach their pet not to bark for no reason. It's not difficult and why do people not use the paths provided and think it OK to cut thru between pitches. But Hey I've learned there's no point getting all heat up about it I just pour another glass of wine and chill.

 

[Dustydog]

Hi Rob

Sometimes it is best to tell the warden, demand a refund, and go somewhere else. Why end up all stressed out? It's supposed to be a holiday.

Unfortunately there will always be to$$er$ about.

Hence why I am an advocate of CLs as much as CC sites.

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[LMH]

God,

I wonder if you encountered the same morons we did a couple of years ago on the Sandringham ccc site. They had two dogs tied to a tree and those dogs barked from morning to night. No one elses dogs barked, well maybe the odd yap. We had the misfortune to be pitched right next door to the sods. Anyway, thank god, on the morning of day three, they were asked to leave. Apparently, quite a few people had complained. They, like the morons you describe, sat outside drinking and still the dogs carried on barking. The only thing I can think of is when they are at home, the dogs are left unattended and the barking is never dealt with.

The most infuriating dog related thing that I ever saw when on a site locally was -. The nutters in the next van had a gsd. All over the site it stated 'pick up after your dog, keep dogs on leads'.

Well, this tatooed yob never put the dog on the lead, it just went where it wanted to and usually at speed. Long story but the first couple of times it ran up to me and my two dogs and hassled them, I shooed it away and asked the yob in future to put it on a lead like it says in the rules.

No such luck, anyway, again it came bounding up, my elder dog got it by the neck. I released it and promptly handed the bloody dog back to the yob who just stood there like a fool with an open mouth.

The next evening, we were sitting in the awning, dogs on the loose in the awning. The gsd quick as a flash comes into the awning and meets with our dogs. God, talk about all hands on deck. Obviously this gsd was now in my dogs territory. My husband grabbed the Stafford and I grabbed my older dog with one hand and the gsd with the other. My two dogs were now going nuts. After putting our two in their crates, I put the gsd on a lead and marched it round to the moron. I actually told him how irresponsible he was and how his dogs could have met with a whole number of accidents due to his incompetence. I also asked him if there was any reason he didn't pick up after his dog too.

All i got was the usual response of 'oh, he's only being friendly'.

Grrr.

Lisa

 

[Parksy]

It looks as though there is another dogs / windbreaks / kids rant about to break out.

Do me a favour and don't start insulting each other - at least until I've gone off on this weekends rally :0)

Seriously folks, if trouble starts on this topic with insults, personal abuse etc. it will be deleted without further explanation.

 

[LMH]

Has somebody said summat nasty parks?

Lisa

 

[xtrailman]

parksy

i was just starting to enjoy the thread!!

 

[thursdays child]

Rob what a shame about your bad experience.I do not understand how a few people cannot comprehend the need to have respect for others when in close proximity to one another.We are hyper about "The Bears" causing any sort of nuisance and we always try to give our neighbours privacy.Treat others as you like to be treated yourself if possible. Fortunately we have only had one bad experience when my 1.5 kilo Pom ended up with a bull terrier hanging off her tail and I had my arms scratched trying to keep her safe.Not even an apology either!Oh well that's "some folk" but thankfully not ALL.I hope the rest of your trips are trouble free now.

Thursdays Child

 

[MeonIan]

We had a similar experience over the weekend on a CC site, one group of 4 motorhome owners who thought the 'no ball games' rule didn't apply to their children and another caravanner who thought 'dogs must be on a lead' equally didn't apply.

Of interest to TC is the fact we also have a 'bear', a rescue Pomeranian who initially against my better judgement we took away in the caravan and he absolutely loves it and is mainly well behaved, sleeps on his bed on the floor next to ours. Being a small dog he tends to yap a little which is why we prefer to have all other dogs on leads around him and not just bounding up to him.

 

[Parksy]

Has somebody said summat nasty parks?

Lisa

Not Yet Lisa.................................But they will!

 

[Steve L]

Hi Rob.

First of all, sorry you had a bad experience. Also it is such bad experiences that lead people like Ray to have their strong oppinions.

We have in the past owned as many as 4 Labradors at a time and caravanned with them without upsetting others.

We currently have a chocolate 40Kg Labrador who is so well behaved that our site wardens took 8 weeks to realise we had a dog at all.

Its not the dog's fault that it behaves unacceptably, it's the untrained, irrespossable owners fault, and that goes the same for children's mis-conduct too.

If everyone trained their brood properly there would be no problems at all.

Both our children and dogs were trained/educated to behave in an appropriate manner at all times, but they are allowed to have fun too.

We've been full time caravanning for the last two years, living on holiday caravan parks amongst you tourist's, but you wouldn't know we exist. Just ask emmerson how caravan savi we are. He popped round to see us a while ago.

It's all about taking care to be unobtrusive and considerate to others.

 

[steffanos]

Anyone who cannot/does not see any reason to stop their dog barking continually, should be either:

a. Shot

b. Horse-whipped

c. Have their poor upbringing pointed out to them

d. Immersed up to their necks in pink Angel Delight

Have a nice day,

Steve.

 

[Parksy]

Steady on Steve

The pink Angel Delight idea is a bit strong.

We don't have a dog or small children but as caravanners we accept that we share the space with many people who.

If I wanted absolute peace and solitude I'd go to a monastery and don't forget that it will be very quiet and peaceful for all of us one day.

Personally I've got better things to worry about than dogs barking or children running across a piece of grass that I'm pitched up on. We're camping in a glorified field rather than staying in a 5 star hotel and a good degree of compromise is called for.

Dogs bark,it's something that they do. There are sites which don't allow dogs or children for those who allow these things to spoil their enjoyment and for those who really let these things get to them there are plenty of hotels.

 

[Philspadders]

In february atlooshill CC the owners of a dog left it barking most of the night.

Over many years of caravanning and camping i find dogs owners inconsiderate and often down right selfish. Sorry dog owners but that the way it is.

Barking, dog crap ... but never on their pitch, dogs running free.

I had one at the weekend and caught it peeing up my caravan so it got a bucket of cold water.

Now i dont blame the dogs, just the owners. it appears that some owners treat their dogs like kids ( come on sally,there's a good girl, come to beddy byes, etc) yet the paradox is that they complain about children.

 

[steffanos]

Parksy,

I've kept dogs for over 50 years....and I've never had one bark incessantly, I wouldn't tolerate it.. "Dogs bark,it's something that they do"....is it hell as like!

Surely that's like saying Kids wail, it's something that they do!....only if their badly brought up!

People with noisy dogs are usually either:

a. Childless

b. Have badly brought up kids (who wail!)

Regards,

Steve.

PS

If anyone has problems with their dogs (barking), or their kids (wailing), please feel free to send them down to me in west Wales for a week - they'll be fine* when you get them back.

*well mannered

 

[thursdays child]

We had a similar experience over the weekend on a CC site, one group of 4 motorhome owners who thought the 'no ball games' rule didn't apply to their children and another caravanner who thought 'dogs must be on a lead' equally didn't apply.

Of interest to TC is the fact we also have a 'bear', a rescue Pomeranian who initially against my better judgement we took away in the caravan and he absolutely loves it and is mainly well behaved, sleeps on his bed on the floor next to ours. Being a small dog he tends to yap a little which is why we prefer to have all other dogs on leads around him and not just bounding up to him.

MEON IAN,yes I was interested to hear about your "teddy bear with attitude".How good that you rescued him.I would love to do just that but HIMSELF says 2 is enough!!Just because they are titchy people think they are toys and are constantly wanting to pick them up especially toddlers and teenage girls.The girls think they would make good accessories and I have to discourage their boyfriends from buying one.My Bears are6 and 5 now Maddie is black and too small really at less than 2k and Ruby is orange and weighs in at 2.6k(much better)They love the van and have been touring in France and Spain.The awning is their play area and as long as the kiddies don't come tapping the sides or running round the van they are well behaved.We NEVER leave them unattended and I am sometimes worried when other dogs are left all day in their caravans ans start becoming distressed.All the owners see is how pleased their pet is to see them come back.

I have kept Poms for lots of years but I like ALL dogs and MOST people!!

We just all need to be in tune with others wants and needs.

No more boring dog talk xxxx

TC

 

[Parksy]

Steve

I can't help wondering whether your dogs are too scared to bark in case they end up being either shot, horsewhipped or buried up to their necks in pink Angel Delight.

Consideration for others is obviously a must when caravanning but what I'm trying to get across is that some tolerance is also necessary otherwise caravanning just becomes the excuse for one long moan.

The point is that when we use caravan sites (otherwise known as fields) we don't get to choose who else is allowed to use the same field as us who are all absolutely perfect.

 

[Dustydog]

How long can a dog bark before it gets a sore throat?

Maybe the solution is to encourage the barking until it gets laryngitis, ha ha.

Nothings perfect but I must say even with my two , I've never had barking problems on cls.

Cheers

Dustydog

 

[Lord Braykewynde]

Dogs bark just as kids scream at each other rather than talk.

Having two dogs, a breed that are known to be yappy, they sometimes bark if people with a dog walk by, at other times they don't bother. The point is it doesn't last long but if anything does annoy me it's dogs who continually bark and if mine did this it would be either the dogs or the caravan would have to go. Apart from not wanting to annoy others and spoil their peace the incessant yapping does my head in.

Allowances should be made when dogs are playing in the dog area, just as allowances should be made for kids playing.

BTW RAY, it's no good telling Robb 'to go to a no dog site, when he already said in his post he has a Kings Charles Spaniel.

 

[BecknRob]

Thanks everyone for airing your views!!! Like Cath said we just accepted it, chilled out and let it go over our heads...

I wouldn't have minded but the owners didn't appear to even tell the dog to be quiet! they just left it to constantly bark!!

On the issue of dogs pooing, i have trained my 7 year old Son when he takes the dog for a walk how to pick up the poo!!

I don't blame the kids for cutting through, i blame the parents, again my 7 year old went to cut through a couple of pitches to get to our van, i shouted to him to go around and he asked why and i said it was common practice, which he accepted that.

The site was lovely, the people friendly just the 2 dogs but then you get use to it, like you get used to the Wife moaning

Cheers

Rob.

 

[Pat_374304630]

I was just wondering when the subject of pitch cut through would be mentioned again. We don't cut through and our kids followed our example. I think it's just polite not to cut through. It might make things better if pitches were laid out like a lot of French ones with a hedge around each pitch.

 

[LMH]

Dogs have different types of barks for different types of reasons.

But, even as a dog owner myself, I can't stand the continuous bark, bark, bark, of a dog. On a caravan site (field), it should be stopped at once and SHOULD NOT be tolerated by other campers. It's downright ignorant of the owners to allow this to go unchecked.

Parksy, I don't think anyone should have to this, its anti social behaviour by humans.

Lisa

 

[BecknRob]

Do you reckon the Site owners should issue a dog an on site ASBO? How do you reckon that will go down.. lol...

Yep as previously advised i have 2 kids and a dog so a non-kids and dog site would be pretty much useless for me... in all my caravanning years which equates to 5, this is really the first time that this has been an issue and got underneath my skin, where i have felt like walking over and having a word with the owner...

I have had pitch cut through by an Adult Male whilst we are all sitting having a relaxing beer whilst the kids where playing and he just casually walked through, we all just laughed it off and carried on relaxing and enjoying the Sunshine..

Rob.

 

[xtrailman]

Perhaps the dogs had a bad case of reflux?

at any rate, isn't they a pill you can give them? maybe to change the bark to a series of grunts.

To stop the kids running through your territory, what about a couple of trip ropes, with tin cans tied to them, say 12" from the floor.